Change It (Bejeweled Clone)

IvanEBC · 09 January 2018, 04:23

Hi Folks

I haven't quite been able to nut out the way to get this game to work.

http://aminet.net/game/board/ChangeIt09_AOS3.lha

So far, i have simply downloaded, unpacked and tried running the "changeit" icon and i get the "Error: can't load main.iff file".

I've read through the .guide and read all about tooltypes etc.... especially where you need the tooltype on the icon to point to a directory
ie DIR=Pirates
That was the default one, there is a directory called Pirates, and i can see main.iff in there.

I have tried the other icons for both AGA and RTG (i should be able to run both) and checked the icon scripts that all appear to already be correct, but each and every attempt gives me the same error "can't load main.iff file"

Other items for requirements include png.datatype, yeah got that with OS3.9 and the main.iff is viewable in dopus, so i don't think i have an issue there.

A4000/410mb/128gb/VA2000/OS39+BB2

Snoopdos doesn't show any fails.....

daxb · 09 January 2018, 12:29

Make sure that all needed SnoopDos functions are activated. Normaly it should catch the fault. Use Multiview to check that main.iff (filetye is PNG. Naming is misleading.) will load/view correct. I've only V0.6 (works) and can't check V0.9. 0.9 mention "- changed the parameters syntax" that might cause your problem?

IvanEBC · 11 January 2018, 04:53

Didn't know which snoopdos functions were needed so i switched them ALL on and there isn't even a call for the main.iff happening.
You are the programmers i emailled had a similar solution - grab the iff, rename it to PNG, then load it up and actually save it as IFF....
Didn't work.

Moved the whole program to my Amiga 1200 with OS3.1 and i get the same error... i got a feeling i'm meant to do more than just unpack the archive and copy the folder and run it...... the instructions aren't perfectly clear to me but feel something else is missing, and i know Amiga programmers arne't good document writers, i used to be a good reader and got most things to work, but not so much these days.

gulliver · 11 January 2018, 09:36

All I can say is that I installed Changeit v0.9 a very long time ago, and to this day, it still works. I have just played a match to confirm it.

Maybe your system is somehow corrupted?

---Update---

To make life easier on you, I have archived my ChangeIt v0.9 game drawer in a zip file and uploaded it to The Zone!
So at least you have a verified working game setup.

Hope it works.

DamienD · 11 January 2018, 12:39

Hmmm, gave this a quick try on my ClassicWB Lite 3.1 .HDF.

Extracted the archive, launched and it ran first go without an issue.

daxb · 11 January 2018, 14:27

Installation should be like you did. Depack, copy it somewhere and start it. Are you sure you picked the right archive?

What happens if you start Multiview and pick the main.iff file? Does it display it correct? If yes your datatypes setting should be ok. Else there is your problem.

Here SnoopDos shows that ChangeIt locks "main.iff" and then opens png.datatype. Make sure that at SnoopDos Functions on the left side "Only show fails" and "Ignore Workbench/Shell" are not selected. I would also not select "Packet debugger".

DamienD · 11 January 2018, 14:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by daxb

Are you sure you picked the right archive?

I used the link that IvanEBC originally posted: http://aminet.net/game/board/ChangeIt09_AOS3.lha

Quote:

Originally Posted by daxb

What happens if you start Multiview and pick the main.iff file? Does it display it correct? If yes your datatypes setting should be ok. Else there is your problem.

Here SnoopDos shows that ChangeIt locks "main.iff" and then opens png.datatype. Make sure that at SnoopDos Functions on the left side "Only show fails" and "Ignore Workbench/Shell" are not selected. I would also not select "Packet debugger".

...deleted it now so can't test further but everything was working. Tried all the numerous icons that start different games.

Solo Kazuki · 11 January 2018, 15:31

@IvanEBC

I was talking with author (Phibrizzo) and he asked me to ask You: Did You receive answer? It's because he have problems with gmail and don't know if You receive answer.

daxb · 11 January 2018, 15:49

@DamienD:
I was talking to IvanEBC who has the problem. So you don't need to test anything.

