Messages in game code for crackers - Page 3

7-Zark-7 · 21 June 2002, 15:51

Although slightly off-topic,but still keeping in line with what was said ealier about the "Men-in suits not having a clue", I seem to recall reading about even legitimate programs having hidden messages in them.
For instance, in an interview in Zzap 64 with the developers of Armalyte on the C64, (Cyberdyne systems,I think?),they believed that a programmer who left their group,(& joined the publisher who published their game Thalamus),included a black text on black message in the tape loader along the lines of an "uncredited programmer" in the loader/game credits.

And I understand that the earlier Workbench 1-1.2, were full of various hotkey combo's containing the Amiga's creators's thoughts on Commodore's men-in-suits?

And finally for "modern day stuff",I recall getting one about a certain famous multibillionare called "Bill" & exactly what his employee's thought about him when you typed a certain sentence & thesaured for alternatives in earlier version's of MS Word....

Bernd · 29 June 2002, 23:19

TeenAgent A quite long one...

Teenagent - the story Naah, just some bullshit from me.
Heya! You're just checking the contents of protection
track for TEENAGENT polish version...I dunno yet if it
will be the same for both ECS and AGA version, time will
show The protection is nothing really special but I hope
it will eat a few hours (days?) of your precious time and
that you'll be pissed as hell of cracking it hahaha I know
the fun of cracking all too well... And I was frustrated
many times coz of not being able to remove some protection
(but finally I haven't found any that was too hard for me.
It's not boasting, just the software companies found out
already that there's no protection that is uncrackable, so
they aren't using any real hard ones...there was 1 game that
took me 1 week to do, american one, but it contained own
operating system inside, with multitasking etc. was a real
pain . So I'm trying to make it hard even if it's pointless.
Well what can I say, I will probably earn half nothing from
this game but, hell, without trying what can I expect?
I hope I'm not boring you too much, I just have to fill up
the track enough so it will be way longer than poor amiga
can write normally... Some fast greetz to some friends from
my last days in the scene: Samir, Skol, Groo & the rest of
Prestige - the best group I was ever in, Phil Douglas, Beef,
Professor & the rest of Thrill Kill Kult - my 1st group and
2nd best I was ever in. Also to members of all the amiga groups
except the well known idiots, ie. some members of Hoodlum,
Prodigy etc. etc. Have fun with this little protection, and this
little game altho I doubt Amiga will live much longer unless AT
will do some serious changes... Signed: Mok, the ex-cracker
and author of this protection.
PS. Sorry that adventure game such as this one have on-disk
protection instead of good ol' password check but it was
requested by the company It would be great fun to make
interpreter based doc check, it was always a challenge to
crack such games...but nope, simple track check is what
they requested. C ya - Mok

Twistin'Ghost · 30 June 2002, 01:18

Hehe, good stuff on that one! At least he acknowledged Phil Douglas. So which version of the game is this? I only know of the Polish version. Is this one German or English? You have this? Would really appreciate any upload of this game. Or are you the one that is missing a disk or two to have it complete?

Bernd · 30 June 2002, 15:26

PING Twistin'Ghost:

According to Don Adan (Wanted Team) the ECS version of TeenAgent was not yet cracked in 2000. AGA version had another protection and was cracked (that text of course belongs to the AGA version)... I only have that AGA version "somewhere"... Hope to find it soon. Feel free to send me a reminder later.

Galahad/FLT · 30 June 2002, 20:08

And so Mok should thank Phil........ he taught him everything he knew

Carlos Ace · 02 July 2002, 15:26

From the game Videokid (taken from a music):
* Amiga music player and jingles (c) Sean Conran 1991 * tel 0442 863939 * Here's a question for you. Are you reading this with the aid of an Action Replay cartridge? If the answer is YES then phone Gremlin and tell them that they need some bloody good cartridge protection routines. If the answer is NO then congratulations on a successful hack. *

Drake1009 · 02 July 2002, 15:44

Quote:

Originally posted by 7-Zark-7
And I understand that the earlier Workbench 1-1.2, were full of various hotkey combo's containing the Amiga's creators's thoughts on Commodore's men-in-suits?

