Compact Flash Questions

Dreedo · 05 March 2010, 19:47

Hi again,

well i have some questions about compact flash, over the last few days i've been trying to decide how to be able to play games on my Amiga 600.

I was wondering, how simple is the CF card method? Heres what i think the method is so far:

- Get a PCMCIA CF card reader
- Get a CF Card
- Shove CF card into PC (i have a CF card slot in my PC already) and copy .adf or whatever onto it.
- Shove CF card into the PCMCIA CF card reader on Amiga.
- Presumably you could now run the files, but obviously its not going to be this simple, it never is.

Any help is appreciated, i've had a great welcome on this forum.

Retro-Nerd · 05 March 2010, 19:56

You need disk image writing tools like TSGUI or ADF Blitzer, which are mostly on the PCMCIA adapter boot/driver disk (e.g. on eBay = ADF Transfer Kit) too.

retrogamer · 05 March 2010, 19:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreedo

Hi again,

well i have some questions about compact flash, over the last few days i've been trying to decide how to be able to play games on my Amiga 600.

I was wondering, how simple is the CF card method? Heres what i think the method is so far:

- Get a PCMCIA CF card reader
- Get a CF Card
- Shove CF card into PC (i have a CF card slot in my PC already) and copy .adf or whatever onto it.
- Shove CF card into the PCMCIA CF card reader on Amiga.
- Presumably you could now run the files, but obviously its not going to be this simple, it never is.

Any help is appreciated, i've had a great welcome on this forum.

Well, you need to install drivers first.

I own a PCMCIA CF card reader myself and it works very well to transefer files between my PC & A1200.

Dreedo · 05 March 2010, 20:00

ouch so i need a DD amiga floppy with all the drivers on and stuff?

Costs like £30 for one of those kits. :/

Retro-Nerd · 05 March 2010, 20:03

No really, if you check ebay worldwide. The Amiga boot disks are included too.

LINK

LINK 2

Dreedo · 05 March 2010, 20:14

Thanks.

So basically i get the kit, then i can play amiga games on my amiga off the CF card?

Retro-Nerd · 05 March 2010, 20:17

No, you have to write back the disk images to real Amiga disks via the above mentioned tools.

You need WHDLoad, if you want to play preinstalled games directly from a PCMCIA card or an IDE-CF adapter+CF card.

Dreedo · 05 March 2010, 20:36

ok thanks,

i looked uo WHDLoad, however im slightly confused, is it a program you need to install on an Amiga, or do you install it on a PC? The documentation doesnt seem to help me much on the installation part.

Retro-Nerd · 05 March 2010, 20:39

It's a hd-loader programme for Amiga games, so it's installed on your Amiga. Works even with 1000s of NDOS uninstallable games. Check the FAQ:

http://wiki.abime.net/games/whdload/index

Dreedo · 05 March 2010, 20:41

Ok so how does one transfer the WHDLoader, do i need to write it on a floppy disc? Or can it be copied onto a CF card, or is WHDLoader needed to use the CF card in the first place? lol

Retro-Nerd · 05 March 2010, 20:45

Read the complete FAQ carefully. The best is to install a Workbench, either on a IDE harddisk or via IDE-Compact Flash adapter+ CF card (e.g. 2/4GB).

amigakit.com · 05 March 2010, 20:48

We stock the EasyADF PCMCIA CF Transfer Kit

We have videos on the above link which show the process of using EasyADF

Dreedo · 05 March 2010, 20:54

IDE-Compact Flash adapter?

He he now im a little more confused.

IDE is something inside your Amiga isn't it?

So i have no idea what your talking about :/.

Ok so does that amigakit package have everything i need except for the CF card?

Retro-Nerd · 05 March 2010, 20:59

Your Amiga 600 has an IDE port, where you can plug harddrives/CD/DVD-Rom drives etc. An IDE to CF adapter allows you to use an ordinary Compact Flash card as a harddrive in your Amiga.

The PCMCIA adapter plus card is mainly a solution for data exchange from the PC to Amiga and back.

Dreedo · 05 March 2010, 21:06

Quote:

The PCMCIA adapter plus card is a solution for data exchange from the PC to Amiga and back.

Sorry if im being thick, but what does this mean, as far as i can see with the Amiga, you can plug anything you want into it, it just doesnt read anything without you doing loads of things to it.

So if i got that Amigakit transfer kit, i have everything i need except for the CF card, or will i need WHDLoad as well.

And i thought just getting a pcmcia cf adaptor and plugging a card into it would let the amiga read it as a storage device, instead of me having to take the amiga apart and plug in yet another adaptor.

Retro-Nerd · 05 March 2010, 21:09

Maybe you should tell us exactly what you want to do? If you intend to buy a PCMCIA adapter (plus a card) to put ADF images on it to play them directly on your Amiga, that doesn't work. You have to write them back to real disks.

The other solution, playing them directly from your Amiga (not from real Amiga disks), is to install a Workbench and WHDLoad on a harddrive/IDE-CF adapter+card.

amigakit.com · 05 March 2010, 21:11

You are welcome to give us a call on Monday and we can talk you through the options.