DamienD · 11 January 2018, 15:52

Ah; as it was straight after my post I thought your comments were directed at me...

IvanEBC · 13 January 2018, 03:13

Wow, this blew up ..

Yes i got the authors awesome message - he was the one who mentioned about resaving the IFFs (that are actually pngs) as actual IFF, that didn't help.

The only thing in here i have not tried that was suggested is checking out the images in multiview (I use visage which is maybe doing its own decoding that's not native?)
Will get back to the Amiga later today and see if i can work out anything.

IvanEBC · 13 January 2018, 14:56

Issue found, how do i fix?

Visage loads the images.
Multiview does not, but gives no error, displays nothing, its like i didn't do anything.

Snoopdos as default doesn't tell me anything except a failed tooltype (called 639).
I have this feeling that while i have BB1 and 2 on, i nicked a few datatypes from BB3/4 thinking those were safe to update some months ago, i'll seek out the BB1/2 datatypes, especially PNG and ILBM and see if that's the fix.

IvanEBC · 13 January 2018, 15:11

Multiview is dead, i never actually used it previously as i use dopus and things like visage for images... i put the datatypes back to my fresh install versions and that hasn't done anything.

Multiview won't load anything, i tried standard IF, doc, txt files, nothing works.

Suggestions?

daxb · 13 January 2018, 17:46

Seems something is broken on your system. Multiview open around 10 libraries on startup on my 3.1 install. Run SnoopDos then Multiview and it will show you. Check at least datatypes.library, workbench.library and iffparse.library. If I choose an IFF image then ilbm.datatypes will open and the IFF is shown. Show us your SnoopDos log then we can tell you more.

IvanEBC · 17 January 2018, 13:30

Hmmm, no fails.. and datatypes.library not touched

Code:

Count Process Name       Action     Target Name                 Options Res.
----- ------------       ------     -----------                 ------- ----
1     WBL                ChangeDir  OS39:Utilities                          
2     WBL                Load       MultiView                           OK  
3     WBL                ChangeDir  SYS:                                    
4     MultiView          Open       OS39:Utilities/MultiView.in Read    OK  
5     MultiView          ToolType   SHOWINFO                            OK  
6     ramlib             Load       LIBS:FileID.library                 OK  
7     ramlib             Load       LIBS:asl.library                    OK  
8     MultiView          ChangeDir  Amiga:Demos/A/ADF/Evening a             
9     MultiView          Open       igame.iff                   Read    OK  
10    MultiView          ToolType   019                                 OK  
11    MultiView          Execute    Run SYS:Utilities/Visage "i Single  OK

It does open after asl.library to a file requestor, i picked a standard .iff, then just .. nothing...

My datatypes.library is v44.47.

EDIT: Wait ? what is that LAST line doing, trying to open visage?

DamienD · 17 January 2018, 14:13

@IvanEBC; I put your text in "[CODE]" so that it reads better

daxb · 17 January 2018, 15:45

The log is to short. My SnoopDos log has more then 100 lines on my 3.1 system doing the same as you. Try the same on your 3.1 system. Multiview should/have to work.

I can't say how OS3.9 behaves and only guess what is on your system. Maybe you have some patch or something else that redirect Multiview or generally special filetypes to Visage or other tools? But then Visage should at least show the image. Someone with OS3.9 knowledge could tell you more or give a reference SnoopDos log.

IvanEBC · 18 January 2018, 05:47

OK, here's what happened, the A4000 now displays .IFF. I run mutiview on the A1200 and it displayed the .iff file.... but what i noticed in snoopdos was it was still using visage to play it. and it was looking for visage in SYS:Utilities/visage .... which on my A1200, is exactly where it is located.

On the A4000, visage is located in SYS:Programs/Visage.
Despite me changing the icon for multiview to point to this location, snoopdos reported it was still looking in the wrong location, so i manually copied visage to the utilities directory, and low and behold, multiview now views .IFF, including the ones from the changeit directories..... but changeit still says it can't load the main.iff file and exists.

