Amiga Vs ST - Page 7

Photon · 03 July 2009, 22:31

Stop it now

Atari knocked out something quick and dirty with a purchased 5 years old OS with way worse specs for games and demos, ofc the games would not be as good

They did almost catch up with the STe 4.5 years later, and it still had GEM, so it sucked. (BIAS WARNING!) Both the Falcon and A1200 with accelerators were too expensive and too little too late.

The only ones that are still around were the ones that both made great hardware and an OS that is made for MMUs, ie. doesn't require reboot on program fail, ie. were as safe to use for serious work as Windows. (Big car ad asterisk and </sarcasm>, but what the hell.) They did their own fucking awesome CPU ffs

And yet software devs abandoned all of those within a matter of years, so they sort of died. Users switched from "the coolest games EV4R!" to "Cool games and something stable and with software that I can use for serious stuff too", I guess. Owning a computer happened to people of all ages and not just to the below-18.

The ST and Archimedes and the Amiga were great when they came, let's not forget that we bought them just to see the dazzling graphics

All but ST were innovations. These are the facts, gentlemen.

TCD · 03 July 2009, 22:41

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Originally Posted by Photon

They did their own fucking awesome CPU ffs

They did? Maybe I just don't get who 'they' are...

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Originally Posted by Photon

These are the facts, gentlemen.

At best you left out a pig piece of the picture

drHirudo · 04 July 2009, 22:27

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Originally Posted by asm1

Ah the Good Old Amiga Vs ST willy waving.... makes me feel like I'm 14 again. Glad I stayed out of it and bought an Acorn Archimedes which imho technically pissed on both in some areas, (although wasn't strictly a games machine) yes it lacked custom graphics/sound chips but had a whole lot going for it....

.

Sadly it never had the scale of software/hardware development that the Amiga/Atari had (and in many ways still have)

No I'm not trying to turn this into an Archimedes Vs Atari Vs Amiga mudslinging contest.

That said... I'm getting an Amiga soon

Atari Lynx are cool tho... I've still got mine

When I had an Amiga, I saw an advert in the Pixel Magazine about the Archimedes with a big font - Emulates XT.
I used this some months as a joke to a friend who was Amiga fan but did not have one. I said to him - "Why don't you buy an Archimedes - it is so good, that it can emulate XT?".
He said he better buy Amiga.
One year later I emulated XT on my Amiga500 with PCTask, so this was not Acorns advantage.
I used to have Atari MegaST with a hard drive and PC emulator card inside, which was given away to me. The ST part was so useful, that the previous owner partitioned it's 20MB hard drive to two 10 MB partitions - one ST and one MS-DOS partition. I tinkered with the ST for about two days then gave it away. The most annoying was that even if it had a monitor, the games were not displayed on it. Later after I gave it, I was told by an Atari user that I had to connect it to color TV to see the games and not only hear them. What a joke. Whatever, it was too late, but I do not feel sorry. Now I can play all the ST and STe games on my AmigaOne with Hatari at full speed, and even some Falcon software. Does E-UAE play on Atari hardware at full speed? Please exclude ARAnyM which is not Atari hardware.

Paul_s · 04 July 2009, 22:31

Dear Friends,

Last night I was lieing in bed yet again and thinking back to the days when I used to argue with users of the Atari ST whilst a beautiful imaginary woman was massaging my back.

Over the years my rage for such youthful antics ceased but in recent times I have found that my anger has returned and to this point I will be purchasing every Atari ST ever made and inserting them into the nearest waste disposal for recycling.

Your Amiga friend,

Paul_s now bankrupt.

s2325 · 09 July 2009, 09:31

http://atarilegend.com/games/games_d...p?game_id=5404 awesome title screen

TCD · 09 July 2009, 09:39

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Kokoi or An island Kingdom for a lolly

Interesting

s2325 · 09 July 2009, 12:27

http://atarilegend.com/games/games_d...p?game_id=6138 I'm not sure what is it on last screenshot

Rabbit80 · 09 July 2009, 12:57

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Originally Posted by s2325

http://atarilegend.com/games/games_d...p?game_id=6138 I'm not sure what is it on last screenshot

Its somebodys arse...

s2325 · 09 July 2009, 13:08

another interesting title screen http://atarilegend.com/games/games_d...p?game_id=5403
and hot kiss from donkey http://atarilegend.com/games/games_d...p?game_id=4303

Stefan Lindberg · 09 July 2009, 18:29

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Originally Posted by Photon

All but ST were innovations. These are the facts, gentlemen.

