VERY long names in whd update packs... - Page 2

Retro-Nerd · 02 April 2007, 18:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by keropi

the fact that TC does not report the error does not really mean that you get a working copy... you just can't have a file named pro.i*riska in windows! maybe TC renames it, but when the game asks for the file u get a whdload error.

edit: TC renames to pro.i_riska without any message!

I don't know what you are doing there, but here it works fine.

keropi · 02 April 2007, 18:50

I repeat: the CORRECT AMIGA filename IS NOT pro.i_riska , it is pro.i*riska !!!!

transfer to your amiga the TC extracted data, and run the INTRO slave... then tell me what happens....

trust the keropi, I know what I am talking about...

killergorilla · 02 April 2007, 18:55

He's right Retro-Nerd, you can't unzip it and expect it to work. You won't have the correct filenames.

killergorilla · 02 April 2007, 18:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by keropi

KG, you emulation sell-out!!!
extra long filenames like: "DragonsLair&EscapeFromSingesCastle_v1.2a_Fast_1360&0980.zip " don't work on amigas without some replacement FileSystem! using standar 3.9 here and the names just truncate and I am asked several times to replace, because the files already exist....

Just tried this in winuae using DOpus4 and it works fine. My partition in WinUAE is ffs.

adolescent · 02 April 2007, 19:01

Why not just rename it once it's back on the Amiga?

Retro-Nerd · 02 April 2007, 19:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

He's right Retro-Nerd, you can't unzip it and expect it to work. You won't have the correct filenames.

Only one file in that case, not a big deal. I found only 3-4 other games, which causes this problem. Need more research, there must be a way to uncompress ALL files for ALL games correctly.

keropi · 02 April 2007, 19:02

ffs has a 32 chars filename limit... on my amiga (that I have no FS hacks whatsoever) the resulting file had a smaller name and no extension.

keropi · 02 April 2007, 19:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Only one file in that case, not a big deal. I found only 3-4 other games, which causes this problem. Need more research, there must be a way to uncompress ALL files for ALL games correctly.

yes, use winRAR to batch extract all files, and then see on the error window the failing archives... then just extract them manually on the amiga...
there is a good number of whd games that has this "failure" on the winpc...

Retro-Nerd · 02 April 2007, 19:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by keropi

there is a good number of whd games that has this "failure" on the winpc...

You meant umcompressing error messages, not the windows renaming trouble? I umcompressed/copied all of my 1800-2000 WHDLoad games since the last 4 years under Windows. Only 3-4 games gave me this "wrong name" errors.

Anubis · 02 April 2007, 19:18

ClassicWB is the asnwer. Not that crapy 3.9.

Retro-Nerd · 02 April 2007, 19:44

Just unpacked

Quote:

DragonsLair&EscapeFromSingesCastle_v1.2a_Fast_1360&0980.zip

under a plain OS 3.9/WinUAE with Unarc. I got no requester to overwrite existing files.

keropi · 02 April 2007, 19:56

under a true FFS partition (hardfile) and without any hacks, you cannot have a file named: DragonsLair&EscapeFromSingesCastle_v1.2a_Fast_1360&0980.zip

it is just too lenghty for out-of-the-box FFS in 3.9 .

Mad-Matt · 02 April 2007, 20:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Sorry, this thread is going nowhere. Do what you want, i'm using a plain/unmodified OS 3.9 on a HDF and it works fine. I'm off now. There are better threads on EAB.

well thats constructive lol.

fact is you cant have a mega long file name under ffs real or hardfile. unarcing to ram from a windows folder or such or maybe sfs hardfile to ram is no issue. but such long names can not be saved onto an ffs partition or hardfile.

keropi · 02 April 2007, 20:24

edited my post ... removed some flaming....

ppill · 02 April 2007, 20:30

@keropi
You've got a copy of probably the best filesystem available for the Amiga (PFS) and you're sticking with FFS?! It's really easy to install a new filesystem and it shouldn't take long to move to PFS (if you've got some way to back up your current OS setup). There are so many reasons why FFS sucks big time and 32 characters is just one of them.

Retro-Nerd · 02 April 2007, 20:32

The zip name is mega long, and NOT the preinstalled folder name. I have uncompressed Dragon's Lair under OS3.9 FFS with this folder name.

Quote:

DragonsLairEscapeFast

You talked about umcompressing errors, i got NONE. All is fine and i can play it.

keropi · 02 April 2007, 20:37

you still get it wrong my friend....
on my 1st post I said:

" extra long filenames like: "DragonsLair&EscapeFromSingesCastle_v1.2a_Fast_1360&0980.zip " don't work on amigas without some replacement FileSystem! "
I never said anything about extraction errors!

and the extraction errors we discussed later, are to show you that you cannot extract all games OK in windows...
anyway, no point in continuing that silly debate...

Retro-Nerd · 02 April 2007, 20:45

Yep, our discussion is really silly.

But in this Dragon's Lair case you could safely use the TC. The data file names are short enough.

Quote:

DiskA
DiskB
DiskC
DiskD
DiskE
Escape

keropi · 02 April 2007, 20:46

now if only the game was good to play!

AMIGAZ · 02 April 2007, 20:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anubis

ClassicWB is the asnwer. Not that crapy 3.9.

Eh...you don't get SFS automatically by just using ClassicWB on a real Amiga

02 April 2007, 20:24	#34
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	edited my post ... removed some flaming.... Last edited by keropi; 02 April 2007 at 20:36.

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02 April 2007, 18:50	#22
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	I repeat: the CORRECT AMIGA filename IS NOT pro.i_riska , it is pro.i*riska !!!! transfer to your amiga the TC extracted data, and run the INTRO slave... then tell me what happens.... trust the keropi, I know what I am talking about...

02 April 2007, 18:55	#23
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	He's right Retro-Nerd, you can't unzip it and expect it to work. You won't have the correct filenames.

02 April 2007, 19:01	#25
adolescent Powered by Motorola Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Age: 52 Posts: 1,065	Why not just rename it once it's back on the Amiga?

02 April 2007, 19:02	#27
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	ffs has a 32 chars filename limit... on my amiga (that I have no FS hacks whatsoever) the resulting file had a smaller name and no extension.

02 April 2007, 19:18	#30
Anubis Retro Gamer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Underworld Age: 51 Posts: 4,061	ClassicWB is the asnwer. Not that crapy 3.9.

02 April 2007, 19:56	#32
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	under a true FFS partition (hardfile) and without any hacks, you cannot have a file named: DragonsLair&EscapeFromSingesCastle_v1.2a_Fast_1360&0980.zip it is just too lenghty for out-of-the-box FFS in 3.9 .

02 April 2007, 20:30	#35
ppill CON: artist Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Poland Age: 43 Posts: 1,250	@keropi You've got a copy of probably the best filesystem available for the Amiga (PFS) and you're sticking with FFS?! It's really easy to install a new filesystem and it shouldn't take long to move to PFS (if you've got some way to back up your current OS setup). There are so many reasons why FFS sucks big time and 32 characters is just one of them.

02 April 2007, 20:37	#37
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	you still get it wrong my friend.... on my 1st post I said: " extra long filenames like: "DragonsLair&EscapeFromSingesCastle_v1.2a_Fast_1360&0980.zip " don't work on amigas without some replacement FileSystem! " I never said anything about extraction errors! and the extraction errors we discussed later, are to show you that you cannot extract all games OK in windows... anyway, no point in continuing that silly debate...

02 April 2007, 20:46	#39
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	now if only the game was good to play!

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