So multiview isn't exactly fixed, but it works (rather it point to visage in my correct installed folder and not have two copies running around)

In the end, hasn't solved this game from running.

It might be big, but would you like to to switch on EVERY snoopdos function and run changeit and report THAT log to here?

IvanEBC · 18 January 2018, 06:33

I decided the answer was likely a YES... so here's the full log from snoopdos, every "function is on" except the "only show fails"

Code:

Count Process Name       Action     Target Name                 Options Res.
----- ------------       ------     -----------                 ------- ----
80    CON                OpenLib    intuition.library           Ver 0   OK  
81    CON                OpenLib    utility.library             Ver 0   OK  
82    ChangeIt           Open       *                           Read    OK  
83    ChangeIt           OpenLib    datatypes.library           Ver 36  OK  
84    ChangeIt           OpenLib    icon.library                Ver 36  OK  
85    ChangeIt           FindPort   Directory Opus                      Fail
86    ChangeIt           OpenLib    intuition.library           Ver 36  OK  
87    ChangeIt           OpenLib    graphics.library            Ver 0   OK  
88    ChangeIt           OpenLib    gadtools.library            Ver 36  OK  
89    ChangeIt           OpenLib    diskfont.library            Ver 0   OK  
90    ChangeIt           OpenLib    cybergraphics.library       Ver 0   OK  
91    ChangeIt           #COPY_DIR   212EDC3                    DH1     OK  
92    ChangeIt           #EXAM_OBJE  212EDEF,  225064B          DH1     OK  
93    ChangeIt           #PARENT     212EDEF                    DH1     OK  
94    ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  212EDEF                    DH1     OK  
95    ChangeIt           #EXAM_OBJE  212EE1B,  225064B          DH1     OK  
96    ChangeIt           #PARENT     212EE1B                    DH1     OK  
97    ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  212EE1B                    DH1     OK  
98    ChangeIt           #EXAM_OBJE  212EDEF,  225064B          DH1     OK  
99    ChangeIt           #PARENT     212EDEF                    DH1     OK  
100   ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  212EDEF                    DH1     OK  
101   ChangeIt           #EXAM_OBJE  212EE1B,  225064B          DH1     OK  
102   ChangeIt           #PARENT     212EE1B                    DH1     Fail
103   ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  212EE1B                    DH1     OK  
104   ChangeIt           ChangeDir  DH1:Games/C/ChangeIt                    
105   ChangeIt           #COPY_DIR   212EDC3                    DH1     OK  
106   ChangeIt           #EXAM_OBJE  212EDEF,  22504D8          DH1     OK  
107   ChangeIt           #PARENT     212EDEF                    DH1     OK  
108   ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  212EDEF                    DH1     OK  
109   ChangeIt           #EXAM_OBJE  212EE1B,  22504D8          DH1     OK  
110   ChangeIt           #PARENT     212EE1B                    DH1     OK  
111   ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  212EE1B                    DH1     OK  
112   ChangeIt           #EXAM_OBJE  212EDEF,  22504D8          DH1     OK  
113   ChangeIt           #PARENT     212EDEF                    DH1     OK  
114   ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  212EDEF                    DH1     OK  
115   ChangeIt           #EXAM_OBJE  212EE1B,  22504D8          DH1     OK  
116   ChangeIt           #PARENT     212EE1B                    DH1     Fail
117   ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  212EE1B                    DH1     OK  
118   ChangeIt           Open       DH1:Games/C/ChangeIt/Change Read    OK  
119   ChangeIt           *Open      DH1:Games/C/ChangeIt/Change Read    OK  
120   ChangeIt           #FINDINPUT  20374E3,  212EDC3,  20336C DH1     OK  
121   ChangeIt           #SEEK       84BB7B4,        0,         DH1     OK  
122   ChangeIt           #SEEK       84BB7B4,        0, FFFFFFF DH1     OK  
123   ChangeIt           #READ       84BB7B4,  8941BCC,     199 DH1     OK  
124   ChangeIt           #END        84BB7B4                    DH1     OK  
