Xenon 2: Megablast music question

Predseda · 12 January 2014, 12:24

I know that Bomb the bass famous song from Xenon II should be originated in Assault on Precinct 13 movie soundtrack. Regarding this article in HOL:

Quote:

TRIVIA: The theme tune is David Whittaker's rendition of 'Megablast (Hip Hop on Precinct 13)(7'' Mix)' by BOMB THE BASS, taken from the album "Into the Dragon" © 1988 Rhythm King/BCM Records.
BOMB THE BASS's album version of "Megablast", in turn, is a remix of the soundtrack from the 1976 motion picture "Assault on Precinct 13", composed and directed by John Carpenter.

I watched mentioned movie yesterday and there is nothing that would remind me Xenon II theme. Except few tones in the intro tune - is that trivia is talking about?

Galahad/FLT · 12 January 2014, 12:34

Bomb the Bass took the main 'hook' from Assault on Precinct 13 and used that as the basis for their tune.

Back in the 80's, it was rare to remix an entire tune, sampling and taking many parts of different songs was what people were starting to do, Bomb the Bass, S-Express and a load of other British groups all doing it.

Problem was, lots of groups were sampling peoples stuff and not getting permission, so obviously Bomb the Bass's lawyers suggested that to release their record without acknowledging where it was inspired from would likely get them in trouble, even though other than the 'hook', theres very little left of the original John Carpenter tune to worry about.

TCD · 12 January 2014, 13:01

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That's the bass 'hook' that Bomb the Bass 'borrowed' and slightly modified. Another (in)famous example is Rick James' 'Superfreak' which was used in McHammer's 'Can't touch this' and later he got credited as a 'co-writer'.

FromWithin · 12 January 2014, 13:04

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Retro-Nerd · 12 January 2014, 16:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Bomb the Bass took the main 'hook' from Assault on Precinct 13 and used that as the basis for their tune.

Back in the 80's, it was rare to remix an entire tune, sampling and taking many parts of different songs was what people were starting to do, Bomb the Bass, S-Express and a load of other British groups all doing it.

Problem was, lots of groups were sampling peoples stuff and not getting permission, so obviously Bomb the Bass's lawyers suggested that to release their record without acknowledging where it was inspired from would likely get them in trouble, even though other than the 'hook', theres very little left of the original John Carpenter tune to worry about.

Actually Bomb the Bass stole a modified sample from The Splash Band. It's not their own remix from the original soundtrack.

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...ighlight=Xenon

BarryB · 12 January 2014, 21:38

Didn't Utah Saints also rip the guitar riff from Slayers 'War Ensemble' and use it on 'I want you' which was made into an intro for Burning Rubber?

Predseda · 12 January 2014, 22:39

OMG. Lyrics to Megablast :
Don't touch that dial!

"Track fifty nine, zero four thirty hours..."
(do filme Apocalipse Now)

There have been mixes and dance tracks
put together in the past
but none can outrun
or equal the power of Megablast

(vários samples de Buffalo Gals do Malcolm McLaren)

"Ah yeah! Check this out!"
(sampleado de Here We Go do Run D.M.C.)

"Is that him? Could I be right? Could that be Kid Dynamite?"
(sampleado de Jimmy Walker, do album 'Dyn-o-mite')

Thanks for turning it up, buy it for the...
hip hop, Kid Dynamite

(samples de Buffalo Gals do Malcolm McLaren)

All this scratching's making me itch
Hey, kick it, check it out,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah (x2)

"Say turn it up!"
(sampleado de Bring The Noise do Public Enemy)

Could anyone put together the exact lyrics of Xenon 2 remix? I can understand only few words.

s2325 · 12 January 2014, 22:47

Thanks, more complicated than in current pop hits.

Carlos Ace · 12 January 2014, 23:49

Dont forget this cool version:
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BarryB · 13 January 2014, 00:29

That sounds just like the music from the Atari ST version of Jens Wersteins Ice and Fire the Wizards, music around the 1:00 minute mark:

[ Show youtube player ]

Predseda · 13 January 2014, 09:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlos Ace

Dont forget this cool version:
[ Show youtube player ]

Strange. This is not in the movie, it must be some after remix.