But all the innovative games comes from the ST

Si-Pie · 10 July 2009, 00:28

I cant believe this thread is still going lol. I started it off 8 months or so ago lol. Anyway I personally love all retro computing Amiga and ST alike. However I dont think anyone who knows anything about computer hardware would deny the Amiga was the better machine but this does not mean the ST was not a good machine as it really had its uses such as in music! Think they are both great machines even though my machine was the Amiga.

amigarobbo · 11 July 2009, 16:13

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Originally Posted by Anakirob

I think you mean "LCD Television", as the ST only does PAL and NTSC. And guess what... The Amiga can handle those screenmodes just fine, and VGA, and more.

No I meant what I said. My Falcon plugs straight into LG Flatron L1715s and works perfectly.

My Amiga 1200 does not.

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Originally Posted by Anakirob

Oh and a built-in speaker is a minus, not a plus!

Unless you what some Music blasting out at you at full volume when you fancy a game of Xenon II or something at 2 in the morning!

Sensi · 17 July 2009, 21:52

Bad joke?

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Much better

Ironclaw · 17 July 2009, 21:53

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Originally Posted by Sensi

Bad joke?

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Arghhh. horrible!!!

s2325 · 17 July 2009, 21:54

I like those farts at the start.

TCD · 17 July 2009, 21:55

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Originally Posted by Sensi

Bad joke?

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LOL, sounds like C64

Maybe even worse...

Ironclaw · 17 July 2009, 21:56

So, the Atari had the same sound chip as a C64???

Edit:

@TCD, yeah :P

Sensi · 17 July 2009, 21:58

Read that comment in the R-Type video, Amiga Lover=Fail

s2325 · 17 July 2009, 21:59

no, Atari ST have chip YM, similar to Amstrad CPC YM...

Ironclaw · 17 July 2009, 21:59

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Originally Posted by Sensi

Read that comment in R-Type video, Amiga Lover=Fail

Yeah, read it already..... either he's joking or he's never heard the amiga version of the tune.

03 July 2009, 22:31	#121
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,602	Stop it now Atari knocked out something quick and dirty with a purchased 5 years old OS with way worse specs for games and demos, ofc the games would not be as good They did almost catch up with the STe 4.5 years later, and it still had GEM, so it sucked. (BIAS WARNING!) Both the Falcon and A1200 with accelerators were too expensive and too little too late. The only ones that are still around were the ones that both made great hardware and an OS that is made for MMUs, ie. doesn't require reboot on program fail, ie. were as safe to use for serious work as Windows. (Big car ad asterisk and </sarcasm>, but what the hell.) They did their own fucking awesome CPU ffs And yet software devs abandoned all of those within a matter of years, so they sort of died. Users switched from "the coolest games EV4R!" to "Cool games and something stable and with software that I can use for serious stuff too", I guess. Owning a computer happened to people of all ages and not just to the below-18. The ST and Archimedes and the Amiga were great when they came, let's not forget that we bought them just to see the dazzling graphics All but ST were innovations. These are the facts, gentlemen.

04 July 2009, 22:31	#124
Paul_s Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amigaville Age: 46 Posts: 3,334	Dear Friends, Last night I was lieing in bed yet again and thinking back to the days when I used to argue with users of the Atari ST whilst a beautiful imaginary woman was massaging my back. Over the years my rage for such youthful antics ceased but in recent times I have found that my anger has returned and to this point I will be purchasing every Atari ST ever made and inserting them into the nearest waste disposal for recycling. Your Amiga friend, Paul_s now bankrupt.

09 July 2009, 09:31	#125
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	http://atarilegend.com/games/games_d...p?game_id=5404 awesome title screen

09 July 2009, 12:27	#127
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	http://atarilegend.com/games/games_d...p?game_id=6138 I'm not sure what is it on last screenshot

09 July 2009, 13:08	#129
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	another interesting title screen http://atarilegend.com/games/games_d...p?game_id=5403 and hot kiss from donkey http://atarilegend.com/games/games_d...p?game_id=4303

10 July 2009, 00:28	#131
Si-Pie Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Newcastle Under Lyme/England Age: 46 Posts: 93	I cant believe this thread is still going lol. I started it off 8 months or so ago lol. Anyway I personally love all retro computing Amiga and ST alike. However I dont think anyone who knows anything about computer hardware would deny the Amiga was the better machine but this does not mean the ST was not a good machine as it really had its uses such as in music! Think they are both great machines even though my machine was the Amiga.

17 July 2009, 21:52	#133
Sensi Unregistered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 1,643	Bad joke? [ Show youtube player ] [ Show youtube player ] [ Show youtube player ] [ Show youtube player ] Much better

17 July 2009, 21:54	#135
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	I like those farts at the start.

17 July 2009, 21:56	#137
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 45 Posts: 3,313	So, the Atari had the same sound chip as a C64??? Edit: @TCD, yeah :P

17 July 2009, 21:58	#138
Sensi Unregistered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 1,643	Read that comment in the R-Type video, Amiga Lover=Fail

17 July 2009, 21:59	#139
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	no, Atari ST have chip YM, similar to Amstrad CPC YM...

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