We offer a compatible 4GB card option with the EasyADF Compact Flash Transfer Kit (click configure product link)

Dreedo · 05 March 2010, 21:12

:/ i see, any way i can play .adf files on my Amiga?

Retro-Nerd · 05 March 2010, 21:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreedo

:/ i see, any way i can play .adf files on my Amiga?

No, not really.

Dreedo · 05 March 2010, 21:16

I see, so all the files on the zone and other sites are made for WinUAE ect.?

05 March 2010, 19:47	#1
Dreedo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: West Yorkshire, UK Age: 30 Posts: 657	Compact Flash Questions Hi again, well i have some questions about compact flash, over the last few days i've been trying to decide how to be able to play games on my Amiga 600. I was wondering, how simple is the CF card method? Heres what i think the method is so far: - Get a PCMCIA CF card reader - Get a CF Card - Shove CF card into PC (i have a CF card slot in my PC already) and copy .adf or whatever onto it. - Shove CF card into the PCMCIA CF card reader on Amiga. - Presumably you could now run the files, but obviously its not going to be this simple, it never is. Any help is appreciated, i've had a great welcome on this forum.

05 March 2010, 21:09	#16
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	Maybe you should tell us exactly what you want to do? If you intend to buy a PCMCIA adapter (plus a card) to put ADF images on it to play them directly on your Amiga, that doesn't work. You have to write them back to real disks. The other solution, playing them directly from your Amiga (not from real Amiga disks), is to install a Workbench and WHDLoad on a harddrive/IDE-CF adapter+card. Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 05 March 2010 at 21:15.

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05 March 2010, 19:56	#2
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	You need disk image writing tools like TSGUI or ADF Blitzer, which are mostly on the PCMCIA adapter boot/driver disk (e.g. on eBay = ADF Transfer Kit) too.

05 March 2010, 20:00	#4
Dreedo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: West Yorkshire, UK Age: 30 Posts: 657	ouch so i need a DD amiga floppy with all the drivers on and stuff? Costs like £30 for one of those kits. :/

05 March 2010, 20:03	#5
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	No really, if you check ebay worldwide. The Amiga boot disks are included too. LINK LINK 2

05 March 2010, 20:14	#6
Dreedo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: West Yorkshire, UK Age: 30 Posts: 657	Thanks. So basically i get the kit, then i can play amiga games on my amiga off the CF card?

05 March 2010, 20:17	#7
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	No, you have to write back the disk images to real Amiga disks via the above mentioned tools. You need WHDLoad, if you want to play preinstalled games directly from a PCMCIA card or an IDE-CF adapter+CF card.

05 March 2010, 20:36	#8
Dreedo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: West Yorkshire, UK Age: 30 Posts: 657	ok thanks, i looked uo WHDLoad, however im slightly confused, is it a program you need to install on an Amiga, or do you install it on a PC? The documentation doesnt seem to help me much on the installation part.

05 March 2010, 20:39	#9
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	It's a hd-loader programme for Amiga games, so it's installed on your Amiga. Works even with 1000s of NDOS uninstallable games. Check the FAQ: http://wiki.abime.net/games/whdload/index

05 March 2010, 20:41	#10
Dreedo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: West Yorkshire, UK Age: 30 Posts: 657	Ok so how does one transfer the WHDLoader, do i need to write it on a floppy disc? Or can it be copied onto a CF card, or is WHDLoader needed to use the CF card in the first place? lol

05 March 2010, 20:45	#11
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	Read the complete FAQ carefully. The best is to install a Workbench, either on a IDE harddisk or via IDE-Compact Flash adapter+ CF card (e.g. 2/4GB).

05 March 2010, 20:48	#12
amigakit.com Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: www.amigakit.com Posts: 2,015	We stock the EasyADF PCMCIA CF Transfer Kit We have videos on the above link which show the process of using EasyADF

05 March 2010, 20:54	#13
Dreedo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: West Yorkshire, UK Age: 30 Posts: 657	IDE-Compact Flash adapter? He he now im a little more confused. IDE is something inside your Amiga isn't it? So i have no idea what your talking about :/. Ok so does that amigakit package have everything i need except for the CF card?

05 March 2010, 20:59	#14
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	Your Amiga 600 has an IDE port, where you can plug harddrives/CD/DVD-Rom drives etc. An IDE to CF adapter allows you to use an ordinary Compact Flash card as a harddrive in your Amiga. The PCMCIA adapter plus card is mainly a solution for data exchange from the PC to Amiga and back.

05 March 2010, 21:11	#17
amigakit.com Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: www.amigakit.com Posts: 2,015	You are welcome to give us a call on Monday and we can talk you through the options. We offer a compatible 4GB card option with the EasyADF Compact Flash Transfer Kit (click configure product link)

05 March 2010, 21:12	#18
Dreedo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: West Yorkshire, UK Age: 30 Posts: 657	:/ i see, any way i can play .adf files on my Amiga?

05 March 2010, 21:16	#20
Dreedo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: West Yorkshire, UK Age: 30 Posts: 657	I see, so all the files on the zone and other sites are made for WinUAE ect.?

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