125   ChangeIt           ToolType   DIR                                 OK  
126   ChangeIt           ToolType   AGA                                 OK  
127   ChangeIt           ToolType   PP                                  Fail
128   ChangeIt           ToolType   NPB                                 Fail
129   ChangeIt           ToolType   NOBORDER                            Fail
130   ChangeIt           ToolType   EXTRAGFX                            Fail
131   ChangeIt           ToolType   SOUND                               Fail
132   ChangeIt           #COPY_DIR   212EDD9                    DH1     OK  
133   ChangeIt           #EXAM_OBJE  212EDEF,  225064B          DH1     OK  
134   ChangeIt           #PARENT     212EDEF                    DH1     OK  
135   ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  212EDEF                    DH1     OK  
136   ChangeIt           #EXAM_OBJE  212EE1B,  225064B          DH1     OK  
137   ChangeIt           #PARENT     212EE1B                    DH1     OK  
138   ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  212EE1B                    DH1     OK  
139   ChangeIt           #EXAM_OBJE  212EDEF,  225064B          DH1     OK  
140   ChangeIt           #PARENT     212EDEF                    DH1     OK  
141   ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  212EDEF                    DH1     OK  
142   ChangeIt           #EXAM_OBJE  212EE1B,  225064B          DH1     OK  
143   ChangeIt           #PARENT     212EE1B                    DH1     Fail
144   ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  212EE1B                    DH1     OK  
145   ChangeIt           ChangeDir  DH1:Games/C/ChangeIt                    
146   ChangeIt           Open       NIL:                        Write   OK  
147   ChangeIt           System     assign fonts: Pirates/fonts         0   
148   ChangeIt           #COPY_DIR   212EDD9                    DH1     OK  
149   [1] <Unknown>      OpenLib    utility.library             Ver 0   OK  
150   [1] <Unknown>      #COPY_DIR   212EDEF                    DH1     OK  
151   [1] <Unknown>      #PARENT     212EE1B                    DH1     OK  
152   [1] <Unknown>      #EXAM_OBJE  212EE1B,  21F71AD          DH1     OK  
153   [1] <Unknown>      #FREE_LOCK  212EE1B                    DH1     OK  
154   [1] <Unknown>      #PARENT     212EE31                    DH1     OK  
155   [1] <Unknown>      #EXAM_OBJE  212EE31,  21F71AD          DH1     OK  
156   [1] <Unknown>      #FREE_LOCK  212EE31                    DH1     OK  
157   [1] <Unknown>      #PARENT     212EE1B                    DH1     OK  
158   [1] <Unknown>      #EXAM_OBJE  212EE1B,  21F71AD          DH1     OK  
159   [1] <Unknown>      #FREE_LOCK  212EE1B                    DH1     OK  
160   [1] <Unknown>      #PARENT     212EE31                    DH1     Fail
161   [1] <Unknown>      #FREE_LOCK  212EE31                    DH1     OK  
162   [1] assign         RunCommand fonts: Pirates/fonts add    4096    0   
163   [1] assign         #COPY_DIR   212EDEF                    DH1     OK  
164   [1] assign         #EXAM_OBJE  212EE1B,  225167E          DH1     OK  
165   [1] assign         #PARENT     212EE1B                    DH1     OK  
166   [1] assign         #FREE_LOCK  212EE1B                    DH1     OK  
167   [1] assign         #EXAM_OBJE  212EE31,  225167E          DH1     OK  
168   [1] assign         #PARENT     212EE31                    DH1     OK  
169   [1] assign         #FREE_LOCK  212EE31                    DH1     OK  
170   [1] assign         #EXAM_OBJE  212EE1B,  225167E          DH1     OK  
171   [1] assign         #PARENT     212EE1B                    DH1     OK  
172   [1] assign         #FREE_LOCK  212EE1B                    DH1     OK  
173   [1] assign         #EXAM_OBJE  212EE31,  225167E          DH1     OK  
174   [1] assign         #PARENT     212EE31                    DH1     Fail
175   [1] assign         #FREE_LOCK  212EE31                    DH1     OK  
176   [1] assign         Lock       DH1:Games/C/ChangeIt/Pirate Read    OK  
177   [1] assign         *Lock      DH1:Games/C/ChangeIt/Pirate Read    OK  
178   [1] assign         #LOC_OBJEC  212EDEF,  2251703, FFFFFFF DH1     OK  
179   [1] assign         #FREE_LOCK  223071F                    DH0     OK  
