B.A.T. woes

gilgamesh · 14 June 2016, 11:20

B.A.T. hangs with FS-UAE 2.7.8 in some rooms, e.g. behind the hotel and across the central junction. I shows me the clock mouse pointer forever, still moving and no guru. I've tried A500 and A1200 emulation at different accuracy levels and drive speeds. Has anybody had this problem before? What other options should I tweak?

gilgamesh · 16 June 2016, 15:46

No one? Really?

B.A.T. is a classic and it is crippled.

DamienD · 16 June 2016, 19:05

Not really much help to you as I'm using WinUAE; all is good

Standard A500 configuration i.e. KS 1.3 / 512K Chip and 512K Slow RAM.

What disks do you use? I'm using these:

... B.A.T. (1990)(Ubi Soft)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr QTX].adf [CRC: 15340998]
... B.A.T. (1990)(Ubi Soft)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr QTX].adf [CRC: DDFED590]

gilgamesh · 16 June 2016, 22:39

Thank you. Emulation core should be the same and configuration, images should also match:
B.A.T. (1990)(Ubi Soft)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr QTX].adf
B.A.T. (1990)(Ubi Soft)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr QTX][a].adf
B.A.T. (1990)(Ubi Soft)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr QTX].adf

What tool did you use for checksum?
With cksum I get
3043976322
3710189751
719854392

and with md5sum
8c3538c418e58cd5499b8bb2917d13ca
89ba924296a084bbe5748f2f49cb95d3
a809a3d12c529dc733a889e229f06d50

respectively. Weird. Maybe this should be moved to support.fs-uae then?

DamienD · 16 June 2016, 23:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by gilgamesh

Thank you. Emulation core should be the same and configuration, images should also match:
B.A.T. (1990)(Ubi Soft)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr QTX].adf
B.A.T. (1990)(Ubi Soft)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr QTX][a].adf
B.A.T. (1990)(Ubi Soft)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr QTX].adf

...probably, but as I've never used FS-UAE I can't comment.

I've been using WinUAE since 2004 and am very happy with progress / features / bug fixes etc. (cheers Master Wilen) so have never felt the need to even try or ultimately change Amiga emulators

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilgamesh

What tool did you use for checksum?
With cksum I get
3043976322
3710189751
719854392

and with md5sum
8c3538c418e58cd5499b8bb2917d13ca
89ba924296a084bbe5748f2f49cb95d3
a809a3d12c529dc733a889e229f06d50

No tool; just opened the .ZIP files in WinRAR with the CRC32 column displayed

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilgamesh

respectively. Weird. Maybe this should be moved to support.fs-uae then?

Firstly; try the exact same disks in WinUAE (if you can i.e. are using a Windows based computer and not a MAC / Linux one) and if the problem isn't there then you know it's an FS-UAE issue.

...but without doing the above, I would probably say so

I've heard that FS-UAE has a database with best versions / configurations (much like GameBase Amiga). That is very cool indeed (would have saved me years of testing etc...)

After all of the above, I guess if you say the disks recommended by FS-UAE don't work then yes; report to the emulator author (or even better; find a set that does possibly work)

gilgamesh · 17 June 2016, 21:32

My CRC is the same as yours and it runs on WinUAE but not on FS-UAE. Strange. I'll PM Frode Solheim and hope he will look into this.

The bug is easy to reproduce:
On an emulated A500 (or A1200)
- go through right door "WC"
- go north and click "ok" for briefing
- exit south
- exit east
- go north to leave space dock
- go north to leave space port
- go east behind hotel

-> game hangs

DamienD · 17 June 2016, 22:03

Nice work Gilgamesh!!!

Now that we have details / comparisons / steps to reproduce; I'm sure Frode will be able to investigate and fix for all FS-UAE people

gilgamesh · 09 July 2016, 11:52

This is strange. When the game hangs and shows the clock pointer, it continues whenever I change floppies. Maybe changing disks signals an interrupt?

thevoice · 31 July 2016, 09:55

actually the quartex cracktro tells you to swap disks when the led flashes.
tricky part is fs-uae dont show drive/power led by default.
but you can easily setup a theme to make led's visible. for example open the settings then go to advanced settings and put a line like theme = AMIGA
and you can see the led now

. there is a few more thems in your themes directory so you can chose one which fits your likes the most.

gilgamesh · 08 October 2016, 13:19

Thanks for the heads-up, thevoice. I wish I had known this before making such a fuss.

14 June 2016, 11:20	#1
gilgamesh Linux snob Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Monkey Island Posts: 997	B.A.T. woes B.A.T. hangs with FS-UAE 2.7.8 in some rooms, e.g. behind the hotel and across the central junction. I shows me the clock mouse pointer forever, still moving and no guru. I've tried A500 and A1200 emulation at different accuracy levels and drive speeds. Has anybody had this problem before? What other options should I tweak?

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16 June 2016, 15:46	#2
gilgamesh Linux snob Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Monkey Island Posts: 997	No one? Really? B.A.T. is a classic and it is crippled.

16 June 2016, 19:05	#3
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Not really much help to you as I'm using WinUAE; all is good Standard A500 configuration i.e. KS 1.3 / 512K Chip and 512K Slow RAM. What disks do you use? I'm using these: ... B.A.T. (1990)(Ubi Soft)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr QTX].adf [CRC: 15340998] ... B.A.T. (1990)(Ubi Soft)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr QTX].adf [CRC: DDFED590]

16 June 2016, 22:39	#4
gilgamesh Linux snob Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Monkey Island Posts: 997	Thank you. Emulation core should be the same and configuration, images should also match: B.A.T. (1990)(Ubi Soft)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr QTX].adf B.A.T. (1990)(Ubi Soft)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr QTX][a].adf B.A.T. (1990)(Ubi Soft)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr QTX].adf What tool did you use for checksum? With cksum I get 3043976322 3710189751 719854392 and with md5sum 8c3538c418e58cd5499b8bb2917d13ca 89ba924296a084bbe5748f2f49cb95d3 a809a3d12c529dc733a889e229f06d50 respectively. Weird. Maybe this should be moved to support.fs-uae then?

17 June 2016, 21:32	#6
gilgamesh Linux snob Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Monkey Island Posts: 997	My CRC is the same as yours and it runs on WinUAE but not on FS-UAE. Strange. I'll PM Frode Solheim and hope he will look into this. The bug is easy to reproduce: On an emulated A500 (or A1200) - go through right door "WC" - go north and click "ok" for briefing - exit south - exit east - go north to leave space dock - go north to leave space port - go east behind hotel -> game hangs

17 June 2016, 22:03	#7
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Nice work Gilgamesh!!! Now that we have details / comparisons / steps to reproduce; I'm sure Frode will be able to investigate and fix for all FS-UAE people

09 July 2016, 11:52	#8
gilgamesh Linux snob Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Monkey Island Posts: 997	This is strange. When the game hangs and shows the clock pointer, it continues whenever I change floppies. Maybe changing disks signals an interrupt?

31 July 2016, 09:55	#9
thevoice Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: germany Posts: 149	actually the quartex cracktro tells you to swap disks when the led flashes. tricky part is fs-uae dont show drive/power led by default. but you can easily setup a theme to make led's visible. for example open the settings then go to advanced settings and put a line like theme = AMIGA and you can see the led now . there is a few more thems in your themes directory so you can chose one which fits your likes the most.

08 October 2016, 13:19	#10
gilgamesh Linux snob Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Monkey Island Posts: 997	Thanks for the heads-up, thevoice. I wish I had known this before making such a fuss.

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