Fastest,Easiest,Cheapest way to transfer adf images between PC and Amiga(mostly 500) - Page 5

08 June 2013, 18:47

guys... if i have an external 3,5 disk drive for the Amiga 500 (with a parallell port), can I copy an ADF image from PC to the disk, and then insert the disk to the AMiga?

lesta_smsc · 08 June 2013, 19:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by znapperhead

guys... if i have an external 3,5 disk drive for the Amiga 500 (with a parallell port), can I copy an ADF image from PC to the disk, and then insert the disk to the AMiga?

No... as pc cannot manage Amiga disks via its floppy controller.

Jope · 09 June 2013, 11:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by znapperhead

Hi. with the null modem cable kit; would some sort of usb to parallel port adapter work?

No, as they do not look like real parallel ports to the software.

ikonsgr · 23 October 2013, 10:42

I just "discover" something that might be a cheap solution for all you "laptop lovers" that don't have a desktop pc,

and want to use the adf transfer kit:
These pcmcia to parallel port cards
They claim that this offers a TRUE parallel port and they are rather cheap too!

Does anyone know if this kind of adapter really offers a real bidirectional parallel port (you will probably know this, if you tried to connect any device other than common printers)

lesta_smsc · 24 October 2013, 00:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikonsgr

I just "discover" something that might be a cheap solution for all you "laptop lovers" that don't have a desktop pc,

and want to use the adf transfer kit:
These pcmcia to parallel port cards
They claim that this offers a TRUE parallel port and they are rather cheap too!

Does anyone know if this kind of adapter really offers a real bidirectional parallel port (you will probably know this, if you tried to connect any device other than common printers)

Wow they have certainly come down in price since I last checked. I know a friend who bought one and his worked bi directional but supported EPP/ECP too. These supposedly work as real parallel ports rather than adaptors like usb to parallel.

ikonsgr · 19 November 2013, 19:43

[UPDATE]

I just upload a new improved version of the boot disk.
I use the reorg utility to optimize the boot disk, so now you will only need ~7 sec to boot for PC->AMIGA transfers (previous was ~10 seconds) , and less than 20 sec (previous was ~25 sec) for AMIGA->PC transfers!

You can find the new boot disk here (i also put it inside the 32bit and 64bi versions of the adf transfer program folders, so anyone who downloads them will get the new boot disk inside "usefull adf images" sub folder)

prowler · 19 November 2013, 20:48

Your continued support is very much appreciated, ikonsgr!

ikonsgr · 18 April 2014, 18:15

[UPDATE]

I just upload a new alternative version of the boot disk, named "Boot_df1.adf". As you can probably figure out by the name, you can use this boot disk, to make all transfers using the second external drive, instead of the internal!
By doing so, you can leave permenantly the boot disk on internal drive, and change disks on external drive, so whenever a problem occurs you just reset amiga without needing to insert the boot disk again!

Also,i had some minor bugs fixed in both 32bit and 64bit versions of adf transfer program:
- Choosing a read only adf image to transfer, doesn't cause "sticking" on copying this same image. So no need to manually delete the "temp.adf" file anymore (the workaround used so far)
- No need to restart application to change i/o address of parallel port. This might also fix some issues regarding the configuration file of dosbox being "read only"

As always, you can find the new boot disk and versions of the program here.

prowler · 19 April 2014, 01:20

Once more, we are indebted to you, mate!

lesta_smsc · 20 April 2014, 00:12

Nice update! Thank you. Might it be a good idea to upload to ftp or zone?...

ikonsgr · 29 April 2014, 12:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by lesta_smsc

Nice update! Thank you. Might it be a good idea to upload to ftp or zone?...

Program is freeware. You are free to upload it where ever you want!

cabal · 20 October 2014, 16:18

I tried this on a A500 with only 512 kb and it doesnt work, it tries to copy the whole disk image to RAM and off course runs out of RAM.

It seems this statement is wrong then: "paradise can transfer disks even on an ancient AMIGA 1000 with 256k RAM , as it does not copy hole disk to ram but only 4 sectors at a time e.g. only 44kb ram needed." or maybe paradise can but the transfer program provided uses different settings......

lesta_smsc · 27 October 2014, 02:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabal

I tried this on a A500 with only 512 kb and it doesnt work, it tries to copy the whole disk image to RAM and off course runs out of RAM.

It seems this statement is wrong then: "paradise can transfer disks even on an ancient AMIGA 1000 with 256k RAM , as it does not copy hole disk to ram but only 4 sectors at a time e.g. only 44kb ram needed." or maybe paradise can but the transfer program provided uses different settings......

I know there were some different versions utilising different amounts of RAM?...

cabal · 03 November 2014, 14:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by lesta_smsc

I know there were some different versions utilising different amounts of RAM?...

Different versions of what?

ikonsgr · 25 January 2015, 00:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabal

I tried this on a A500 with only 512 kb and it doesnt work, it tries to copy the whole disk image to RAM and off course runs out of RAM.

It seems this statement is wrong then: "paradise can transfer disks even on an ancient AMIGA 1000 with 256k RAM , as it does not copy hole disk to ram but only 4 sectors at a time e.g. only 44kb ram needed." or maybe paradise can but the transfer program provided uses different settings......

I can assure you that the program runs perfectly on a 512k amiga because that's how i'm using it myself!

