07 September 2015, 15:26 | #21 |
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My self made RP9 of 242 works fine in 2014 version. If anyone wants a copy let me know.
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07 September 2015, 15:44 | #22 |
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Hm?
I buyed AF too, Version 6, 2006 Premium and 2014 Plus over the years... I don't use the Frontend from AF, I install it, take what I need (ROM's, Workbench, Games, eg.) and deinstall it. Then I use it just with the latest WinUAE. With AF 2014 Plus ($30) you get (the green marked text was my reason for buying):
So, other people have more expensive hobbies (or they smoking ), I guess it's a very good deal and much cheaper and faster than a real AMIGA (without a real nostalgia feeling, but it's ok). |
07 September 2015, 17:24 | #23 |
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Because "genuine" isn't genuine, it's just giving money to the vultures that picked off little bits of Commodore's corpse.
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07 September 2015, 21:10 | #24 |
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You don't even have to install AF, it can be run from the DVD, so all the files have to be accessible. You just have to know where to look.
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- Nobody downloading a ROM off the internet is making any profit out of the ROM. If anything, they are preventing the scumbags at Cloanto from leeching off people any more. Good lad. - Nobody in the team that made Kickstart is getting any money from the purchase of such ROMs from Cloanto. So this in no way supports anything but Cloanto. How is paying for those ROMs a contribution to the community? Go buy something else, I dunno, like Viddi's videogame. Heck, send 10 bucks to Stingray, Galahad, Codetapper, Toni Wilen or whoever you want who actually DO contribute to the scene. - The only genuine ROMs I can think of are the ones firmly inserted in their sockets inside our Amigas. These are just copies. - Cloanto is aggressive in protecting a brand that they don't even own, fucking up Amiga fan projects. I still can't believe people defend them. They are clearly toxic to the scene and they only exist because people keep buying their vapid AF package! |
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I don't really care what you or anyone thinks, I like AF, that's why I bought it, so there |
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Also, "they" (Cloanto) didn't make it a crime. Really, it's a bit like saying GoG (Good Old Games) is terrible for selling old games that you can just DL from the internet for free.. Yes, anyone with google can DL for free the games that some people pay for on GoG.. But that doesn't make GoG evil. Some people use GoG. Some people DL the games for free... Not many people consider GoG evil... Considering the number of people who have "started" with AF and then moved on to more serious emulation, I'd say they have been helpful to the scene.. It's not like because Cloanto is out there, no one can find the ROMs.. They are so incredibly easy to find it's laughable... People don't need/use/like AF.. Fine.. Great.. Others do use/like them.. That's fine too... Really... It IS all good.. We, as a community, just have options... That's great!! No one is forcing anyone to buy AF.. Have a great day... desiv |
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I guess for people like you buying a record off iTunes is a praiseworthy action. Personally, I buy on Bandcamp straight from the artist. I hope you understand the difference. |
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07 September 2015, 22:33 | #30 |
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I think this thread needs to be closed
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07 September 2015, 22:55 | #31 |
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08 September 2015, 00:18 | #32 |
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For what it's worth, I think Cloanto offer a valuable service for those who appreciate them and want legal roms (who don't own an Amiga). Thanks for speaking up on behalf of those of us who agree with you and your points.
Unfortunately, it seems to just bring on toxic negativity. |
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I can't speak about the AF package as whole, but as far as the Kickstart ROMs and Workbench disk images go, I've always felt that Cloanto are just holding them for ransom.
If they had at least produced a Workbench "3.1.1" with known bugs and issues fixed, it wouldn't have looked so bad. Gulliver and Bloodwych have worked on these updated Workbench installations for a long time, why haven't Cloanto done the same? |
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It's the lack of innovation that bothers me about AF. As Akira mentioned, Cloanto only makes money on an ever unchanging set of romfiles. AF would be much more attractive if they maintained an amigaOS install which keeps improving each year. But that silly rp9 format just doesn't cut it for me. I fell for their product ages ago, but I never used their crippled roms thereafter.
On the other hand, it's all legit what they're pulling off and there's still a market for it, so who am I to blame Cloanto for anything |
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but the latest AF 2014 has Workbench 45.3, which is higher than the latest Official OS 3.5 BoingBag2 Update (44.5). |
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OK...
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I did make assumptions about you that were wrong.. Oopps.. My bad. ;-) Quote:
Mine's not passive aggressive.. I really do bid you a good day.. Seriously.. It doesn't bother me at all that we disagree here... It's not a big deal.. And disagreements can lead to healthy and more creative solutions.. Honestly... Have a good one.. desiv |
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