Cracking Tutorials?

ufo · 28 January 2014, 12:03

Are there any Cracking Tutorials available apart from the one written on Carrier Command?

Also, what programs are required for cracking if using actual Amiga and alternatively if using PC?

Codetapper · 28 January 2014, 12:19

There's a bunch on flashtro.com, but most are rather dubious in terms of the "tutorial" requirement.

Rob's are basically all copylock cracks but are of the "type this, then this, then this, cracked" variety rather than teaching anything much. But there's some good ones there too.

In terms of tools to use, most people use either Resource to disassemble a program, or go the WinUAE debugger or Action Replay route.

ufo · 28 January 2014, 13:07

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Originally Posted by Codetapper

There's a bunch on flashtro.com, but most are rather dubious in terms of the "tutorial" requirement.

Thanks will take a look.

Any in particular that are good to start with?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Codetapper

In terms of tools to use, most people use either Resource to disassemble a program, or go the WinUAE debugger or Action Replay route.

If using an Amiga back in the mid/late 90's, what tools/utilities would have been used?

...and do these same tools work successfully through the emulators (WinUAE or WinFellow)?

Also, was/is an Action Replay always going to be the main method of breaking into an MFM type disk or was there any other (non-cartridge based) method of getting access to it?

WayneK · 28 January 2014, 16:13

I would start with the Strider tutorial by Codetapper, or the Golden Axe tutorial by Phantasm on Flashtro... you can probably skip almost all of the "single-track protection" section for the reason Codetapper already mentioned (they are more like a recipe of how to crack a particular game, rather than teaching you techniques/skills).

Several tutorials by Alpha-One (MFM section) and maybe even one or two by myself are also worth a read

Locating the original files isn't very difficult, I believe the Google can assist you there.

Action Replay was/is the 'default' tool of choice, noone can argue that it isn't the most efficient method to crack most games (disregarding WinUAE debugger, since that wasn't available back in the 90s and as such is never used for people looking to wallow in cracking nostalgia!). Other tools such as beermon (or any other type of monitor) were also popular - at the most basic level you need a disassembler and an assembler as the minimum...

If you're interested more in how it worked "back in the day", you can also read my little tutorial on Warpers @ Flashtro.

Good luck! You can always PM me here or on Flashtro if you have a question.

Galahad/FLT · 28 January 2014, 18:55

Jesus wept, that bloody Carrier Command tutorial just won't leave me alone!

ufo · 29 January 2014, 01:46

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Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Jesus wept, that bloody Carrier Command tutorial just won't leave me alone!

Galahad wept.

Although just seeing the name again reminded me, on some of the later Grapevine/LSD disks I think vaguely I remember the existence of another cracking tutorial and I think the cracker may have actually named themselves in it (i.e. same name they used in the cracktros).

If it wasn't Grapevine, was there another series of disks similar to those?

ufo · 29 January 2014, 20:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ze Emulatron

I got 1 game from their torrent last week because the game wasn't on the site I usually go to.

Is that the one located on their own website? If so seems completely dead for me

Galahad/FLT · 29 January 2014, 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by ufo

Galahad wept.

Although just seeing the name again reminded me, on some of the later Grapevine/LSD disks I think vaguely I remember the existence of another cracking tutorial and I think the cracker may have actually named themselves in it (i.e. same name they used in the cracktros).

If it wasn't Grapevine, was there another series of disks similar to those?

Stolen Data?

BippyM · 30 January 2014, 10:18

Requesting and posting information about the location of SPS files is a breach of the forum rules. Do not make me close this thread!

Thank you

redblade · 30 January 2014, 10:19

There is also a Elite tutorial which uses the ARC3 and a budokan tutorial.

I use amiga monitor by timo rossi as I didn't have a ARC on my real amiga.

there is a copylock tutorial on the Atari forum using MonST.

ufo · 30 January 2014, 11:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by bippym

Requesting and posting information about the location of SPS files is a breach of the forum rules. Do not make me close this thread!

Sorry didn't know, I have adjusted my comments appropriately as want this thread to remain open.

redblade · 30 January 2014, 11:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Jesus wept, that bloody Carrier Command tutorial just won't leave me alone!

How old were you when you released that t-file? What modem/hardware specs did you have back then? An a500 because of the ARC-III ?

ufo · 30 January 2014, 11:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by redblade

There is also a Elite tutorial which uses the ARC3...

Yep that sounds familiar, I think I read that one some time ago.

Quote:

Originally Posted by redblade

budokan tutorial

I remember this but stupidly didn't pay much attention to it as I thought the game was crap lol and wasn't interested wasting time looking at it much.