180   [1] assign         FindVar    RC                          Local   OK  
181   [1] assign         FindVar    Result2                     Local   OK  
182   ChangeIt           OpenFont   Changeit.font               Size 24 Fail
183   ChangeIt           Open       FONTS:Changeit.font         Read    OK  
184   ChangeIt           *Open      FONTS:Changeit.font         Read    OK  
185   ChangeIt           #FINDINPUT  20374E3,  2008F89,  203745 DH0     OK  
186   ChangeIt           #READ       88C1C1C,  8941AE4,         DH0     OK  
187   ChangeIt           #READ       88C1C1C,  87DC6B0,      10 DH0     OK  
188   ChangeIt           #END        88C1C1C                    DH0     OK  
189   ChangeIt           Load       FONTS:ChangeIt/24                   OK  
190   ChangeIt           *Open      FONTS:ChangeIt/24           Read    OK  
191   ChangeIt           #FINDINPUT  20374E3,  2008F89,  20336C DH0     OK  
192   ChangeIt           #READ       88C1C1C,  88C9670,      40 DH0     OK  
193   ChangeIt           #READ       88C1C1C,  8941FB0,      AF DH0     OK  
194   ChangeIt           #READ       88C1C1C,  88C9670,      40 DH0     OK  
195   ChangeIt           #READ       88C1C1C,  88C9670,      40 DH0     OK  
196   ChangeIt           #END        88C1C1C                    DH0     OK  
197   ChangeIt           OpenFont   helvetica.font              Size 13 OK  
198   ChangeIt           OpenFont   xen.font                    Size 8  OK  
199   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
200   ChangeIt           Open       progdir:score               Read    Fail
201   ChangeIt           *Open      progdir:score               Read    Fail
202   ChangeIt           #FINDINPUT  20424F3,  212EE05,  203555 DH1     Fail
203   ChangeIt           Lock       ENV:                        Read    OK  
204   ChangeIt           *Lock      ENV:                        Read    OK  
205   ChangeIt           #LOC_OBJEC  20874F9,  225067D, FFFFFFF RAM     OK  
206   ChangeIt           #COPY_DIR   2087A81                    RAM     OK  
207   ChangeIt           #EXAM_OBJE  2087CA9,  2250630          RAM     OK  
208   ChangeIt           #PARENT     2087CA9                    RAM     OK  
209   ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  2087CA9                    RAM     OK  
210   ChangeIt           #EXAM_OBJE  2087CC1,  2250630          RAM     OK  
211   ChangeIt           #PARENT     2087CC1                    RAM     Fail
212   ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  2087CC1                    RAM     OK  
213   ChangeIt           ChangeDir  RAM:ENV                                 
214   ChangeIt           #COPY_DIR   2087A81                    RAM     OK  
215   ChangeIt           #EXAM_OBJE  2087CA9,  22505F5          RAM     OK  
216   ChangeIt           #PARENT     2087CA9                    RAM     OK  
217   ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  2087CA9                    RAM     OK  
218   ChangeIt           #EXAM_OBJE  2087CC1,  22505F5          RAM     OK  
219   ChangeIt           #PARENT     2087CC1                    RAM     Fail
220   ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  2087CC1                    RAM     OK  
221   ChangeIt           Lock       RAM:ENV/TZ                  Read    Fail
222   ChangeIt           *Lock      RAM:ENV/TZ                  Read    Fail
223   ChangeIt           #LOC_OBJEC  2087A81,  225067D, FFFFFFF RAM     Fail
224   ChangeIt           #COPY_DIR   212EDD9                    DH1     OK  
225   ChangeIt           #EXAM_OBJE  212EDEF,  2250630          DH1     OK  
226   ChangeIt           #PARENT     212EDEF                    DH1     OK  
227   ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  212EDEF                    DH1     OK  
228   ChangeIt           #EXAM_OBJE  212EE31,  2250630          DH1     OK  
229   ChangeIt           #PARENT     212EE31                    DH1     OK  
230   ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  212EE31                    DH1     OK  
231   ChangeIt           #EXAM_OBJE  212EDEF,  2250630          DH1     OK  
232   ChangeIt           #PARENT     212EDEF                    DH1     OK  
233   ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  212EDEF                    DH1     OK  
