Silkworm with CD audio tracks

jotd · 11 November 2018, 22:35

I didn't use the original arcade music because everyone says it sucks, and yes it's true it sucks. I wasn't able to download it as vgz or mp3 either.

So I used Raiden & Raiden II tunes. They sound great on this awesome game. But they can of course be changed.

Available on my dropbox

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vyd07m6pli..._CD32.zip?dl=0

Note that the jeep uses blue button to jump, not up.

I have briefly tested it on my first machine and it works. Sometimes it seems to "forget" to switch to boss music (random issue, also seen in emulation. Damn bug...) otherwise it runs great (but my CD motor has issues...)

DamienD · 11 November 2018, 22:50

I mean, I love the arcade Raiden series but in the Amiga version of Silkworm???

I really don't see the point of throwing together Amiga games with CD music from random games / discs; but maybe that's just me

Note: I do understand that you're clearly very excited about the new "feature" that both you and Toni have worked on though, but...

Marchie · 11 November 2018, 22:59

This general idea of getting CD audio with games (especially those that made you choose music or SFX) is seriously cool.

Yet more motivation to get my CD32 out of the closet and working...

Nice one jotd!

jotd · 11 November 2018, 23:11

@DamienD I understand what you're saying, and if you can come up with a better music, you can change it. In fact, everyone can change it to another music. As long as you respect the boss & classic track numbering. The hard work is playing music while game is playing, not playing Raiden music when game is playing.

I know that may look weird, but there's NO music at all... I wouldn't change a game music if it existed. I'm not going to do a lot of games this way, as in other projects I have, the music is the one from the game (or arcade version, or another FM towns, whatever, version)

jarre · 11 November 2018, 23:53

I agree with DamienD, why put music from a total different game, into silkworm....
I should say yes, if a game has no or different music than the arcade or console version, but messing up allkinda different games with whatever music make no sense to me..sorry..

For silkworm with no music at all, let a cool composer make some good new tracks for it, and use that instead of ripped music from another game, some of the composer here wil maybe have some great idea making something for this game

amigoun · 11 November 2018, 23:58

Great release, thanks jotd for all your efforts.

malko · 12 November 2018, 00:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarre

[...] For silkworm with no music at all, let a cool composer make some good new tracks for it, and use that instead of ripped music from another game, post of composer here wil maybe have some great idea making something for this game [...]

Like the idea.

jotd · 12 November 2018, 00:18

I don't see the problem here. Did I violate some implicit "no messing with Silkworm" here?

First if you don't want to play the game with audio tracks, noone forces you to.
Second, you can put ANY music you want to replace the Raiden tracks. See that as a stand-in for music tracks (as the in-game music programming is now done for this game). As long as you put track 2 & 3 as boss tracks and the rest as level tracks it will work.

If you want, I can publish a CD version with just me saying "boss track 1", "boss track 2", "level 1", ...

Contributions accepted. And you don't even need me to change the MP3s in an archive.

Amigajay · 12 November 2018, 00:26

Good job JOTD!

Also dont see the problem, people tend to moan for the point of moaning about something, as JOTD had previously said you can put any cd audio tracks in there, he just happened to use Raiden to test and upload, as soon as someone comes out with a guitar rift of Silkworm on Youtube you can swap it out and you dont have to wait because the work has been done.

To much pointless moaning about stupid things instead of encouraging people for their work....

NeoHippie2016 · 12 November 2018, 00:46

@jotd: thank you for this piece of Software...!

turrican3 · 12 November 2018, 03:31

What's the problem with the music ???
just change it !!! changing some mp3s versus all the work that jotd did, a work that so many times i heard was impossible !!!
well done jotd can't wait for the next one,i suppose it will fly and walk !!

ps: silkworm is really amazing with music

I will perhaps change some tracks but who cares.

malko · 12 November 2018, 11:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

I don't see the problem here. Did I violate some implicit "no messing with Silkworm" here?[...]

I speak only for myself, but it's not the point @jotd.
I mean, if someone has nice tunes that can fit Silkworm, it's a good idea to post it here for other people having a chance to enjoy them. Especially because this game has no in-game music. It's that kind of idea that I like : giving a chance to someone.

Your work is in now way questioned.

jotd · 12 November 2018, 12:09

No problem. Now someone should write 12 level tunes and one or two boss tunes... or find some tunes from an obscure game which fits.

jarre · 12 November 2018, 13:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

No problem. Now someone should write 12 level tunes and one or two boss tunes... or find some tunes from an obscure game which fits.

mmhhmm nes version only holds 8 tunes

[ Show youtube player ] Introduction
[ Show youtube player ] Wave Theme
[ Show youtube player ] Boss Battle
[ Show youtube player ] End of Wave Bonus
[ Show youtube player ] MHC2 Cutscene
[ Show youtube player ] Final Confrontation
[ Show youtube player ] Ending
[ Show youtube player ] Last Stage (Final Base)

seuden · 12 November 2018, 13:16

I think it's great. It's a hack, why have Simpsons in Streets of Rage? Because we can.

turrican3 · 12 November 2018, 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarre

mmhhmm nes version only holds 8 tunes

[ Show youtube player ] Introduction
[ Show youtube player ] Wave Theme
[ Show youtube player ] Boss Battle
[ Show youtube player ] End of Wave Bonus
[ Show youtube player ] MHC2 Cutscene
[ Show youtube player ] Final Confrontation
[ Show youtube player ] Ending
[ Show youtube player ] Last Stage (Final Base)

If someone can make hq remix of those songs it would be great !!

Too bad that nobody did it.

