Ah my FCKGOD at last !!! - Page 2

dlfrsilver · 18 September 2005, 18:56

I have seen the game in the collector home this saturday, he has the game in a mint
state.

Please give here in this thread the games to be ipfied please, i will make a list, thanks.

Denis

PS : You see Andreas, i saw games NOT listed in HOL, many of them are true gems, and in french ^^

dlfrsilver · 18 September 2005, 19:00

this collector has told me something very important, "Some games will never be on ebay
because they will never be sold to anyone, they STAY in private collections".

There is just a little exception, he allowed me access to any of his games whatever they are rare or not.

^_^

dlfrsilver · 19 September 2005, 11:40

the team that has done the shortgrey has nothing to do with ALCATRAZ andreas,

the team that has created the game has nothing to do with them. It's specified in the

manual of the game ^^

dlfrsilver · 19 September 2005, 15:31

Ah there is a game i have seen, it's stormlord, the game exist in a 2 disks version.

I will dump it in October.

fiath · 22 September 2005, 00:43

King quest 6 in german
monkey island 2 French
Darkseed in french
VideoKid
FirstSamurai (French?)
BAT in French

+ anything else not on the games list.

Shortgrey - might as well dump them. We can decide what to do with them later.

I'm addressing your PM now...

dlfrsilver · 22 September 2005, 09:02

VideoKid, Bat french,darkseed french and monkey island 2 FR are dumped.

I will dump soon Moonstone too, the game is on its way to my home ^^.
(BTW i have the PC version too). FirstSamurai is in english, but it's the version distributed in france.

I have some links to have sealed games ^^. first Samurai and Video were
sealed, i opened the plastic bags and dumped them. ^^

About Shortgrey, i have erased the virus from the disks 0,2,4
and replaced the errored files caused by the saddam hussein virus. I'll dump it like it is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiath

King quest 6 in german
monkey island 2 French
Darkseed in french
VideoKid
FirstSamurai (French?)
BAT in French

+ anything else not on the games list.

Shortgrey - might as well dump them. We can decide what to do with them later.

I'm addressing your PM now...

fiath · 22 September 2005, 13:19

Okay, great. Thanks for that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

About Shortgrey, i have erased the virus from the disks 0,2,4 and replaced the errored files caused by the saddam hussein virus. I'll dump it like it is.

Umm... I guess you mean you deleted it from a copy and not the original disks?

dlfrsilver · 22 September 2005, 14:01

I have cleaned my original, as the game is not correctly working if not cleaned and
errored files replaced. Now the game is fully working 100 % and virus free.

My version like the collector version is the Version 2. The version 1 has Ebola virus on it. sounds strange anyway.

fiath · 22 September 2005, 23:33

Eeek. Okay. Did you dump it before you did that? I'm not sure if I downloaded it or not. If you have not already, don't worry about dumping it.

dlfrsilver · 23 September 2005, 08:16

Well i have transfered on my girlfriend PC 280 megabytes of raw dumps !!!
I will try to process it this week....
This include all flight sim disks i have won on ebay, plus 3 versions of airbus A320 from
thalion,
Ishar 2 German,
cohort II,
Cannon fodder 2 FR,
Les portes du temps FR,
Explora II FR,
Monkey Island 2 FR,
Darkseed FR,
Utopia multi + datadisk
space crusade + the 2 data disk (4 disks in total)
A-train FR + a-train CS (english)
BAT in French,
Genesia FR
Air Commander + data disk from Impressions
Nicky Boom 2 (version not protected)
KGB In French, (unmodified as box never opened)
Plan 9 from outer space in french (unmodified as box never opened)
Beavers,
Video Kid,
First Samurai (unmodified as box never opened)
Harlequin (unmodified as box never opened)
Robozone,
Legend of faerghail US version 2.0e
Bismark French from PSS
Mickey et la machine à mot croisé French.
Nord et Sud french from impressions.
Dingo et le train express FR (goofy and the railway express)
Doctor Doom's revenge european version (got 2 copies on ebay)
Spirit of excalibur
History Line French
Dan Dare III

Fiath, i will dump moonstone tonight as it was posted to France on 20th. i should have it today or saturday.

About the shortgrey, yes i have dumped it before cleaning and replacing files errored
by the virus, and i have dumped my version after cleaning and replacing the bad files.

The game is untouched for the rest. The protection is still here ^^

andreas · 23 September 2005, 11:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

the team that has done the shortgrey has nothing to do with ALCATRAZ andreas,
the team that has created the game has nothing to do with them. It's specified in the manual of the game

WHAT??!

Sorry, but I MUST see a manual scan to believe this.

Pascal Arn is PGCS/ATZ, and did the graphics.
Grégoire Dini is Greg/ATZ, and did the sound.