Do you have any links for either?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Stolen Data?

Don't think so? Though could be wrong. Think it was from a later time than yours.

Galahad/FLT · 30 January 2014, 14:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by redblade

How old were you when you released that t-file? What modem/hardware specs did you have back then? An a500 because of the ARC-III ?

17 or 18 I think when I wrote that, and yes, it would have been on my A500, A1200 came after I quite LSD.

ufo · 30 January 2014, 21:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by redblade

An a500 because of the ARC-III ?

I thought I recalled getting the ARIII working on an A1200...

Or was there a newer cart that came after the ARIII maybe?

TCD · 30 January 2014, 21:44

There was one just called 'Action Replay': http://www.bboah-works.de/bboahfaq/i...cat=65&id=2737

demoniac · 30 January 2014, 23:11

The software for Action Replay 1200 is really the same as HRTMon.

ufo · 31 January 2014, 02:43

On the original topic of 'tutorials', I remember some reading materials back in the day (maybe not quite tutorials, they could possibly have been manuals or books) about registers/addressing for Agnus, Paula and Denise (on the A500) and their differences.

Not sure if it was official printed Commodore material or not.

Sound familiar to anyone and any links for this or anything similar?

Also remember having some trouble finding the same kind of thing for Alice (A1200) - so any information on that would also be welcome.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCD

There was one just called 'Action Replay': http://www.bboah-works.de/bboahfaq/i...cat=65&id=2737

Hmmmm... the card for the 'Action Replay' that fits in to the Trapdoor sounds/looks familiar, but the controller with the button is not - maybe there was more than one version of it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

17 or 18 I think when I wrote that, and yes, it would have been on my A500

From the beginning, what setup were you using to crack on an A500 and how did it change over time? (ie. did you buy more RAM, hard drive etc.?)

redblade · 31 January 2014, 05:06

Here is the budokan one. Maybe there are others on the crackerjournal and grapevine disks. Did you just have the standard 512km ram expansion?

WayneK · 31 January 2014, 11:48

ufo:

Elowar's site has various docs, hardware reference manual being the most useful to you probably!

If you google for "aga.guide amiga" you will come across a plaintext listing of all the custom registers and what they do, updated to reflect AGA changes.

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28 January 2014, 12:19	#2
Codetapper 2 contact me: email only! Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Posts: 3,182	There's a bunch on flashtro.com, but most are rather dubious in terms of the "tutorial" requirement. Rob's are basically all copylock cracks but are of the "type this, then this, then this, cracked" variety rather than teaching anything much. But there's some good ones there too. In terms of tools to use, most people use either Resource to disassemble a program, or go the WinUAE debugger or Action Replay route.

28 January 2014, 16:13	#4
WayneK Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Somewhere secret Age: 50 Posts: 366	I would start with the Strider tutorial by Codetapper, or the Golden Axe tutorial by Phantasm on Flashtro... you can probably skip almost all of the "single-track protection" section for the reason Codetapper already mentioned (they are more like a recipe of how to crack a particular game, rather than teaching you techniques/skills). Several tutorials by Alpha-One (MFM section) and maybe even one or two by myself are also worth a read Locating the original files isn't very difficult, I believe the Google can assist you there. Action Replay was/is the 'default' tool of choice, noone can argue that it isn't the most efficient method to crack most games (disregarding WinUAE debugger, since that wasn't available back in the 90s and as such is never used for people looking to wallow in cracking nostalgia!). Other tools such as beermon (or any other type of monitor) were also popular - at the most basic level you need a disassembler and an assembler as the minimum... If you're interested more in how it worked "back in the day", you can also read my little tutorial on Warpers @ Flashtro. Good luck! You can always PM me here or on Flashtro if you have a question.

28 January 2014, 18:55	#5
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 9,004	Jesus wept, that bloody Carrier Command tutorial just won't leave me alone!

30 January 2014, 10:18	#9
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Requesting and posting information about the location of SPS files is a breach of the forum rules. Do not make me close this thread! Thank you

30 January 2014, 21:44	#16
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,613	There was one just called 'Action Replay': http://www.bboah-works.de/bboahfaq/i...cat=65&id=2737

30 January 2014, 23:11	#17
demoniac Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: - Posts: 1,696	The software for Action Replay 1200 is really the same as HRTMon.

31 January 2014, 11:48	#20
WayneK Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Somewhere secret Age: 50 Posts: 366	ufo: Elowar's site has various docs, hardware reference manual being the most useful to you probably! If you google for "aga.guide amiga" you will come across a plaintext listing of all the custom registers and what they do, updated to reflect AGA changes.

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