Tinyus - An arcade quality Amiga OCS port of Gradius/Nemesis - Page 2

Neil79 · 09 January 2021, 19:51

Are we likely to see this during the early part of the year? Jan/Feb?

pink^abyss · 09 January 2021, 19:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil79

Are we likely to see this during the early part of the year? Jan/Feb?

The game is content complete, but all levels need to be tested with all different setups and different game variables. Can't tell how long this takes.

Also i need to find room for ~3kb... this will be the biggest challenge.

roondar · 09 January 2021, 20:11

Looking forward to it already, this is a great game to have on the Amiga

pink^abyss · 09 January 2021, 20:11

Here you can listen to a (tiny) music impression from Tinyus
http://www.abyss-online.de/eab/tinyus.mp3

Most ingame music was done with 3 channels and the lead voice echos on the 4th channel (when no sfx are played). Not quite perfect, compared to the Arcade 5 channel audio but it works nicely.

The 14 tracks take 4kb chipram, and 24kb other ram.
All music was done with PreTracker 1.5.
PreTracker 1.5 now has support for subsongs and 32 additional soundfx.

Gzegzolka · 09 January 2021, 20:12

Awesome in my opinion ^^

pink^abyss · 09 January 2021, 20:32

All tiles and sprites were converted by Fade1 to fit into 32 colors. Each level has a unique set of 8 colors and 24 are shared among all levels. With a lot of tweaking it was so possible to have almost 1:1 arcade gfx on Amiga 500.

Gradius/Nemesis don't have that much gfx, but they use a lot of palette recoloring and X/Y flip. The arcade sprites use 16 colors each (out of many different palettes). The hardware can even zoom sprites, which needs additional large animations on Amiga.

In Tinyus on Amiga all moving gfx need 10 bitplanes (5 color planes + 5 mask planes). Most of the gfx need also X/Y flip and different palettes. The combination of all these attributes fills quickly all available chipram on A500.
A typical enemy animation with its amiga gfx:

It was not even possible to have only the gfx for the first level in chipram.
So gfx needed to be depacked on the fly or streamed from slowram to chipram.

Frog · 09 January 2021, 20:45

Gradius on Amiga... wow another prodigy of Abyss.

trydowave · 09 January 2021, 21:34

super stoked for this! Looks and sounds amazing so far.

saimon69 · 09 January 2021, 21:43

With some modification that engine could come out also a Tiny Salamander or a Tiny Parodius too [the MSX one of course], but i would like to see Amiga stuff featured

AmigaBill · 09 January 2021, 22:05

This is amazing news! Tiny Galaga and Tiny Invaders were 2 of my favorites from last year

mrv2k · 09 January 2021, 22:24

Amazing work!

wizball71 · 09 January 2021, 22:45

Whooooping

If this will be a 1:1 port from the C64 version this would made my day

to @pink^abyss

Neil79 · 09 January 2021, 22:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by pink^abyss

The game is content complete, but all levels need to be tested with all different setups and different game variables. Can't tell how long this takes.

Also i need to find room for ~3kb... this will be the biggest challenge.

Awesome man, just awesome!

jotd · 09 January 2021, 23:32

3kb? are you using the OS? (killing it saves space)
have you got the best compressor for your real-time frame decompressor ?

just some ideas...you probably thought of that. The game looks great. I wonder how you can pull so many excellent titles in no time. Superb!

jeff b00toNic · 09 January 2021, 23:42

Excellent!
This is going to be a gem considering the quality of your previous games.

Toni Galvez · 10 January 2021, 00:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by pink^abyss

Here you can listen to a (tiny) music impression from Tinyus
http://www.abyss-online.de/eab/tinyus.mp3

Most ingame music was done with 3 channels and the lead voice echos on the 4th channel (when no sfx are played). Not quite perfect, compared to the Arcade 5 channel audio but it works nicely.

The 14 tracks take 4kb chipram, and 24kb other ram.
All music was done with PreTracker 1.5.
PreTracker 1.5 now has support for subsongs and 32 additional soundfx.

Amazing rendition of the original songs, I really love the 4th channel echo. Well done.

About the graphics, you guys are doing an outstanding job.

It is a dream come true to have one of the best Konami games converted to the Amiga with such quality.

It was around 7 years ago, when I did my Gradius for Amiga video [ Show youtube player ] , it is amazing it become reality.

Thank you so much.

nikosidis · 10 January 2021, 00:52

Thank you for doing this. Looking forward to play the game

idrougge · 10 January 2021, 03:02

Konami + Abyss feels like a match made in heaven. Looking forward to this – and a trainer; Gradius is hell to play.

aros-sg · 10 January 2021, 08:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by pink^abyss

Also i need to find room for ~3kb... this will be the biggest challenge.