And finally for "modern day stuff",I recall getting one about a certain famous multibillionare called "Bill" & exactly what his employee's thought about him when you typed a certain sentence & thesaured for alternatives in earlier version's of MS Word....

Those are usually called easter eggs. There were easter eggs in the later versions of Workbench as well. I believe one of them presented a message a bit like "We made the Amiga and Commodore fucked it up" or something like that.

Galahad/FLT · 02 July 2002, 20:29

The Amiga wizards bring this power to you

;-----

Brought to you by not a mere wizard, but the wizard extraordinaire: Dale Luck!

Carlos Ace · 13 July 2002, 23:20

From the game 3D Pool :
Maltese Joe plays 3D-Pool. Designed & Programmed by Orlando (lucky geezer, eh?) ...I know this should be a scrolling message, but, well, times are hard. Please don't pirate this game - my last three games bombed out and I'm on the breadline, paying off debts. "Millionaire whizz coder prangs Porsche" - HA! ... no chance of that! I don't even own a pushbike, let alone a car. This is my first 16-bit game: if you rip it off, it'll be my last. For what it's worth though, I hope you really enjoy the game - I've been working on it for a year now, and I still love it. Before I disappear, some quick 'thank you's.... Thanks to Colin Fuidge, and Joe 'Big Q' Bonar for all their support and encouragement during gestation (I s'pose)... Also, ta Gary Liddon for his 'specialist' knowledge (without him the world would be an emptier place). Generally, thanks to all at TelecomSoft (as was) - it's the end of an era, folks. Thanks to MicroProse - let's take it from here. Biggest thanks goes to a certain small furry animal. (((I'll see you later))) Many thanks to all the people who shelled out money for this - you're the people this is really for. Stop reading this! go back and play the game!! There is no cheat-mode!! * MESSAGE ENDS *

24 July 2002, 12:26

I left different ones in Jurassic Park slagging off the current groups at the time.. I think in the AGA version I was slagging of paradox and fairlight for bad non-working crack of the non AGA version! lol

Can't remember leaving that message in Suspicious Cargo tho.. must have been pissed!

Twistin'Ghost · 24 July 2002, 13:42

So, did Skid Row find all of the checksums? Were you able to complete their crack?

Carlos Ace · 26 August 2002, 01:47

Switchblade message:
HI GUYS ! U MUST HAVE BEEN HACKING ! U HAVE THE TALENT 2 GET THIS FAR, SO WHY NOT TRY WRITING A GAME SOMETIME ? ALL THE BEST, SIMES 24/10/89 ALL MY LOVE 4EVER 2 JAYNE.

26 August 2002, 02:16

I have no messages to add, except to say I really enjoyed this thread.

More please...

Carlos Ace · 01 September 2002, 22:09

Ok Jim, here´s another one, this time from the game Satan(from Creepsoft ltd. & DINAMIC software):
Hello, pirates. Please don't copy this game. It's my first Amiga game and I'd like to earn some money with it.
Yeh, right ...

01 September 2002, 22:27

Quote:

Originally posted by Carlos Ace
Ok Jim, here´s another one, this time from the game Satan(from Creepsoft ltd. & DINAMIC software):
Hello, pirates. Please don't copy this game. It's my first Amiga game and I'd like to earn some money with it.
Yeh, right ...

Crap game then was it ! ?

Carlos Ace · 08 September 2002, 02:16

This code is copyright. If it should appear in ANY program other than the Amiga version of Barbarian II, my lawyers will be informed.(C) Dave Chapman, 1989.
Well, i suppose this message its for coders rippers, but this guy is not very friendly ...

Antiriad · 08 September 2002, 23:07

Barbarian II - an equally shite game - no head chops dammit!!!

Bobbin · 10 September 2002, 10:29

Quote:

Originally posted by Uukrul
[B]As more and more quality companies leave the Amiga for the more profitable IBM, C64 and Nintendo markets

Profitable C64 market? Damn, these coders were on speed...

