|
25 February 2007, 12:40
|
#1 |
|
Posts: n/a
|
Why no 68030 emulation?
With Toni now adding many strange but fun (!) chipset/hardware configuration options to 1.4.0, why not add 68030 CPU support? Many Amigas had them in some weird situations it might be useful.
Next time I'll ask about 68060 - very little programs need it - but why not? |
|
25 February 2007, 12:51
|
#2 |
|
WinUAE developer
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland
Age: 49
Posts: 26,505
|
Sam answer as 68060. 68030 == 68020 + data cache. Emulation will be no slower or faster or less or more compatible. (the real difference is MMU in non-ec versions but there is no MMU emulation so..)
And I also don't want requests like: "Why isn't there 68030 emulation, only 68EC30?".... 68030 and 68060 will be added (without MMU, 68040/60 MMU may be there someday too but 68030 MMU won't, it is extremely complex) in future but they are still considered pointless options.. I implement fun and pointless options only when I feel like doing it, I don't care about your or anyone else's opinions 
|
|
|
25 February 2007, 12:57
|
#3 |
|
Posts: n/a
|
I can imagine you adding PowerPC support somewhere in 2012 after 68030 and 68060 are completed - just for pure fun coming out of emulating AmigaOS 4 under UAE ;-}. Shouldn't be extremely hard, there are sources for PPC emulation available (ie. PearPC).
Well, perhaps in WinUAE 2.0 there are going to be really many... (o) Classic Amiga ( ) Pegasos ( ) AmigaOne ...configuration options to choose from. Well, dreaming. ;-) |
|
25 February 2007, 13:05
|
#4 |
|
Thalion Webshrine
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Oxford
Posts: 14,337
|
Why dont you learn how to program? WinUAE is opensource. I am sure that Toni would appreciate a few other programmers working on it.
As for Pegasos and AmigaOne emulation... I would imagine that PearPC and QEmu may already support these platforms with little more than a few tweaks... They are generic PowerPC emulators. Get the boot roms & install disks from those systems and find out. Last edited by alexh; 25 February 2007 at 13:11. |
|
|
25 February 2007, 13:34
|
#5 |
|
WinUAE developer
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland
Age: 49
Posts: 26,505
|
WinUAE = classic Amiga emulator. PPC = NO. (at least as long as I work with it..)
|
|
|
|
25 February 2007, 13:36
|
#6 |
|
Posts: n/a
|
I can understand it, considering 68K were the best Amiga days. ;-}
|
|
25 February 2007, 14:21
|
#7 |
|
Global Moderator
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Derby, UK
Age: 48
Posts: 9,355
|
Can MMU features be directed directly to the winuae debugger? That could possibly be better than native mmu emulation anyway
|
|
|
|
25 February 2007, 15:53
|
#8 | |
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Norway
Age: 49
Posts: 246
|
Quote:
|
|
|
|
|
25 February 2007, 16:29
|
#9 |
|
WinUAE developer
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland
Age: 49
Posts: 26,505
|
There is no "real" advantage but it will still happen someday. But CPU (and FPU) emulation code needs to be more flexible to allow this, another reason why 68030/68060 CPU has very low priority.
|
|
|
|
25 February 2007, 19:23
|
#10 |
|
Posts: n/a
|
woh... 68060 emulation for a completed classic amiga emulation for my is the best than anothers cpus, and ppc... for the future of the amiga is best buy a pegasos/one and enjoy this news releases of amiga os (morphos/os4) and winuae only for 68x emulation (inc. 68060 emulation in a future
)
|
| Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
| Thread Tools | |
Similar Threads
|
||||
| Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
| 68030 Blow-Out | joeksterz | MarketPlace | 1 | 19 April 2011 18:33 |
| 68030/50 Speed | Schlachtwerk | support.WinUAE | 2 | 29 December 2010 13:20 |
| 68030 pipelines | meynaf | Coders. General | 30 | 15 February 2008 12:03 |
| Replacing a 68030 | unox | support.Hardware | 1 | 25 October 2007 12:43 |
| 68030 heatsinks | Shrub | support.Hardware | 6 | 15 August 2005 23:12 |
|
|
