Battle Squadron question

john4p · 21 July 2008, 08:22

Is there an adf available of the PAL-version of this game?

Because the WHDLoad-version I have is PAL and MUCH better than the NTSC-version because the playfield is more than 25% larger! Battle Squadron PAL has a resolution of 320x256 whilst the NTSC-version has a resolution of a mere 320x200 (btw.: this also holds true for Arkanoid) - which is total crap for a vertical shooter.

So if one day this game should be voted I really would prefer the PAL-version. But not everyone knows how to use WHDLoad. That's why I want to know if there is a PAL-adf available? All ADFs of this game available on planetemu are the inferior NTSC-version.

P.S. Since I don't have an original Amiga anymore I can't make an adf of my legit purchased copy of this game.

musashi5150 · 21 July 2008, 08:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by john4p

I can't make an adf of my legit purchased copy of this game.

You couldn't anyway - it's pretty well protected

john4p · 21 July 2008, 09:11

Okay - so that might be the reason why I couldn't find an adf yet. Has the PAL-version ever been cracked?

alexh · 21 July 2008, 09:19

Slightly off topic, have you ever listened to the remixed title music by Reed or the official remake by original musicial Ron Klaren on Immortal 2 CD?

BS was the first game I had for my Amiga coming free in a bonus game bundle from the recently defunct Evesham Micro's in 1990.

john4p · 21 July 2008, 11:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

have you ever listened to the remixed title music by Reed or the official remake by original musicial Ron Klaren on Immortal 2 CD?

I have now. Sounds pretty good - but I still find the original better.

alexh · 21 July 2008, 11:58

The Immortal 2 CD version (arranged by the original composer Ron Klaren) grows on you. But you have to listen to it a few times.

It is a remix of all the tunes in the original (Title, in-game, Game-Over and Ending)

It is without a doubt my favourite track on that Album.

john4p · 21 July 2008, 12:19

Okay - the mp3 from that site you've linked is just a 30 seconds preview and thus couldn't grow that much on me.

Old Fool · 21 July 2008, 14:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by john4p

Is there an adf available of the PAL-version of this game?

It's really amazing that this game made back in 1989 has actually even better version for PAL systems. Incredible, because the NTSC version is technically one of the most impressive OCS games...

Due the great copy protection I only see in my dreams it on full screen mode on my A500!!

john4p · 21 July 2008, 15:16

Well, I just found an IPF of the PAL-version on some french site. It works flawlessly (like an ADF) with WinUAE after placing the file "CAPSImg.dll" from www.softpres.org in the WinUAE-folder.

But since it's a disk image of the original with copy protection intact I'm not allowed to post the link to that french site, am I? And in order to convert it to an ADF you would have to crack the protection.

But as I said you can just use it like an ADF if you copy the library "CAPSImg.dll" in the same folder as your winuae.exe.

Graham Humphrey · 21 July 2008, 18:49

To get around the whole "not everyone knows how to use WHDLoad" thing, we could use a similar method like we will for Lotus 2 if that ever gets voted for - stick it on an autobooting ADF (High-Density if necessary), that would probably do the trick. Not an ideal solution but it'll probably work.

Frog · 21 July 2008, 19:15

well i remember i get a working PAL version which can be copied using XCopy in Nibble Mode... AFAIR... but my memory is not what it was in the past...

Galahad/FLT · 21 July 2008, 19:51

Didn't Flashtro do a 1 disk PAL crack?

If not, i'm happy to do one.

Belgarath · 21 July 2008, 19:55

I thought the flashtro ver was PAL as well?

formater · 21 July 2008, 23:19

As say Galahad and Belgarath , the flashtro's version is PAL

Graham Humphrey · 21 July 2008, 23:24

So are there actually any gameplay differences between the PAL and NTSC versions then? Could be worth knowing should this get played in a future round (I know where John's double-voting power is going

)

Galahad/FLT · 21 July 2008, 23:37

Would imagine, unless the timings were done with the CIA chip, the NTSC version should be faster and on a smaller screen.

StrategyGamer · 22 July 2008, 01:44

The PAL version was given a score of 107% in a magazine review. Does this mean that the NTSC version rates a mere 100% ?

john4p · 22 July 2008, 08:24

Where can I find the Flashtro version? And who or what is "Flashtro" - is it a forum-user or a cracking group?

@Graham: I won't vote for that game if only the NTSC-version can be provided for all (unless the PAL-version's scores are identical and both versions would be allowed)...

@StrategyGamer: I guess I found the article. "Amiga Computing" gave it 109% to express how much better this game is than Xenon II which they previously considered perfect and gave 100%. They only tested the PAL-version of Battle Squadron.

Retro-Nerd · 22 July 2008, 11:12

The Flashtro PAL crack from Rob is in the Zone.

Old Fool · 22 July 2008, 13:05

Thanks for this information about PAL version from Flashtro. Info to John:

http://www.box.net/shared/bsenhfm04w#1:15405427

There you can find Flashtro cracks and trainers for several games. Sorry to say but due to some conflicts there are not coming new ones anymore

By the way: Everyone whose interested there is a rolling demo of BATTLE SQUADRON with more powerfull sound effects than the release version has. I guess there wasn't enough free memory to left those better sound effects... It's worth checking the demo version though!