Carlos Ace · 19 September 2002, 02:00

Amiga Exile. 31 September 1991. Copyright © Peter JM Irvin, Jeremy C Smith, William F Reeve 1991. Copyright © Audiogenic 1991. All rights reserved. A lot of work went into this project. Please don't rob us of our livelihoods

---«<------------>»---
THE PATH TO COMPLETE AWARENESS
IS THROUGH AN OPEN MIND
---«<------------>»---

Codetapper · 02 October 2002, 06:06

Hello Cracker, if you crack this program without remove the intro, please send me a copy of it. -Christian Haller / Bahnhofstrasse 116 / CH-5726 Unterkulm / Switzerland -

30 June 2002, 20:08	#45
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,987	Phil Douglas And so Mok should thank Phil........ he taught him everything he knew

02 July 2002, 15:26	#46
Carlos Ace Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lusitania Posts: 455	Videokid´s game message From the game Videokid (taken from a music): * Amiga music player and jingles (c) Sean Conran 1991 * tel 0442 863939 * Here's a question for you. Are you reading this with the aid of an Action Replay cartridge? If the answer is YES then phone Gremlin and tell them that they need some bloody good cartridge protection routines. If the answer is NO then congratulations on a successful hack. * Last edited by Carlos Ace; 08 September 2002 at 04:06.

02 July 2002, 20:29	#48
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,987	Kickstart 1.2 The Amiga wizards bring this power to you ;----- Brought to you by not a mere wizard, but the wizard extraordinaire: Dale Luck!

13 July 2002, 23:20	#49
Carlos Ace Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lusitania Posts: 455	3D Pool message From the game 3D Pool : Maltese Joe plays 3D-Pool. Designed & Programmed by Orlando (lucky geezer, eh?) ...I know this should be a scrolling message, but, well, times are hard. Please don't pirate this game - my last three games bombed out and I'm on the breadline, paying off debts. "Millionaire whizz coder prangs Porsche" - HA! ... no chance of that! I don't even own a pushbike, let alone a car. This is my first 16-bit game: if you rip it off, it'll be my last. For what it's worth though, I hope you really enjoy the game - I've been working on it for a year now, and I still love it. Before I disappear, some quick 'thank you's.... Thanks to Colin Fuidge, and Joe 'Big Q' Bonar for all their support and encouragement during gestation (I s'pose)... Also, ta Gary Liddon for his 'specialist' knowledge (without him the world would be an emptier place). Generally, thanks to all at TelecomSoft (as was) - it's the end of an era, folks. Thanks to MicroProse - let's take it from here. Biggest thanks goes to a certain small furry animal. (((I'll see you later))) Many thanks to all the people who shelled out money for this - you're the people this is really for. Stop reading this! go back and play the game!! There is no cheat-mode!! * MESSAGE ENDS *

26 August 2002, 01:47	#52
Carlos Ace Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lusitania Posts: 455	Switchblade Switchblade message: HI GUYS ! U MUST HAVE BEEN HACKING ! U HAVE THE TALENT 2 GET THIS FAR, SO WHY NOT TRY WRITING A GAME SOMETIME ? ALL THE BEST, SIMES 24/10/89 ALL MY LOVE 4EVER 2 JAYNE.

21 June 2002, 15:51	#41
7-Zark-7 Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Brisbane/Australia Posts: 1,270	Although slightly off-topic,but still keeping in line with what was said ealier about the "Men-in suits not having a clue", I seem to recall reading about even legitimate programs having hidden messages in them. For instance, in an interview in Zzap 64 with the developers of Armalyte on the C64, (Cyberdyne systems,I think?),they believed that a programmer who left their group,(& joined the publisher who published their game Thalamus),included a black text on black message in the tape loader along the lines of an "uncredited programmer" in the loader/game credits. And I understand that the earlier Workbench 1-1.2, were full of various hotkey combo's containing the Amiga's creators's thoughts on Commodore's men-in-suits? And finally for "modern day stuff",I recall getting one about a certain famous multibillionare called "Bill" & exactly what his employee's thought about him when you typed a certain sentence & thesaured for alternatives in earlier version's of MS Word....