Moreover,i had some feedback from a couple of guys that tried it even on amiga 1000 with only 256k ram and it still worked fine!

Now about your problem, try to disable/remove any addon hardware you might have or any external drives. Sometimes paradise utility is confused by these and tries to copy adf image to ram instead of disk.

Zippy Zapp · 28 January 2015, 17:33

Hey just saw this thread, this is great, thank you!

Does it matter what mode the Parallel port is set to on the PC in the BIOS? Most older PCs from 95/98 era have settings for EPP and ECP or plain old parallel port (Compatibility). I would assume standard setting but I do know that EPP and ECP modes are faster transfer speeds..

Thanks for all the work! I have plenty of old printer cables lying around that I could modify for this.

ikonsgr · 01 February 2015, 14:37

According to the manual of paradise utility,it can work even with a standard SPP port.

lesta_smsc · 02 March 2015, 01:43

Would a standard laplink/null modem parallel cable work for this as I have one of those lying around... don't want to try it in case I short-circuit the ports!

ikonsgr · 05 April 2015, 19:24

No it will not work, and don't try it! If you want, you can find directions of making the cable at the begin of this thread.

lesta_smsc · 06 April 2015, 00:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by ikonsgr

No it will not work, and don't try it! If you want, you can find directions of making the cable at the begin of this thread.

What about this? ... it says can be used for Amiga:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3103964807...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

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08 June 2013, 18:47	#81
znapperhead Posts: n/a	guys... if i have an external 3,5 disk drive for the Amiga 500 (with a parallell port), can I copy an ADF image from PC to the disk, and then insert the disk to the AMiga?

23 October 2013, 10:42	#84
ikonsgr Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Thessaloniki /Greece Posts: 81	I just "discover" something that might be a cheap solution for all you "laptop lovers" that don't have a desktop pc, and want to use the adf transfer kit: These pcmcia to parallel port cards They claim that this offers a TRUE parallel port and they are rather cheap too! Does anyone know if this kind of adapter really offers a real bidirectional parallel port (you will probably know this, if you tried to connect any device other than common printers)

19 November 2013, 19:43	#86
ikonsgr Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Thessaloniki /Greece Posts: 81	[UPDATE] I just upload a new improved version of the boot disk. I use the reorg utility to optimize the boot disk, so now you will only need ~7 sec to boot for PC->AMIGA transfers (previous was ~10 seconds) , and less than 20 sec (previous was ~25 sec) for AMIGA->PC transfers! You can find the new boot disk here (i also put it inside the 32bit and 64bi versions of the adf transfer program folders, so anyone who downloads them will get the new boot disk inside "usefull adf images" sub folder)

19 November 2013, 20:48	#87
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Your continued support is very much appreciated, ikonsgr!

18 April 2014, 18:15	#88
ikonsgr Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Thessaloniki /Greece Posts: 81	[UPDATE] I just upload a new alternative version of the boot disk, named "Boot_df1.adf". As you can probably figure out by the name, you can use this boot disk, to make all transfers using the second external drive, instead of the internal! By doing so, you can leave permenantly the boot disk on internal drive, and change disks on external drive, so whenever a problem occurs you just reset amiga without needing to insert the boot disk again! Also,i had some minor bugs fixed in both 32bit and 64bit versions of adf transfer program: - Choosing a read only adf image to transfer, doesn't cause "sticking" on copying this same image. So no need to manually delete the "temp.adf" file anymore (the workaround used so far) - No need to restart application to change i/o address of parallel port. This might also fix some issues regarding the configuration file of dosbox being "read only" As always, you can find the new boot disk and versions of the program here.

19 April 2014, 01:20	#89
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Once more, we are indebted to you, mate!

20 April 2014, 00:12	#90
lesta_smsc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 3,173	Nice update! Thank you. Might it be a good idea to upload to ftp or zone?...

20 October 2014, 16:18	#92
cabal Registered User Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: BA Posts: 12	I tried this on a A500 with only 512 kb and it doesnt work, it tries to copy the whole disk image to RAM and off course runs out of RAM. It seems this statement is wrong then: "paradise can transfer disks even on an ancient AMIGA 1000 with 256k RAM , as it does not copy hole disk to ram but only 4 sectors at a time e.g. only 44kb ram needed." or maybe paradise can but the transfer program provided uses different settings......

28 January 2015, 17:33	#96
Zippy Zapp Registered User Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: CA/USA Posts: 346	Hey just saw this thread, this is great, thank you! Does it matter what mode the Parallel port is set to on the PC in the BIOS? Most older PCs from 95/98 era have settings for EPP and ECP or plain old parallel port (Compatibility). I would assume standard setting but I do know that EPP and ECP modes are faster transfer speeds.. Thanks for all the work! I have plenty of old printer cables lying around that I could modify for this.

01 February 2015, 14:37	#97
ikonsgr Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Thessaloniki /Greece Posts: 81	According to the manual of paradise utility,it can work even with a standard SPP port.

02 March 2015, 01:43	#98
lesta_smsc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 3,173	Would a standard laplink/null modem parallel cable work for this as I have one of those lying around... don't want to try it in case I short-circuit the ports!

05 April 2015, 19:24	#99
ikonsgr Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Thessaloniki /Greece Posts: 81	No it will not work, and don't try it! If you want, you can find directions of making the cable at the begin of this thread.

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