Simon the Sorcerer 1 ECS (french) - Saved game issue

[malko]

After comparing all the files between the "IPF" set and the "[cr-GOD]" set (disks 2 -> 9), as there was no difference at all, I have renamed the ADF files and added the one kindly provided by StingRay (disk 1). It's in the zone .

[StingRay]

My crack is just a 1-byte modification on disk 1.

[malko]

... and it does the job .

"La modestie va bien aux grands hommes. C'est de n'être rien et d'être quand même modeste qui est difficile."
Jules Renard - Artiste, écrivain (1864 - 1910)

[dlfrsilver]

Originally Posted by StingRay

My crack is just a 1-byte modification on disk 1.

Mhhhh will you add a nice intro for this patch or will you fix the GOD crack ?

[StingRay]

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

Mhhhh will you add a nice intro for this patch or will you fix the GOD crack ?

I will not touch the lame GOD crack at all (why should I?) and probably won't add any intro either as this was just a quick hack to help malko. Game works and can be played, that's all I was interested in.

[malko]

For information purpose only

My "mini-Gozilla" were complaining about an action they cannot perform with the new crack (see bug 4 below)

So I checked and I saw more bugs with the "GOD" release :
bug 2a- Simon will jump in front of the dwarf's cave ;
bug 2b- Before Simon jumps, texts are not displayed in the same chronology as in the original game ;
bug 2c- After jumping Simon will disappear when we want to move him ;
bug 3- As soon as we want to move to another screen, Simon says he is wearing the beard (even if not wearing it) ;
bug 4- Simon can go through the closed grid of the castle and enter the torture room.

For sure there are other issues, but since we are not playing this set any more ...

In view of the above, maybe dlfrsilver's idea about a cracktro is a good idea

[DamienD]

malko, why are you still using the GOD release? Surely you should use StingRay's disk 1 and the IPFs for the other disks.

...or even install using the above set.

[malko]

Originally Posted by DamienD

malko, why are you still using the GOD release? Surely you should use StingRay's disk 1 and the IPFs for the other disks.

...or even install using the above set.

I don't use it any more. I only checked the so-called "bug" my kids reported .
Of course we use the "StingRay" one

[malko]

Today I received a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig hug ! With a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig THANK YOU DAD for the working game !!!
(an action that was impossible before is now allowed with your crack and they tested it only today)

I keep the hug , but forward you the "biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig THANK YOU" from my "mini-Godzilla" StingRay

[StingRay]

Excellent. I wish your little ones much fun playing the game.

[dlfrsilver]

Originally Posted by StingRay

Excellent. I wish your little ones much fun playing the game.

Simon is a top class game. ah, so well used 64 colors halfbright graphics

[Don_Adan]

Many years passed after Mok cracked ECS version correctly, then I can recall something wrong. But I suspect that StingRay crack will be dont works from HD. Why? Because HD installer copy files from 1st to 9th disk. And cracked file from first disk is overwritten by same file (uncracked) from other disk. Of course maybe it was different adventure game with this smart protection, but on 90% it was Simon The Sorcerer game. If Im right then cracked file must be copied on other disk too.

[StingRay]

Yes, the data file is present on disk 2 as well. This has more to do with with minimizing disk changes than smart protection for me though.

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by Don_Adan

Many years passed after Mok cracked ECS version correctly, then I can recall something wrong. But I suspect that StingRay crack will be dont works from HD. Why? Because HD installer copy files from 1st to 9th disk. And cracked file from first disk is overwritten by same file (uncracked) from other disk. Of course maybe it was different adventure game with this smart protection, but on 90% it was Simon The Sorcerer game. If Im right then cracked file must be copied on other disk too.

Couldn't you just install using Stingray's Disk 1 and the .IPFs for the other disks; then once complete manually copy Stingray's cracked file from Disk 1 to the installed folder?

[StingRay]

Yes, that will of course work.

[malko]

Originally Posted by Don_Adan

[...] But I suspect that StingRay crack will be dont works from HD. Why? Because HD installer copy files from 1st to 9th disk. And cracked file from first disk is overwritten by same file (uncracked) from other disk. [...]

I will replace the archive with an updated disk 2 as well then.
Good for me that, with DOS disks, I always copy the files manually and begin with the last disk of the set (9 -> 1)

[Don_Adan]

Originally Posted by StingRay

Yes, the data file is present on disk 2 as well. This has more to do with with minimizing disk changes than smart protection for me though.

No, this is smart HD protection, if i remember right this file is not called/unused when you played from disks. Maybe Malko can delete this file from second disk and play from disks to confirm?

[Don_Adan]

Originally Posted by DamienD

Couldn't you just install using Stingray's Disk 1 and the .IPFs for the other disks; then once complete manually copy Stingray's cracked file from Disk 1 to the installed folder?

Yes, it will be works, but clean version (for me) is replaced uncracked file with cracked version. If someone will be used original HD installer. In my Amiga collection, I have cracked file on both disks. I remember that someone fixed this problem modyfiyng original HD install too, data from first disk was copied at the end. At begining data from disk 2 to disk 9 was copied.

[malko]

Originally Posted by Don_Adan

No, this is smart HD protection, if i remember right this file is not called/unused when you played from disks. Maybe Malko can delete this file from second disk and play from disks to confirm?

If I remember correctly a video in youtube, this game takes almost 5 hours to complete when you know what has to be done... I thus have to decline, or you have to wait maybe 6 month or a year before I can confirm that the whole game is working without the file on disk 2...

Ok, updated archive in the zone.

Edit: Thanks DonAdan

[malko]

The day before yesterday my min-Godzilla managed to finish Simon the Sorcerer .
I only helped them twice for the whole game. Whaou !

Your crack is StingRay !

They issued some bugs while playing but I am quite sure it is not related to the crack. To keep a record, here are the two issue they faced (not reproducible every time) :
- From the village, use the map to go to the dwarfs' cave. Enter the cave -> crash.
- From the dwarfs' cave walk to the woodcutter's house. When entering the woodcutter "screen" -> black screen, music still playing, if you click with the mouse several time -> crash.