29 June 2002, 23:19	#42
Bernd Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 164	TeenAgent A quite long one... Teenagent - the story Naah, just some bullshit from me. Heya! You're just checking the contents of protection track for TEENAGENT polish version...I dunno yet if it will be the same for both ECS and AGA version, time will show The protection is nothing really special but I hope it will eat a few hours (days?) of your precious time and that you'll be pissed as hell of cracking it hahaha I know the fun of cracking all too well... And I was frustrated many times coz of not being able to remove some protection (but finally I haven't found any that was too hard for me. It's not boasting, just the software companies found out already that there's no protection that is uncrackable, so they aren't using any real hard ones...there was 1 game that took me 1 week to do, american one, but it contained own operating system inside, with multitasking etc. was a real pain . So I'm trying to make it hard even if it's pointless. Well what can I say, I will probably earn half nothing from this game but, hell, without trying what can I expect? I hope I'm not boring you too much, I just have to fill up the track enough so it will be way longer than poor amiga can write normally... Some fast greetz to some friends from my last days in the scene: Samir, Skol, Groo & the rest of Prestige - the best group I was ever in, Phil Douglas, Beef, Professor & the rest of Thrill Kill Kult - my 1st group and 2nd best I was ever in. Also to members of all the amiga groups except the well known idiots, ie. some members of Hoodlum, Prodigy etc. etc. Have fun with this little protection, and this little game altho I doubt Amiga will live much longer unless AT will do some serious changes... Signed: Mok, the ex-cracker and author of this protection. PS. Sorry that adventure game such as this one have on-disk protection instead of good ol' password check but it was requested by the company It would be great fun to make interpreter based doc check, it was always a challenge to crack such games...but nope, simple track check is what they requested. C ya - Mok

30 June 2002, 01:18	#43
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	Hehe, good stuff on that one! At least he acknowledged Phil Douglas. So which version of the game is this? I only know of the Polish version. Is this one German or English? You have this? Would really appreciate any upload of this game. Or are you the one that is missing a disk or two to have it complete?

30 June 2002, 15:26	#44
Bernd Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 164	PING Twistin'Ghost: According to Don Adan (Wanted Team) the ECS version of TeenAgent was not yet cracked in 2000. AGA version had another protection and was cracked (that text of course belongs to the AGA version)... I only have that AGA version "somewhere"... Hope to find it soon. Feel free to send me a reminder later.

24 July 2002, 12:26	#50
Mr.E Posts: n/a	I left different ones in Jurassic Park slagging off the current groups at the time.. I think in the AGA version I was slagging of paradox and fairlight for bad non-working crack of the non AGA version! lol Can't remember leaving that message in Suspicious Cargo tho.. must have been pissed!

24 July 2002, 13:42	#51
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	So, did Skid Row find all of the checksums? Were you able to complete their crack?

26 August 2002, 02:16	#53
Jim Posts: n/a	I have no messages to add, except to say I really enjoyed this thread. More please...

01 September 2002, 22:09	#54
Carlos Ace Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lusitania Posts: 455	Satan message Ok Jim, here´s another one, this time from the game Satan(from Creepsoft ltd. & DINAMIC software): Hello, pirates. Please don't copy this game. It's my first Amiga game and I'd like to earn some money with it. Yeh, right ...

08 September 2002, 02:16	#56
Carlos Ace Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lusitania Posts: 455	Palace´s Barbarian II This code is copyright. If it should appear in ANY program other than the Amiga version of Barbarian II, my lawyers will be informed.(C) Dave Chapman, 1989. Well, i suppose this message its for coders rippers, but this guy is not very friendly ...

08 September 2002, 23:07	#57
Antiriad The Sacred Armour Of Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sussex, UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,141	Barbarian II - an equally shite game - no head chops dammit!!!

19 September 2002, 02:00	#59
Carlos Ace Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lusitania Posts: 455	Exile Amiga Exile. 31 September 1991. Copyright © Peter JM Irvin, Jeremy C Smith, William F Reeve 1991. Copyright © Audiogenic 1991. All rights reserved. A lot of work went into this project. Please don't rob us of our livelihoods ---«<------------>»--- THE PATH TO COMPLETE AWARENESS IS THROUGH AN OPEN MIND ---«<------------>»---

02 October 2002, 06:06	#60
Codetapper 2 contact me: email only! Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Posts: 3,182	The Champ Hello Cracker, if you crack this program without remove the intro, please send me a copy of it. -Christian Haller / Bahnhofstrasse 116 / CH-5726 Unterkulm / Switzerland -

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