You can do Y-flipping with blitter by using negative modulo for source and mask.

You do not necessarily need 5+5 planes for every object. You can still blit some objects (if there are only a few of them on screen at once) plane by plane with one single mask plane. Then gfx for some could also be only 4 or 3 planes. And remaining planes all cleared or set using mask plane.

You should not be using horizontal screen doubling/mirroring technique for scrolling.

spoUP · 10 January 2021, 10:07

Wooow!!!

Gradius is one of my all time favs! Thanks for doing this!!!!

09 January 2021, 20:11	#24
pink^abyss Registered User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Untergrund/Germany Posts: 408	Tinyus - Music impression Here you can listen to a (tiny) music impression from Tinyus http://www.abyss-online.de/eab/tinyus.mp3 Most ingame music was done with 3 channels and the lead voice echos on the 4th channel (when no sfx are played). Not quite perfect, compared to the Arcade 5 channel audio but it works nicely. The 14 tracks take 4kb chipram, and 24kb other ram. All music was done with PreTracker 1.5. PreTracker 1.5 now has support for subsongs and 32 additional soundfx.

09 January 2021, 20:32	#26
pink^abyss Registered User Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Untergrund/Germany Posts: 408	Tinyus - Sprites conversion All tiles and sprites were converted by Fade1 to fit into 32 colors. Each level has a unique set of 8 colors and 24 are shared among all levels. With a lot of tweaking it was so possible to have almost 1:1 arcade gfx on Amiga 500. Gradius/Nemesis don't have that much gfx, but they use a lot of palette recoloring and X/Y flip. The arcade sprites use 16 colors each (out of many different palettes). The hardware can even zoom sprites, which needs additional large animations on Amiga. In Tinyus on Amiga all moving gfx need 10 bitplanes (5 color planes + 5 mask planes). Most of the gfx need also X/Y flip and different palettes. The combination of all these attributes fills quickly all available chipram on A500. A typical enemy animation with its amiga gfx: It was not even possible to have only the gfx for the first level in chipram. So gfx needed to be depacked on the fly or streamed from slowram to chipram. Last edited by pink^abyss; 10 January 2021 at 12:30.

09 January 2021, 21:43	#29
saimon69 J.M.D - Bedroom Musician Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: los angeles,ca Posts: 3,516	With some modification that engine could come out also a Tiny Salamander or a Tiny Parodius too [the MSX one of course], but i would like to see Amiga stuff featured Last edited by saimon69; 09 January 2021 at 21:56.

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09 January 2021, 19:51	#21
Neil79 Autistic 'n IRN! Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: - Posts: 2,978	Are we likely to see this during the early part of the year? Jan/Feb?

09 January 2021, 20:11	#23
roondar Registered User Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,408	Looking forward to it already, this is a great game to have on the Amiga

09 January 2021, 20:12	#25
Gzegzolka Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Warszawa / Polska Posts: 1,858	Awesome in my opinion ^^

09 January 2021, 20:45	#27
Frog Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,385	Gradius on Amiga... wow another prodigy of Abyss.

09 January 2021, 21:34	#28
trydowave Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 873	super stoked for this! Looks and sounds amazing so far.

09 January 2021, 22:05	#30
AmigaBill Registered User Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: New York, USA Posts: 178	This is amazing news! Tiny Galaga and Tiny Invaders were 2 of my favorites from last year

09 January 2021, 22:24	#31
mrv2k Registered User Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: England Age: 53 Posts: 431	Amazing work!

09 January 2021, 22:45	#32
wizball71 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Germany Posts: 9	Whooooping If this will be a 1:1 port from the C64 version this would made my day to @pink^abyss

09 January 2021, 23:32	#34
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,160	3kb? are you using the OS? (killing it saves space) have you got the best compressor for your real-time frame decompressor ? just some ideas...you probably thought of that. The game looks great. I wonder how you can pull so many excellent titles in no time. Superb!

09 January 2021, 23:42	#35
jeff b00toNic Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Arnsberg Germany Age: 45 Posts: 192	Excellent! This is going to be a gem considering the quality of your previous games.

10 January 2021, 00:52	#37
nikosidis Registered User Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: oslo/norway Posts: 1,607	Thank you for doing this. Looking forward to play the game

10 January 2021, 03:02	#38
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,332	Konami + Abyss feels like a match made in heaven. Looking forward to this – and a trainer; Gradius is hell to play.

10 January 2021, 10:07	#40
spoUP Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: sweden Age: 46 Posts: 430	Wooow!!! Gradius is one of my all time favs! Thanks for doing this!!!!

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