Is anybody ripping Amiga music anymore?

[Grazey]

Hi guys,


I'm admin/ripper at SNDH.atari.org the primary depository for Atari ST music. I know on the Amiga side we have Exotica plus they myriad of MOD sites and Mirsoft.


However, I still note not all Amiga game tunes are ripped. For example, I recently ripped the tunes from Test Drive on the ST. I can't find the equivalent Amiga rip (horrid compiled code btw!).


So is the Amiga music ripping scene still active?



Cheers
Grazey

[chip]

Good question !

I think there's a general lack of motivation when we talk of ripping Amiga music

At least this could be a reason because not all Amiga tunes are still ripped

[derSammler]

As for Test Drive, there is nothing that needs ripping. The music is on the disk in the "Songs" folder. No idea what format it uses, however - at least Eagleplayer can not play it. Certainly a custom format.

[DisasterIncarna]

The Test Drive Title music on Modland seems to be a plain Protracker mod? https://files.exotica.org.uk/modland...ve%20title.mod same author made the c64 sid tunes: https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/....sid&subtune=3

https://www.exotica.org.uk/mediawiki...col=&siz=&ins=

as for ripping new stuff, im not even sure if any new stuff we have doesnt just give you plain access to the music or has it uploaded somewhere already?

[rygar]

All music was archived in this project:
Stone Oakvalley's Amiga Music Collection (SOAMC=)
https://www.paula8364.com/

[chip]

SOAMC is a great site, but it's not complete

No Amiga music site is complete

[Jope]

Originally Posted by derSammler

As for Test Drive, there is nothing that needs ripping. The music is on the disk in the "Songs" folder. No idea what format it uses, however - at least Eagleplayer can not play it. Certainly a custom format.

$ xdftool Test\ Drive\ \(1988\)\(Accolade\).adf type Songs/TestDrive.Iff.Sng | xxd
00000000: 464f 524d 0000 1a78 534d 5553 5348 4452 FORM...xSMUSSHDR
00000010: 0000 0004 4100 7f03 4e41 4d45 0000 0013 ....A...NAME....
00000020: 6472 6976 6563 6172 6669 6e2e 6966 662e drivecarfin.iff.
00000030: 736e 6700 494e 5331 0000 000f 0000 0000 sng.INS1........
00000040: 5065 7263 7573 7369 6f6e 0000 494e 5331 Percussion..INS1
00000050: 0000 000d 0100 0000 456c 6563 4261 7373 ........ElecBass
00000060: 0000 494e 5331 0000 000e 0200 0000 4275 ..INS1........Bu
00000070: 7a7a 5379 6e74 6800 5452 414b 0000 0a22 zzSynth.TRAK..."
00000080: 8701 8300 8102 8000 8000 8000 8000 8000 ................

IFF SMUS, but it may be subtly customized. DMCS, Sonix and Instant Music at least use some variants of SMUS, but I'm not sure if there are multiple versions of the format?

[Grazey]

Yes. The ST version is iff-smus too. I think this format was used by music construction kit. But it appears a variant and cannot be loaded by the app. It’s a shame Amiga music is scattered over a number sites.

Cheers grazey

[GWhizz]

no so much

[StoneOakvalley]

Well, my story about "ripping" happened during 2018-2020 or so for the SOAMC= ENDGAME, where I created a bunch of tools and automation to extract, rip, scan, double scan and identify over 88000 tunes during 1 year or something 24/7, scanning through millions of files to do this all automatically.

A couple of handful formats where also manually extracted by hand.

https://www.paula8364.com/socse/inde...&term_counts=0

But, yeah, automated ripping can only go as far as using either own tools to find an song inside a binary files, along using ProWizard, ExoticRipper etc.... to catch the rest. Obscure or modified song file headers would fall through such an approach naturally.