Only Jean-Christophe Jacquet (JCJ) is NOT from Alcatraz, this is true.
But there must be Alcatraz members be involved, as there is also an advert of THIS game in their 5-disk Odyssey demo!!
I will even bother to dig this one out again to show you!

dlfrsilver · 23 September 2005, 12:23

Hehe it is straightly stated in the manual "the intro on disk 0 has been by created by
alcatraz", the demo team and programming team are clearly stated apart.
I think the manual was written by the programming team, and if Alcatraz was the whole team then they shoudn't have writing this in an unpersonal form. Like if the intro
was created in a totally seperate way.

@ Fiath : Just something to ask, what is the default name of the character in BAT when launched at first ?

The dump for french version is done on a copy for which the guy have saved on 2 external disks. save disk as disk 3 and B.o.b. program as disk 4 so how many chances do i have ?

andreas · 23 September 2005, 20:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

Hehe it is straightly stated in the manual "the intro on disk 0 has been by created by alcatraz", the demo team and programming team are clearly stated apart.

So could you please quote them all, then?
Thanks.

dlfrsilver · 23 September 2005, 20:54

ok no problemo andreas, here it is ^^
First accrosoft adress :
"Accrosoft editions, 52 rue d'émerainville. 77183 Croissy-Beaubourg Tél: 64.30.82.78"
Now the credits :
THE
SHORTGREY

Project manager
Jean Christophe Jacquet

Original Scenario
Jean Christophe Jacquet

Graphics
Pascal Arn

ATARI/AMIGA PROGRAMMING
Jean Christophe Jacquet

Original Scores
Grégoire Dini

VOCAL Synthesys/Fx
Jean christophe Jacquet

AMIGA INTRO
Alcatraz Group

DISTRIBUTION/PRODUCTION
ACCROSOFT EDITIONS

As you can see, the game is edited by a FRENCH editor as the adress states, and
Alcatraz is only credited for the intro. The rest is mainly the work of Jean christophe jacquet.

So do i have convinced you ?

By the way i'm currently doing transfer to do the upload on the SPS server. ahah ^^

the shortgrey with virus on is in the folder 2005-01-17,
in folder 2005-03-07 AV8B Harrier Assault is not processed.

upload of all the games has begun. hin hin hin hin ^^

i have scanned the moonstone main page manual ^^ as a proof of owning ^^

here is the manual scan

andreas · 24 September 2005, 01:51

First thing: PLEASE, COULD YOU EDIT YOUR POSTS instead of posting 6 (!) in a sequence? This is a huge pain to read. Thank you very much.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

So do i have convinced you ?

Not even remotely.
Jacquet did PROGRAMMING, but Pascal Arn aka PGCS/Alcatraz did graphics. Programming (i. e. assembler, C and/or AMOS (?) hacking) does not involve graphics, nor does it involve sound, hence PGCS' graphics were used in the Amiga version too.
So Alcatraz members were involved *both* in the intro *and* the production of the in-game stuff.

And Original music = Gregoire Dini, this is Greg from Alcatraz too. Music both in game for original hardware and for Amiga conversion.

No, close but no cigar, sorry.

dlfrsilver · 25 September 2005, 17:58

The shortgrey is an amos game ^^

fiath · 27 September 2005, 00:13

Great stuff!

BAT - which version do you mean, the one you uploaded or an IPF one?

dlfrsilver · 27 September 2005, 08:09

i mean for the english version, what is the default character name, it's to fully verify
if the french version i have uploaded is 100% correct.

I hope by the way that you will be able to check and tell me which dumps are good or
not.

thanks ^^

fiath · 27 September 2005, 14:05

I've added that to my list.

I can tell you which dumps are good, but that is likely to take far more time than I have at the moment. I'm still not even quite keeping up with our email.

I might write a tool which does some batch processing of uploaded dumps, calling the analyser on each one. This will help loads in doing what you ask. This should help dramatically with processing this stuff.

dlfrsilver · 27 September 2005, 14:45

yes please please it to automate the task ^^. It is a brand really good idea ^^.

Please check one step beyond and BAT in French thank you ^^

23 September 2005, 08:16	#30
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,413	Well i have transfered on my girlfriend PC 280 megabytes of raw dumps !!! I will try to process it this week.... This include all flight sim disks i have won on ebay, plus 3 versions of airbus A320 from thalion, Ishar 2 German, cohort II, Cannon fodder 2 FR, Les portes du temps FR, Explora II FR, Monkey Island 2 FR, Darkseed FR, Utopia multi + datadisk space crusade + the 2 data disk (4 disks in total) A-train FR + a-train CS (english) BAT in French, Genesia FR Air Commander + data disk from Impressions Nicky Boom 2 (version not protected) KGB In French, (unmodified as box never opened) Plan 9 from outer space in french (unmodified as box never opened) Beavers, Video Kid, First Samurai (unmodified as box never opened) Harlequin (unmodified as box never opened) Robozone, Legend of faerghail US version 2.0e Bismark French from PSS Mickey et la machine à mot croisé French. Nord et Sud french from impressions. Dingo et le train express FR (goofy and the railway express) Doctor Doom's revenge european version (got 2 copies on ebay) Spirit of excalibur History Line French Dan Dare III Fiath, i will dump moonstone tonight as it was posted to France on 20th. i should have it today or saturday. About the shortgrey, yes i have dumped it before cleaning and replacing files errored by the virus, and i have dumped my version after cleaning and replacing the bad files. The game is untouched for the rest. The protection is still here ^^ Last edited by dlfrsilver; 23 September 2005 at 11:49.

