Quake 3 on Classic - Page 11

Photon · 10 March 2018, 18:12

Well, the specs in the first post will give an idea what you mean by Classic. Fine as is. Carry on

Tigerskunk · 10 March 2018, 18:53

I was also under the impression that this runs only with PPC cards, which I wouldn‘t call ‚classic‘.

The first post of this thread should be a bit more informative then, maybe...

grelbfarlk · 10 March 2018, 20:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steril707

I was also under the impression that this runs only with PPC cards, which I wouldn‘t call ‚classic‘.

The first post of this thread should be a bit more informative then, maybe...

There is also a 68k version. It runs best on a Classic Commodore Amiga 1200/3000/4000 with a WarpOS capable card running OS 3.x. You could say this is like an audio card or RTG card with an AHI or Picasso96 capable drivers, you know all standards which have been on Classic AmigaOS 3.x for twenty years.

AMIGASYSTEM · 10 March 2018, 22:18

Tested the version 68k and Quake3 stops on level loading (see screenshot, one time i managed to start. The viewfinder is not aligned with the mouse and appears only on the first menu.

jack-3d · 11 March 2018, 00:03

Tested latest version, works fine, only Single Player Q3DM2 does not load and game stays stuck during the loading model of the opponent. But on 192 MB RAM on Sonnet this is on the RAM limit.

grelbfarlk · 11 March 2018, 01:30

Ah Jack, glad you got a Sonnet again, back in the saddle!

Cowcat · 11 March 2018, 08:47

Quote:

Tested the version 68k and Quake3 stops on level loading

Worked for Thellier -old versions should be ok for online playing, not "full single"- still I have to compile a newer beta for 68k.

Windowmode is "bad" in Q3 for both cpu - versions: Only fullscreen renders ok.

AMIGASYSTEM · 11 March 2018, 10:51

Thanks for the work done Cowcat, if they can please you, I've created Dual-PNG icons per drawer and can be executed in two sizes (I'm not a graphic)

Cowcat · 11 March 2018, 12:18

@AMIGASYSTEM

As always not sure about 68k version but works on local lan for me and my setup: On Morphos does same as old version -hangs on loading levels, some lights don't show- but they tell it worked on WinUAE so....

Now I delete the obsolete versions that people still download.

AMIGASYSTEM · 11 March 2018, 12:42

Nothing has changed in this new version stops on level loadin, maybe I'm wrong? (with EXE PC everything works regularly)

Cowcat · 11 March 2018, 13:20

That "awaiting connection" is familiar to me.

You mean EXE PC, a PC Q3 version running by side, as a server for 68k version to connect?

There are pictures posted here of 68k version working & I don't know what they did to run it with WinUAE (single player? multiplayer?)

Generally my ports are virtually identical even for different CPU's, but this particular game has something bad in it that triggers something. Thought that my fixes in sv_snapshot would remedy those problems for 68k, but as I mention in this thread "if someone can debug it...."

jack-3d · 11 March 2018, 16:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by grelbfarlk

Ah Jack, glad you got a Sonnet again, back in the saddle!

Its borrowed one, mine is still under repairs, but repair queue is long, so I am still on waiting list.

grelbfarlk · 12 March 2018, 03:07

I tried the "four" demo on the full game which did not work before. That I only get ~26FPS with vertex mode.

AMIGASYSTEM · 12 March 2018, 09:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowcat

There are pictures posted here of 68k version working & I don't know what they did to run it with WinUAE (single player? multiplayer?)

Yes but in mode "Single Player Skirmish" so it works well on my AFA_OS both in Fullscreen mode and Windows mode, see video

Quake3 68k FullScreen
[ Show youtube player ]

Quake3 68k WindowsMode
[ Show youtube player ]

Cowcat · 12 March 2018, 13:56

Quote:

I tried the "four" demo on the full game which did not work before.

The Demo FOUR.dm68, q3dm6( same map ) or q3dm4 ?

@AMIGASYSTEM

Finally some 68k videos

Interesting.
I cannot pass in my setup the "awating..." for single player: not full / not skirmish.
WinUAE allows playing skirmish, but not "full game".
Warpos no problem there.

I don't see sky/render problems in my setup (when playing on local lan) for 68k version, but on the videos they show (is it the video recording mode, or looks ok?)

AMIGASYSTEM · 12 March 2018, 17:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowcat

I don't see sky/render problems in my setup (when playing on local lan) for 68k version, but on the videos they show (is it the video recording mode, or looks ok?)