234   ChangeIt           #EXAM_OBJE  212EE31,  2250630          DH1     OK  
235   ChangeIt           #PARENT     212EE31                    DH1     Fail
236   ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  212EE31                    DH1     OK  
237   ChangeIt           ChangeDir  DH1:Games/C/ChangeIt                    
238   ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  2087A81                    RAM     OK  
239   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
240   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
241   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
242   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
243   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
244   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
245   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
246   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
247   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
248   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
249   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
250   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
251   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
252   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
253   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
254   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
255   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
256   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
257   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
258   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
259   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
260   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
261   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
262   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
263   ChangeIt           #COPY_DIR   212EDD9                    DH1     OK  
264   ChangeIt           #EXAM_OBJE  212EDEF,  22505EA          DH1     OK  
265   ChangeIt           #PARENT     212EDEF                    DH1     OK  
266   ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  212EDEF                    DH1     OK  
267   ChangeIt           #EXAM_OBJE  212EE31,  22505EA          DH1     OK  
268   ChangeIt           #PARENT     212EE31                    DH1     OK  
269   ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  212EE31                    DH1     OK  
270   ChangeIt           #EXAM_OBJE  212EDEF,  22505EA          DH1     OK  
271   ChangeIt           #PARENT     212EDEF                    DH1     OK  
272   ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  212EDEF                    DH1     OK  
273   ChangeIt           #EXAM_OBJE  212EE31,  22505EA          DH1     OK  
274   ChangeIt           #PARENT     212EE31                    DH1     Fail
275   ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  212EE31                    DH1     OK  
276   ChangeIt           Lock       DH1:Games/C/ChangeIt/Pirate Read    OK  
277   ChangeIt           *Lock      DH1:Games/C/ChangeIt/Pirate Read    OK  
278   ChangeIt           #LOC_OBJEC  212EDD9,  225066F, FFFFFFF DH1     OK  
279   ChangeIt           #EXAM_OBJE  212EDEF,  2250652          DH1     OK  
280   ChangeIt           #COPY_DIR   212EDEF                    DH1     OK  
281   ChangeIt           #FH_FROM_L  20424F3,  212EE31          DH1     OK  
282   ChangeIt           #READ       84BB914,  81299BC,       4 DH1     OK  
283   ChangeIt           #SEEK       84BB914,        0, FFFFFFF DH1     OK  
284   ChangeIt           #END        84BB914                    DH1     OK  
285   ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  212EDEF                    DH1     OK  
286   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
287   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
288   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
289   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
290   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
291   ChangeIt           OpenFont   topaz.font                  Size 8  OK  
292   ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  212EDD9                    DH1     OK  
293   ChangeIt           #FREE_LOCK  212EE05                    DH1     OK

