Sonnet 7200 PCI programming

[Hedeon]

It might be that the 4030 version is an unofficial version I patched myself. I can't remember. If so, 4029 should still work.

[Hedeon]

Originally Posted by jkdsteve

Nevermind, I answer my own question on releases....it'd be nice to be able to try an old sonnet powerpc.library version

Tried the newer one?

[grelbfarlk]

I'm getting the same thing with the asm or c versions of the library, hanging on the splash screen, no crash but it doesn't continue loading. I know I've run it in the last six months, so I'm going to guess a recent change...
Strange, running it with Snoopdos, it rebooted when failing trying to load PicassoIV.resource (?)
^^^^ Testing on the Tower with CSPPC and AHI6

Testing it on the Desktop with Warpengine and AHI4, it's running, both have Ragnarok and both are using asm version of library.

[jkdsteve]

Originally Posted by Hedeon

Tried the newer one?

I don't know whether the version I have is new/old c/asm...but it's the version I got from Aminet:

powerpc.library 17.13 (12/19/20)

It's an A4000D with WarpEngine '060/Mediator 4000Di/Voodoo3 3000 16Mb and erm 128Mb G4 450MHz (no idea on codenames, sorry) on a RAMIX carrier.

EDIT: I realized I have a 17.14b archive from on here somewhere but apart from it being much slower (debug?) the end result is the same.

[grelbfarlk]

@jkdsteve What version of AHI?

[jkdsteve]

Originally Posted by grelbfarlk

@jkdsteve What version of AHI?

Yeah, I realized that's important (somehow) = 4.18

I have every other game running pretty well now, just Shogo eluding me.

[jkdsteve]

Originally Posted by grelbfarlk

I'm getting the same thing with the asm or c versions of the library, hanging on the splash screen, no crash but it doesn't continue loading. I know I've run it in the last six months, so I'm going to guess a recent change...
Strange, running it with Snoopdos, it rebooted when failing trying to load PicassoIV.resource (?)
^^^^ Testing on the Tower with CSPPC and AHI6

Testing it on the Desktop with Warpengine and AHI4, it's running, both have Ragnarok and both are using asm version of library.

GOOD NEWS!!!! I crawled all over my system looking for issues and I *think* it was GFXADDR. I had set it to memspace 1 ($64000000) on my Voodoo but backtracking through "Good configuration" on the GitHub, I see it set to MemSpace 0 ($62000000)

In any case, I changed that and now it seems to work!!! I mean, it loaded up and crashed eventually but that's progress!!! <3

EDIT: The demo seems to be running fine but the real game locks up in more or less the same place when using the hardware renderer. I recall having issues with the first level when I had my CSPPC/CVPPC way back when.....if only I could get the license # from Hyperion to actually work for a re-install :-/

[Hedeon]

Originally Posted by jkdsteve

GOOD NEWS!!!! I crawled all over my system looking for issues and I *think* it was GFXADDR. I had set it to memspace 1 ($64000000) on my Voodoo but backtracking through "Good configuration" on the GitHub, I see it set to MemSpace 0 ($62000000)

In any case, I changed that and now it seems to work!!! I mean, it loaded up and crashed eventually but that's progress!!! <3

For fun and giggles, look at SnoopDOS and tell me if the ENV powerpc/gfxaddr is actually loaded

[jkdsteve]

Originally Posted by Hedeon

For fun and giggles, look at SnoopDOS and tell me if the ENV powerpc/gfxaddr is actually loaded

So many ENV variables, so little time....I don't even think that GFXADDR is necessary for A4000D mediator.

For fun I rename the various directories in ENVARC: to disable and see if it changes anything

Appreciate the help, so far this whole thing has basically come down to use configuration error.

EDIT: I got the game running now, without lockups, but all I did was *re-save* the Picasso variables using PVS, without changing anything ... LOL. On the plus side, it's pretty stable PPC setup now....I left QuakeII running timedemos overnight (accidentally) and it seems to stay up.

[Hedeon]

Originally Posted by jkdsteve

I don't even think that GFXADDR is necessary for A4000D mediator.

It is not even a mediator ENV but original WarpOS ENV. My library does not use it. But I was interested in if some programs/games use it directly (I would be amazed).

Glad to hear it works now.

[trixster]

@jkdsteve good perseverance, good result

[BULI]

Originally Posted by jkdsteve

I've tried the assign and it always insist the CD be inserted, despite that the contents are installed on the HDD :-/

Yes, Shogo always need CD disc in CD-ROM drive

[Hedeon]

Originally Posted by jbenam

Here it is:
<snip>

Can you make a minimal WB that I can test for you?

[jbenam]

Originally Posted by Hedeon

Can you make a minimal WB that I can test for you?

I think so, I'll try to do so ASAP.

BTW, recapping the A3640 didn't improve the situation. If you test my WB and confirm that it works on your system, then it's definitely an hardware fault either on the Mediator side or the M1 itself.

In that case I am willing to ship both of them out to any willing user with a working configuration to finally get to the bottom of this....

[Hedeon]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EMERSON-MOT...cAAOSwu~RemGms

[jbenam]

Originally Posted by Hedeon

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EMERSON-MOT...cAAOSwu~RemGms

Following it - not exactly enthused at the idea of spending another 250EUR (that is if I can get a PCI carrier for a decent price, as I do not own one currently) only to discover that it was the Mediator all along

Anyway, you've got a PM with something you can test

EDIT: Finished recapping the Mediator, still the same. Caps had started leaking, so I guess it wasn't all for nothing. My Mediator Mk I has now almost 20 years, I suppose it was logical to expect that caps started leaking. Anyway, nothing much changed.

[jkdsteve]

Originally Posted by Hedeon

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EMERSON-MOT...cAAOSwu~RemGms

There's also... https://www.ebay.com/itm/MOTOROLA-EM...9/143865661991

but I'm awaiting clarification from seller on what exactly he has before purchasing, it seems to be mis-labelled.

[Timtheloon]

Originally Posted by jkdsteve

There's also... https://www.ebay.com/itm/MOTOROLA-EM...9/143865661991



but I'm awaiting clarification from seller on what exactly he has before purchasing, it seems to be mis-labelled.

I seen this one too it looks like a Ragnarok it seems to have the same spec has one

Never seen one in the flesh sadly so I’m unsure

[grelbfarlk]

You can see it has external L2 cache chips which the Ragnarok's 750FX doesn't support, however if I'm reading it right, has 1MB total instead of 2MB L2 like the other Apocalypse boards we have used. Looks to be 256MB of RAM. So it could be a G3-750 or a G4. But it does have that rear Ethernet header for when Wrangler finishes the driver!

Also, based on what I can see of the PLL_CFG resistors, probably clocked at 450MHz, though I guess it could be 500MHz.
So either the description or the pictures are wrong.

[johnnybarker]

Anyone looked at these?

https://www.eaacepr.com/index.php?ma...ucts_id=681004

Looks a pretty dodgy website.