Retro-Nerd · 13 January 2014, 15:29

This IS the version from which Bomb the Bass stole the sample. Though it's a slightly updated remix (New Scratch-Mix) from The Splash Bands "The End (Disco)".

http://www.discogs.com/John-Carpente.../release/84586

The original Carpenter Soundtrack Remix Album.

http://www.discogs.com/Splash-Band-T.../master/189446

Predseda · 13 January 2014, 16:47

Very complicated story then

Retro1234 · 13 January 2014, 17:03

Think about all the fuss made about timberland lol
Ps I dont like timberland.

AMIGASYSTEM · 09 October 2019, 01:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Bomb the Bass took the main 'hook' from Assault on Precinct 13 and used that as the basis for their tune.

Back in the 80's, it was rare to remix an entire tune, sampling and taking many parts of different songs was what people were starting to do, Bomb the Bass, S-Express and a load of other British groups all doing it.

Sorry I'm late, there's this one too.

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13 January 2014, 15:29	#12
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,436	This IS the version from which Bomb the Bass stole the sample. Though it's a slightly updated remix (New Scratch-Mix) from The Splash Bands "The End (Disco)". http://www.discogs.com/John-Carpente.../release/84586 The original Carpenter Soundtrack Remix Album. http://www.discogs.com/Splash-Band-T.../master/189446 Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 13 January 2014 at 15:59.

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12 January 2014, 12:34	#2
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	Bomb the Bass took the main 'hook' from Assault on Precinct 13 and used that as the basis for their tune. Back in the 80's, it was rare to remix an entire tune, sampling and taking many parts of different songs was what people were starting to do, Bomb the Bass, S-Express and a load of other British groups all doing it. Problem was, lots of groups were sampling peoples stuff and not getting permission, so obviously Bomb the Bass's lawyers suggested that to release their record without acknowledging where it was inspired from would likely get them in trouble, even though other than the 'hook', theres very little left of the original John Carpenter tune to worry about.

12 January 2014, 13:01	#3
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,525	[ Show youtube player ] That's the bass 'hook' that Bomb the Bass 'borrowed' and slightly modified. Another (in)famous example is Rick James' 'Superfreak' which was used in McHammer's 'Can't touch this' and later he got credited as a 'co-writer'.

12 January 2014, 13:04	#4
FromWithin Music lord Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Liverpool, UK Age: 50 Posts: 630	[ Show youtube player ] [ Show youtube player ]

12 January 2014, 21:38	#6
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	Didn't Utah Saints also rip the guitar riff from Slayers 'War Ensemble' and use it on 'I want you' which was made into an intro for Burning Rubber?

12 January 2014, 22:39	#7
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,539	OMG. Lyrics to Megablast : Don't touch that dial! "Track fifty nine, zero four thirty hours..." (do filme Apocalipse Now) There have been mixes and dance tracks put together in the past but none can outrun or equal the power of Megablast (vários samples de Buffalo Gals do Malcolm McLaren) "Ah yeah! Check this out!" (sampleado de Here We Go do Run D.M.C.) "Is that him? Could I be right? Could that be Kid Dynamite?" (sampleado de Jimmy Walker, do album 'Dyn-o-mite') Thanks for turning it up, buy it for the... hip hop, Kid Dynamite (samples de Buffalo Gals do Malcolm McLaren) All this scratching's making me itch Hey, kick it, check it out, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah (x2) "Say turn it up!" (sampleado de Bring The Noise do Public Enemy) Could anyone put together the exact lyrics of Xenon 2 remix? I can understand only few words.

12 January 2014, 22:47	#8
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	Thanks, more complicated than in current pop hits.

12 January 2014, 23:49	#9
Carlos Ace Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lusitania Posts: 455	Dont forget this cool version: [ Show youtube player ]

13 January 2014, 00:29	#10
BarryB Amigaholic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 4,676	That sounds just like the music from the Atari ST version of Jens Wersteins Ice and Fire the Wizards, music around the 1:00 minute mark: [ Show youtube player ]

13 January 2014, 16:47	#13
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,539	Very complicated story then

13 January 2014, 17:03	#14
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Think about all the fuss made about timberland lol Ps I dont like timberland.

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