21 July 2008, 09:11	#3
john4p Competition Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 4,756	Okay - so that might be the reason why I couldn't find an adf yet. Has the PAL-version ever been cracked? Last edited by john4p; 21 July 2008 at 09:19.

21 July 2008, 15:16	#9
john4p Competition Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 4,756	Well, I just found an IPF of the PAL-version on some french site. It works flawlessly (like an ADF) with WinUAE after placing the file "CAPSImg.dll" from www.softpres.org in the WinUAE-folder. But since it's a disk image of the original with copy protection intact I'm not allowed to post the link to that french site, am I? And in order to convert it to an ADF you would have to crack the protection. But as I said you can just use it like an ADF if you copy the library "CAPSImg.dll" in the same folder as your winuae.exe. Last edited by john4p; 21 July 2008 at 15:25.

22 July 2008, 08:24	#18
john4p Competition Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 4,756	Where can I find the Flashtro version? And who or what is "Flashtro" - is it a forum-user or a cracking group? @Graham: I won't vote for that game if only the NTSC-version can be provided for all (unless the PAL-version's scores are identical and both versions would be allowed)... @StrategyGamer: I guess I found the article. "Amiga Computing" gave it 109% to express how much better this game is than Xenon II which they previously considered perfect and gave 100%. They only tested the PAL-version of Battle Squadron. Last edited by john4p; 22 July 2008 at 09:42.

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21 July 2008, 08:22	#1
john4p Competition Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 4,756	Battle Squadron question Is there an adf available of the PAL-version of this game? Because the WHDLoad-version I have is PAL and MUCH better than the NTSC-version because the playfield is more than 25% larger! Battle Squadron PAL has a resolution of 320x256 whilst the NTSC-version has a resolution of a mere 320x200 (btw.: this also holds true for Arkanoid) - which is total crap for a vertical shooter. So if one day this game should be voted I really would prefer the PAL-version. But not everyone knows how to use WHDLoad. That's why I want to know if there is a PAL-adf available? All ADFs of this game available on planetemu are the inferior NTSC-version. P.S. Since I don't have an original Amiga anymore I can't make an adf of my legit purchased copy of this game. Last edited by john4p; 21 July 2008 at 08:37.

21 July 2008, 09:19	#4
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,430	Slightly off topic, have you ever listened to the remixed title music by Reed or the official remake by original musicial Ron Klaren on Immortal 2 CD? BS was the first game I had for my Amiga coming free in a bonus game bundle from the recently defunct Evesham Micro's in 1990.

21 July 2008, 11:58	#6
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,430	The Immortal 2 CD version (arranged by the original composer Ron Klaren) grows on you. But you have to listen to it a few times. It is a remix of all the tunes in the original (Title, in-game, Game-Over and Ending) It is without a doubt my favourite track on that Album.

21 July 2008, 12:19	#7
john4p Competition Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 4,756	Okay - the mp3 from that site you've linked is just a 30 seconds preview and thus couldn't grow that much on me.

21 July 2008, 18:49	#10
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	To get around the whole "not everyone knows how to use WHDLoad" thing, we could use a similar method like we will for Lotus 2 if that ever gets voted for - stick it on an autobooting ADF (High-Density if necessary), that would probably do the trick. Not an ideal solution but it'll probably work.

21 July 2008, 19:15	#11
Frog Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,385	well i remember i get a working PAL version which can be copied using XCopy in Nibble Mode... AFAIR... but my memory is not what it was in the past...

21 July 2008, 19:51	#12
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,014	Didn't Flashtro do a 1 disk PAL crack? If not, i'm happy to do one.

21 July 2008, 19:55	#13
Belgarath HOL Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,529	I thought the flashtro ver was PAL as well?

21 July 2008, 23:19	#14
formater Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Alicante/Spain Posts: 192	As say Galahad and Belgarath , the flashtro's version is PAL

21 July 2008, 23:24	#15
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	So are there actually any gameplay differences between the PAL and NTSC versions then? Could be worth knowing should this get played in a future round (I know where John's double-voting power is going )

21 July 2008, 23:37	#16
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,014	Would imagine, unless the timings were done with the CIA chip, the NTSC version should be faster and on a smaller screen.

22 July 2008, 01:44	#17
StrategyGamer Total Chaos AGA is fun! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: USA Posts: 873	The PAL version was given a score of 107% in a magazine review. Does this mean that the NTSC version rates a mere 100% ?

22 July 2008, 11:12	#19
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,453	The Flashtro PAL crack from Rob is in the Zone.

22 July 2008, 13:05	#20
Old Fool Zone Friend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tampere Age: 41 Posts: 600	Thanks for this information about PAL version from Flashtro. Info to John: http://www.box.net/shared/bsenhfm04w#1:15405427 There you can find Flashtro cracks and trainers for several games. Sorry to say but due to some conflicts there are not coming new ones anymore By the way: Everyone whose interested there is a rolling demo of BATTLE SQUADRON with more powerfull sound effects than the release version has. I guess there wasn't enough free memory to left those better sound effects... It's worth checking the demo version though!

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