On WinUAE AFA OS graphic problem when you look at the sky, the audio is missing but I do not know if it's still supported.

Cowcat · 12 March 2018, 19:03

Quote:

the audio is missing

Depending on what you choose at game configuration & hardware limits (mostly memory) could work ok. Not enabled by default because of that "could".

write

Code:

seta s_initsound "1"

in q3config.cfg

Could be done with s_initsound 1 / snd_restart on console but screen goes bananas with the newer render mode & doesn't get written on config.

AMIGASYSTEM · 12 March 2018, 20:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowcat

write

Code:

seta s_initsound "1"

in q3config.cfg

On WinUAE AFA_OS / 060 JIT works well Effects and Musica

grelbfarlk · 17 March 2018, 02:13

The Demo FOUR.dm68, q3dm6 is the one one I mean.

I hope this is not asking too much but can you get joysticks working? I tried turning on in_joystick 1 but it doesn't seem to work. Actually I didn't try initializing lowlevel.library with something first.

Cego · 25 March 2018, 22:05

is it by default running on Warp3D? i just wondered because it looks like software rendered. When i change it in the setup from "default" to "voodoo" i'll get messed up graphics (both menu and ingame).

regarding sound, when i activate s_initsound 1, i'll get a grey screen and the game wont start at all. its the same when i do this via console.

10 March 2018, 22:18	#204
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Tested the version 68k and Quake3 stops on level loading (see screenshot, one time i managed to start. The viewfinder is not aligned with the mouse and appears only on the first menu. Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 06 April 2018 at 18:16.

11 March 2018, 10:51	#208
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Thanks for the work done Cowcat, if they can please you, I've created Dual-PNG icons per drawer and can be executed in two sizes (I'm not a graphic) Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 06 April 2018 at 18:15.

11 March 2018, 12:18	#209
Cowcat Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Mallorca Posts: 758	@AMIGASYSTEM As always not sure about 68k version but works on local lan for me and my setup: On Morphos does same as old version -hangs on loading levels, some lights don't show- but they tell it worked on WinUAE so.... Now I delete the obsolete versions that people still download. Last edited by Cowcat; 21 February 2019 at 15:21. Reason: Updated binary.

11 March 2018, 12:42	#210
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Nothing has changed in this new version stops on level loadin, maybe I'm wrong? (with EXE PC everything works regularly) Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 06 April 2018 at 18:16.

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10 March 2018, 18:12	#201
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,602	Well, the specs in the first post will give an idea what you mean by Classic. Fine as is. Carry on

10 March 2018, 18:53	#202
Tigerskunk Inviyya Dude! Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Amiga Island Posts: 2,770	I was also under the impression that this runs only with PPC cards, which I wouldn‘t call ‚classic‘. The first post of this thread should be a bit more informative then, maybe...

11 March 2018, 00:03	#205
jack-3d kLiker Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Brno / Czech Republic Posts: 371	Tested latest version, works fine, only Single Player Q3DM2 does not load and game stays stuck during the loading model of the opponent. But on 192 MB RAM on Sonnet this is on the RAM limit.

11 March 2018, 01:30	#206
grelbfarlk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,902	Ah Jack, glad you got a Sonnet again, back in the saddle!

11 March 2018, 13:20	#211
Cowcat Registered User Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Mallorca Posts: 758	That "awaiting connection" is familiar to me. You mean EXE PC, a PC Q3 version running by side, as a server for 68k version to connect? There are pictures posted here of 68k version working & I don't know what they did to run it with WinUAE (single player? multiplayer?) Generally my ports are virtually identical even for different CPU's, but this particular game has something bad in it that triggers something. Thought that my fixes in sv_snapshot would remedy those problems for 68k, but as I mention in this thread "if someone can debug it...."

12 March 2018, 03:07	#213
grelbfarlk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,902	I tried the "four" demo on the full game which did not work before. That I only get ~26FPS with vertex mode.

17 March 2018, 02:13	#219
grelbfarlk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,902	The Demo FOUR.dm68, q3dm6 is the one one I mean. I hope this is not asking too much but can you get joysticks working? I tried turning on in_joystick 1 but it doesn't seem to work. Actually I didn't try initializing lowlevel.library with something first.

25 March 2018, 22:05	#220
Cego Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Germany Posts: 163	is it by default running on Warp3D? i just wondered because it looks like software rendered. When i change it in the setup from "default" to "voodoo" i'll get messed up graphics (both menu and ingame). regarding sound, when i activate s_initsound 1, i'll get a grey screen and the game wont start at all. its the same when i do this via console.

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