daxb · 18 January 2018, 18:27

Next time you can disable "Packet debugger" because in most cases it is not needed.

Sorry, I still can only guess what is going on. At line 276 and 277 "main.iff" (what is a PNG) is locked I think (path is truncated). Here (OS3.1) ChangeIt v0.6 does an OpenLib on datatypes/png.datatype, then some other libraries, datatypes.library, picture.datatype and then the next image (skin.iff). ChangeIt has successful loaded.

I would suggest that you first "repair" your OS installation, then go over ChangeIt. I.e. Multitview without any tooltypes set should open/show text files, amigaguides, IFF/PNG/JPEG/... by itself. You can use the Shell and simply type "Multiview <path:filename>". For example "Multiview S:Startup-Sequence" for a text file.

09 January 2018, 04:23	#1
IvanEBC Registered User Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Adelaide / Australia Posts: 565	Change It (Bejeweled Clone) Hi Folks I haven't quite been able to nut out the way to get this game to work. http://aminet.net/game/board/ChangeIt09_AOS3.lha So far, i have simply downloaded, unpacked and tried running the "changeit" icon and i get the "Error: can't load main.iff file". I've read through the .guide and read all about tooltypes etc.... especially where you need the tooltype on the icon to point to a directory ie DIR=Pirates That was the default one, there is a directory called Pirates, and i can see main.iff in there. I have tried the other icons for both AGA and RTG (i should be able to run both) and checked the icon scripts that all appear to already be correct, but each and every attempt gives me the same error "can't load main.iff file" Other items for requirements include png.datatype, yeah got that with OS3.9 and the main.iff is viewable in dopus, so i don't think i have an issue there. A4000/410mb/128gb/VA2000/OS39+BB2 Snoopdos doesn't show any fails.....

11 January 2018, 09:36	#4
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 46 Posts: 2,358	All I can say is that I installed Changeit v0.9 a very long time ago, and to this day, it still works. I have just played a match to confirm it. Maybe your system is somehow corrupted? ---Update--- To make life easier on you, I have archived my ChangeIt v0.9 game drawer in a zip file and uploaded it to The Zone! So at least you have a verified working game setup. Hope it works. Last edited by gulliver; 11 January 2018 at 09:46. Reason: update

13 January 2018, 15:11	#13
IvanEBC Registered User Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Adelaide / Australia Posts: 565	Multiview is dead, i never actually used it previously as i use dopus and things like visage for images... i put the datatypes back to my fresh install versions and that hasn't done anything. Multiview won't load anything, i tried standard IF, doc, txt files, nothing works. Suggestions? Last edited by IvanEBC; 13 January 2018 at 16:28.

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09 January 2018, 12:29	#2
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,303	Make sure that all needed SnoopDos functions are activated. Normaly it should catch the fault. Use Multiview to check that main.iff (filetye is PNG. Naming is misleading.) will load/view correct. I've only V0.6 (works) and can't check V0.9. 0.9 mention "- changed the parameters syntax" that might cause your problem?

11 January 2018, 04:53	#3
IvanEBC Registered User Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Adelaide / Australia Posts: 565	Didn't know which snoopdos functions were needed so i switched them ALL on and there isn't even a call for the main.iff happening. You are the programmers i emailled had a similar solution - grab the iff, rename it to PNG, then load it up and actually save it as IFF.... Didn't work. Moved the whole program to my Amiga 1200 with OS3.1 and i get the same error... i got a feeling i'm meant to do more than just unpack the archive and copy the folder and run it...... the instructions aren't perfectly clear to me but feel something else is missing, and i know Amiga programmers arne't good document writers, i used to be a good reader and got most things to work, but not so much these days.

11 January 2018, 12:39	#5
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Hmmm, gave this a quick try on my ClassicWB Lite 3.1 .HDF. Extracted the archive, launched and it ran first go without an issue.

11 January 2018, 14:27	#6
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,303	Installation should be like you did. Depack, copy it somewhere and start it. Are you sure you picked the right archive? What happens if you start Multiview and pick the main.iff file? Does it display it correct? If yes your datatypes setting should be ok. Else there is your problem. Here SnoopDos shows that ChangeIt locks "main.iff" and then opens png.datatype. Make sure that at SnoopDos Functions on the left side "Only show fails" and "Ignore Workbench/Shell" are not selected. I would also not select "Packet debugger".