If somebody wants to try the cd32 version is waiting for you !!

ransom1122 · 12 November 2018, 13:50

No no no. Why pick a random game and slap its audio in silkworm?

If your going to implement any audio in a game then at least try and make the games match somehow first.

jarre · 12 November 2018, 14:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by turrican3

If someone can make hq remix of those songs it would be great !!

Too bad that nobody did it.

If somebody wants to try the cd32 version is waiting for you !!

and the arcade version didn't that one have ingame music..??

and was firepower 2000 on snes the bootleg..?? or a different game...can really check right now..

ransom1122 · 12 November 2018, 14:12

Arcade.. [ Show youtube player ]

Retroplay · 12 November 2018, 14:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarre

and was firepower 2000 on snes the bootleg..?? or a different game...can really check right now..

Firepower 2000 is the US version of Super SWIV.

11 November 2018, 22:35	#1
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,205	Silkworm with CD audio tracks I didn't use the original arcade music because everyone says it sucks, and yes it's true it sucks. I wasn't able to download it as vgz or mp3 either. So I used Raiden & Raiden II tunes. They sound great on this awesome game. But they can of course be changed. Available on my dropbox https://www.dropbox.com/s/vyd07m6pli..._CD32.zip?dl=0 Note that the jeep uses blue button to jump, not up. I have briefly tested it on my first machine and it works. Sometimes it seems to "forget" to switch to boss music (random issue, also seen in emulation. Damn bug...) otherwise it runs great (but my CD motor has issues...) Last edited by jotd; 11 November 2018 at 23:15.

11 November 2018, 23:53	#5
jarre Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Deventer - Netherlands Posts: 599	I agree with DamienD, why put music from a total different game, into silkworm.... I should say yes, if a game has no or different music than the arcade or console version, but messing up allkinda different games with whatever music make no sense to me..sorry.. For silkworm with no music at all, let a cool composer make some good new tracks for it, and use that instead of ripped music from another game, some of the composer here wil maybe have some great idea making something for this game Last edited by jarre; 12 November 2018 at 09:42.

12 November 2018, 03:31	#11
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	What's the problem with the music ??? just change it !!! changing some mp3s versus all the work that jotd did, a work that so many times i heard was impossible !!! well done jotd can't wait for the next one,i suppose it will fly and walk !! ps: silkworm is really amazing with music I will perhaps change some tracks but who cares. Last edited by turrican3; 12 November 2018 at 03:43.

12 November 2018, 12:09	#13
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,205	No problem. Now someone should write 12 level tunes and one or two boss tunes... or find some tunes from an obscure game which fits. Last edited by lilalurl; 12 November 2018 at 12:55. Reason: typo fixed

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11 November 2018, 22:50	#2
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	I mean, I love the arcade Raiden series but in the Amiga version of Silkworm??? I really don't see the point of throwing together Amiga games with CD music from random games / discs; but maybe that's just me Note: I do understand that you're clearly very excited about the new "feature" that both you and Toni have worked on though, but...

11 November 2018, 22:59	#3
Marchie Registered User Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Sydney / London Posts: 589	This general idea of getting CD audio with games (especially those that made you choose music or SFX) is seriously cool. Yet more motivation to get my CD32 out of the closet and working... Nice one jotd!

11 November 2018, 23:11	#4
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,205	@DamienD I understand what you're saying, and if you can come up with a better music, you can change it. In fact, everyone can change it to another music. As long as you respect the boss & classic track numbering. The hard work is playing music while game is playing, not playing Raiden music when game is playing. I know that may look weird, but there's NO music at all... I wouldn't change a game music if it existed. I'm not going to do a lot of games this way, as in other projects I have, the music is the one from the game (or arcade version, or another FM towns, whatever, version)

11 November 2018, 23:58	#6
amigoun Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Czech Rep Posts: 599	Great release, thanks jotd for all your efforts.

12 November 2018, 00:18	#8
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,205	I don't see the problem here. Did I violate some implicit "no messing with Silkworm" here? First if you don't want to play the game with audio tracks, noone forces you to. Second, you can put ANY music you want to replace the Raiden tracks. See that as a stand-in for music tracks (as the in-game music programming is now done for this game). As long as you put track 2 & 3 as boss tracks and the rest as level tracks it will work. If you want, I can publish a CD version with just me saying "boss track 1", "boss track 2", "level 1", ... Contributions accepted. And you don't even need me to change the MP3s in an archive.

12 November 2018, 00:26	#9
Amigajay Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: > Posts: 2,889	Good job JOTD! Also dont see the problem, people tend to moan for the point of moaning about something, as JOTD had previously said you can put any cd audio tracks in there, he just happened to use Raiden to test and upload, as soon as someone comes out with a guitar rift of Silkworm on Youtube you can swap it out and you dont have to wait because the work has been done. To much pointless moaning about stupid things instead of encouraging people for their work....

12 November 2018, 00:46	#10
NeoHippie2016 Freak Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Gladbeck Age: 47 Posts: 580	@jotd: thank you for this piece of Software...!

12 November 2018, 13:16	#15
seuden uber cool demi god Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kent/England Posts: 2,073	I think it's great. It's a hack, why have Simpsons in Streets of Rage? Because we can.

12 November 2018, 13:50	#17
ransom1122 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Omnicorp Age: 45 Posts: 5,820	No no no. Why pick a random game and slap its audio in silkworm? If your going to implement any audio in a game then at least try and make the games match somehow first.

12 November 2018, 14:12	#19
ransom1122 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Omnicorp Age: 45 Posts: 5,820	Arcade.. [ Show youtube player ]

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