Turrican III Source Code

[dlfrsilver]

Yes that would be cool !

[Exl]

What about Turrican and Turrican II!?

Seriously, this is great stuff. Even just the peek into how the game is built up in the inside.

Edit: Looking through I see there's a gametools directory. I'd love to see what that is when running.

[sl0ppy]

This makes me wonder. Out of all the games out there, you don't see the source code very often. I wonder how much of it is archived away somewhere, and how much of it gets completely lost. When Atari creates their Retro packs, I wonder if they are emulating the original ROMs, or actually using original source.

[alexh]

All the Thalion source code was archived on an Amiga 2000 at BlueByte and it was accidentally thrown away in 2002 shortly after Eric Simon left the company. I had been nagging at him to send it me for several years but not hard enough

[TCD]

That's a very sad story It would have been very interesting to have a look at the Ambermoon source.

[alexh]

There is a slim chance the author Jurie Horneman might have a copy but I doubt it.

[TCD]

Might be an idea to make a sourcecode preservation project. Maybe it could just be attached to the HOL info and hosted on a different webspace.

[Marcuz]

i tend to think that if not specifically released from the copyright holders, the sourcecodes would not see the light of day...

[TCD]

Originally Posted by marco pedrana

i tend to think that if not specifically released from the copyright holders, the sourcecodes would not see the light of day...

Yup, but if they release the sourcecode I think it would be a good idea to gather it at one place I agree that getting the sourcecode is much harder than just the game itself, but as the Turrican 3 example shows it's not impossible

[Marcuz]

heh.
coders.

what need there's ever for more than:

10 PRINT "fart."
20 END

RUN (for your lives)

you guys can preserve this, i've just released it.

[TCD]

The line with 20 is redundant , but we should preserve it as the shortest code in history

[dlfrsilver]

Since turrican 3 is code is well documented and mainly very clean, it would be nice
to let our god coders comment the code

Would be excellent, now no one can say, puh i can't make a 50 fps miggy game with all the fuck i want inside.

[Retro1234]

Originally Posted by alexh

As well has having Amiga Turrican III source code it also has MegaDrive Mr.Nutz source (which I think was used as the game engine?)

In HOL it says Peter Thierolf joined Neon Studios (the developers of Mr. Nutz: Hoppin' Mad) while coding Turrican 3. The Amiga Mr. Nutz graphics engine was then used as the basis for Amiga Turrican 3

Originally Posted by Exl

What about Turrican and Turrican II!?

Seriously, this is great stuff. Even just the peek into how the game is built up in the inside.

Edit: Looking through I see there's a gametools directory. I'd love to see what that is when running.

Anychance of an Editor

[dlfrsilver]

There is the editor in the archive, called Gametool

[madenph]

Originally Posted by marco pedrana

heh.
coders.

what need there's ever for more than:

10 PRINT "fart."
20 END

RUN (for your lives)

you guys can preserve this, i've just released it.

20 Do what??? Surely it's 20 GOTO 10

[Marcuz]

nah, i ponder my... words.

[Retro-Nerd]

Basic is hard to learn.

[mr.vince]

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

Wonderfull !!! My goodness !!! It's just so great !!!!Thanks to Factor 5 chappies !!!

The WRITE longtrack program is on Disk_3 in turrican III source code archive.

As much as I appreciate it being there to snoop around in what Peter programmed... this program alone will not help you at all. Factor 5 used modded NEC drives (made by Jens Schoenfeld, Aachen, Germany - he does currently produce and sell retro hardware like the Catweasel floppy controller) which did spin the disk at a lower speed. You will not be able to write longtracks with any standard Amiga. Looking from that perspective, the Turrican games where never actually "protected". They just over-formatted the discs so they would not need a second one, also causing pirate copies to come on two disks.

Chris

[john4p]

Originally Posted by mr.vince

Turrican games where never actually "protected".

In "Turrican" there is a little block in level 1-3 that doesn't appear in (some) cracked versions. You need to destroy this block in order to finish the level...

[mr.vince]

Originally Posted by john4p

In "Turrican" there is a little block in level 1-3 that doesn't appear in (some) cracked versions. You need to destroy this block in order to finish the level...

Ok, to be more precise let the wording be like this: They did not have any additional disk protection because the long tracks they used for storing data did also work as a copy protection. The missing block in level 1-3 seems to be code protection which was triggered by tampering with the loader or similar.

Chris