11 January 2018, 15:31	#8
Solo Kazuki Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Poland Posts: 1,301	@IvanEBC I was talking with author (Phibrizzo) and he asked me to ask You: Did You receive answer? It's because he have problems with gmail and don't know if You receive answer.

11 January 2018, 15:49	#9
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,303	@DamienD: I was talking to IvanEBC who has the problem. So you don't need to test anything.

11 January 2018, 15:52	#10
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Ah; as it was straight after my post I thought your comments were directed at me...

13 January 2018, 03:13	#11
IvanEBC Registered User Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Adelaide / Australia Posts: 565	Wow, this blew up .. Yes i got the authors awesome message - he was the one who mentioned about resaving the IFFs (that are actually pngs) as actual IFF, that didn't help. The only thing in here i have not tried that was suggested is checking out the images in multiview (I use visage which is maybe doing its own decoding that's not native?) Will get back to the Amiga later today and see if i can work out anything.

13 January 2018, 14:56	#12
IvanEBC Registered User Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Adelaide / Australia Posts: 565	Issue found, how do i fix? Visage loads the images. Multiview does not, but gives no error, displays nothing, its like i didn't do anything. Snoopdos as default doesn't tell me anything except a failed tooltype (called 639). I have this feeling that while i have BB1 and 2 on, i nicked a few datatypes from BB3/4 thinking those were safe to update some months ago, i'll seek out the BB1/2 datatypes, especially PNG and ILBM and see if that's the fix.

13 January 2018, 17:46	#14
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,303	Seems something is broken on your system. Multiview open around 10 libraries on startup on my 3.1 install. Run SnoopDos then Multiview and it will show you. Check at least datatypes.library, workbench.library and iffparse.library. If I choose an IFF image then ilbm.datatypes will open and the IFF is shown. Show us your SnoopDos log then we can tell you more.

17 January 2018, 14:13	#16
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	@IvanEBC; I put your text in "[CODE]" so that it reads better

17 January 2018, 15:45	#17
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,303	The log is to short. My SnoopDos log has more then 100 lines on my 3.1 system doing the same as you. Try the same on your 3.1 system. Multiview should/have to work. I can't say how OS3.9 behaves and only guess what is on your system. Maybe you have some patch or something else that redirect Multiview or generally special filetypes to Visage or other tools? But then Visage should at least show the image. Someone with OS3.9 knowledge could tell you more or give a reference SnoopDos log.

18 January 2018, 05:47	#18
IvanEBC Registered User Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Adelaide / Australia Posts: 565	OK, here's what happened, the A4000 now displays .IFF. I run mutiview on the A1200 and it displayed the .iff file.... but what i noticed in snoopdos was it was still using visage to play it. and it was looking for visage in SYS:Utilities/visage .... which on my A1200, is exactly where it is located. On the A4000, visage is located in SYS:Programs/Visage. Despite me changing the icon for multiview to point to this location, snoopdos reported it was still looking in the wrong location, so i manually copied visage to the utilities directory, and low and behold, multiview now views .IFF, including the ones from the changeit directories..... but changeit still says it can't load the main.iff file and exists. So multiview isn't exactly fixed, but it works (rather it point to visage in my correct installed folder and not have two copies running around) In the end, hasn't solved this game from running. It might be big, but would you like to to switch on EVERY snoopdos function and run changeit and report THAT log to here?

18 January 2018, 18:27	#20
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,303	Next time you can disable "Packet debugger" because in most cases it is not needed. Sorry, I still can only guess what is going on. At line 276 and 277 "main.iff" (what is a PNG) is locked I think (path is truncated). Here (OS3.1) ChangeIt v0.6 does an OpenLib on datatypes/png.datatype, then some other libraries, datatypes.library, picture.datatype and then the next image (skin.iff). ChangeIt has successful loaded. I would suggest that you first "repair" your OS installation, then go over ChangeIt. I.e. Multitview without any tooltypes set should open/show text files, amigaguides, IFF/PNG/JPEG/... by itself. You can use the Shell and simply type "Multiview <path:filename>". For example "Multiview S:Startup-Sequence" for a text file.

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