23 September 2005, 12:23	#32
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,413	Hehe it is straightly stated in the manual "the intro on disk 0 has been by created by alcatraz", the demo team and programming team are clearly stated apart. I think the manual was written by the programming team, and if Alcatraz was the whole team then they shoudn't have writing this in an unpersonal form. Like if the intro was created in a totally seperate way. @ Fiath : Just something to ask, what is the default name of the character in BAT when launched at first ? The dump for french version is done on a copy for which the guy have saved on 2 external disks. save disk as disk 3 and B.o.b. program as disk 4 so how many chances do i have ? Last edited by dlfrsilver; 25 September 2005 at 23:43.

23 September 2005, 20:54	#34
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,413	ok no problemo andreas, here it is ^^ First accrosoft adress : "Accrosoft editions, 52 rue d'émerainville. 77183 Croissy-Beaubourg Tél: 64.30.82.78" Now the credits : THE SHORTGREY Project manager Jean Christophe Jacquet Original Scenario Jean Christophe Jacquet Graphics Pascal Arn ATARI/AMIGA PROGRAMMING Jean Christophe Jacquet Original Scores Grégoire Dini VOCAL Synthesys/Fx Jean christophe Jacquet AMIGA INTRO Alcatraz Group DISTRIBUTION/PRODUCTION ACCROSOFT EDITIONS As you can see, the game is edited by a FRENCH editor as the adress states, and Alcatraz is only credited for the intro. The rest is mainly the work of Jean christophe jacquet. So do i have convinced you ? By the way i'm currently doing transfer to do the upload on the SPS server. ahah ^^ the shortgrey with virus on is in the folder 2005-01-17, in folder 2005-03-07 AV8B Harrier Assault is not processed. upload of all the games has begun. hin hin hin hin ^^ i have scanned the moonstone main page manual ^^ as a proof of owning ^^ here is the manual scan Attached Thumbnails Last edited by BippyM; 24 September 2005 at 16:59.

18 September 2005, 18:56	#21
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,413	I have seen the game in the collector home this saturday, he has the game in a mint state. Please give here in this thread the games to be ipfied please, i will make a list, thanks. Denis PS : You see Andreas, i saw games NOT listed in HOL, many of them are true gems, and in french ^^

18 September 2005, 19:00	#22
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,413	this collector has told me something very important, "Some games will never be on ebay because they will never be sold to anyone, they STAY in private collections". There is just a little exception, he allowed me access to any of his games whatever they are rare or not. ^_^

19 September 2005, 11:40	#23
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,413	the team that has done the shortgrey has nothing to do with ALCATRAZ andreas, the team that has created the game has nothing to do with them. It's specified in the manual of the game ^^

19 September 2005, 15:31	#24
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,413	Ah there is a game i have seen, it's stormlord, the game exist in a 2 disks version. I will dump it in October.

22 September 2005, 00:43	#25
fiath Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South East / UK Age: 46 Posts: 1,930	King quest 6 in german monkey island 2 French Darkseed in french VideoKid FirstSamurai (French?) BAT in French + anything else not on the games list. Shortgrey - might as well dump them. We can decide what to do with them later. I'm addressing your PM now...

22 September 2005, 14:01	#28
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,413	I have cleaned my original, as the game is not correctly working if not cleaned and errored files replaced. Now the game is fully working 100 % and virus free. My version like the collector version is the Version 2. The version 1 has Ebola virus on it. sounds strange anyway.

22 September 2005, 23:33	#29
fiath Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South East / UK Age: 46 Posts: 1,930	Eeek. Okay. Did you dump it before you did that? I'm not sure if I downloaded it or not. If you have not already, don't worry about dumping it.

25 September 2005, 17:58	#36
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,413	The shortgrey is an amos game ^^

27 September 2005, 00:13	#37
fiath Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South East / UK Age: 46 Posts: 1,930	Great stuff! BAT - which version do you mean, the one you uploaded or an IPF one?

27 September 2005, 08:09	#38
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,413	i mean for the english version, what is the default character name, it's to fully verify if the french version i have uploaded is 100% correct. I hope by the way that you will be able to check and tell me which dumps are good or not. thanks ^^

27 September 2005, 14:05	#39
fiath Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South East / UK Age: 46 Posts: 1,930	I've added that to my list. I can tell you which dumps are good, but that is likely to take far more time than I have at the moment. I'm still not even quite keeping up with our email. I might write a tool which does some batch processing of uploaded dumps, calling the analyser on each one. This will help loads in doing what you ask. This should help dramatically with processing this stuff.

27 September 2005, 14:45	#40
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,413	yes please please it to automate the task ^^. It is a brand really good idea ^^. Please check one step beyond and BAT in French thank you ^^

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