MS Dos Games equal or better than Amiga games - Page 4

john4p · 28 September 2010, 12:50

Microprose Formula One Grand Prix (textured road and 25 FPS)

Christian · 28 September 2010, 12:56

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Originally Posted by john4p

Microprose Formula One Grand Prix (textured road and 25 FPS)

Good call

lilalurl · 28 September 2010, 18:53

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Originally Posted by Anakirob

And SuperStardust was better in MSDOS because it didn't have the ridiculous disk accessing which needed MANY, MANY swaps on the Amiga version, even with two external disk drives. But the WHDLoad install fixes that problem, so just play the Amiga version instead.

SS came with a HD install script (IIRC it was on disk 2?).

MazinKaesar · 28 September 2010, 20:22

All SSI Goldbox AD&D Games on DOS where similar on DOS. Only the two later games, Pools of Darkness and Dark Queen of Krynn where a bit better on DOS.

kamelito · 28 September 2010, 20:55

Turrican or Turrican II I don't recall correctly, more colors and smooth scrolling AFAIR.

Zagrebista · 28 October 2010, 22:27

A good rule of thumb is that if a game was published after about 1992, it's better on MS-DOS. From about 1991-92 quite a few MS-DOS titles looked nice with their fancy 256-colour graphics but the sound was dreadful (as an example, look at the MS-DOS version of Eye of the Beholder - lovely graphics, rubbish sound. Thank goodness for the AGA version).

Zagrebista · 28 October 2010, 22:31

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Originally Posted by kamelito

Turrican or Turrican II I don't recall correctly, more colors and smooth scrolling AFAIR.

I've just taken a look at Turrican II on Abandonia and, erm, I don't agree. It looks like the game's been re-imagined as a Saturday morning cartoon.

TCD · 28 October 2010, 22:43

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Originally Posted by Zagrebista

It looks like the game's been re-imagined as a Saturday morning cartoon.

gimbal · 29 October 2010, 14:38

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Originally Posted by Zagrebista

I've just taken a look at Turrican II on Abandonia and, erm, I don't agree. It looks like the game's been re-imagined as a Saturday morning cartoon.

He, that is actually pretty spot on

It went from nicely shaded graphics to flat cartoony graphics. But of a shame actually, it could have been quite a cool port.

AmigaFriend · 29 October 2010, 23:00

What is the best DOSBox frontend for Windows in your opinion?

I would like to give a go in some of the games mentioned here. Thanks.

s2325 · 29 October 2010, 23:15

It's easy without any frontend.

AmigaFriend · 29 October 2010, 23:19

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It's easy without any frontend.

Indeed. And easier still with a frontend. Thanks for your suggestions.

I'm trying DBGL now and later see what D-Fend Reloaded offers.

s2325 · 29 October 2010, 23:22

I think small DOS program DOS Controller (Norton Commander clone) is enough for file handling. For me nothing more is required because default DOS Box settings are accurate for most games.

Madcrow · 30 October 2010, 02:35

Holy thread necromancy, Batman, this one sure came back from the dead... Anyways, I tend to think that games are best on whatever platform they were initially designed for. Thus games like Team 17's were best on Amiga, even though they were from the era when PC had already become more powerful, but games like LucasArts' which were designed for PC tended to be better on PC.

AmigaFriend · 30 October 2010, 02:42

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Originally Posted by s2325

I think small DOS program DOS Controller (Norton Commander clone) is enough for file handling. For me nothing more is required because default DOS Box settings are accurate for most games.

Yes I see your point and the reason for that. But I don't like to fiddle with DOS programs and a point and click interface for me, is the way to go. Well, Workbench spoiled me on that matter, way back in 1988.

D-Fend Reloaded is really powerful and for me, the final choice. Easy install of zipped games, every Dosbox setting customizable. A breeze to use, you can forget you're using DOS, really.

Enough OT on this thread already!

Unknown_K · 30 October 2010, 16:04

Bah, nothing beats a 386DX/40 or 486DX/66 with a good MIDI card and SB for DOS gaming.

Leo42 · 01 November 2010, 09:32

Here are some games that I can think about...

- prince of persia (Amiga version was slloowww)
- Pinball Illusions (didn't have a chance to play other ports but this one is perfect: perfect scrolling when run under true DOS, same music,...)
- Furry of the Furries: perfect scrolling
- Flashback
- AnotherWorld (I would say this one is on par)
- All adventure/RPG that were released on both but came with 256 colours, more animations, faster,... on the PC (LucasArts classics: Monkey Island 1/2, Indy series, Eye of the Beholder, King's Quest VI, Innocent until Caught, Future Wars, Simon, Beneath (although the Amiga version was a wonderful assembly port: fast and beautiful,...)
- James Pond 2
- Some Team17 ports also came with perfect scrolling/animation but I don't remember about the Music (Project X, SuperFrog,...)... close to on par again

I guess that by 91-93 most PC games had superior graphics/animation but choppy scrolling and not so good sound but from 94 PC was much better for everything... And you didn't have to choose between music *or* sound as you did in a lot of Amiga games.

If you look carefully at the history, from 92 lots of games were PC-only (simulations, Alone in the Dark,.. lots of nice games that couldn't be developped for the Amiga) while other games had PC port. The market was already lost.

At this time I was a big Amiga fan and only recently I discovered all the gems I couldn't play because I was so close-minded... But better late than never

Predseda · 01 November 2010, 11:37

Dune and Feebles and Fiends 1 were great for PC. I played Amiga versions, though

Freakyweakywoo · 01 November 2010, 15:29

Yeah, some post 92 DOS games were better, but setting them up was a pain in the ass. Amiga was just, chuck in the floppy and play. AMIGA > PC <place anti-trolling "IMO" here>

Leo42 · 01 November 2010, 19:11

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Originally Posted by Freakyweakywoo

Yeah, some post 92 DOS games were better, but setting them up was a pain in the ass. Amiga was just, chuck in the floppy and play. AMIGA > PC <place anti-trolling "IMO" here>

True, but the thread isn't about which one is the easiest to setup... So this is irrelevant here

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28 September 2010, 12:50	#61
john4p Competition Moderator Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 4,756	Microprose Formula One Grand Prix (textured road and 25 FPS)

28 September 2010, 20:22	#64
MazinKaesar Super Robot Pilot Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Modena (Italy) Age: 48 Posts: 870	All SSI Goldbox AD&D Games on DOS where similar on DOS. Only the two later games, Pools of Darkness and Dark Queen of Krynn where a bit better on DOS.

28 September 2010, 20:55	#65
kamelito Zone Friend Join Date: May 2006 Location: France Posts: 1,801	Turrican or Turrican II I don't recall correctly, more colors and smooth scrolling AFAIR.

28 October 2010, 22:27	#66
Zagrebista Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Glasgow Posts: 24	A good rule of thumb is that if a game was published after about 1992, it's better on MS-DOS. From about 1991-92 quite a few MS-DOS titles looked nice with their fancy 256-colour graphics but the sound was dreadful (as an example, look at the MS-DOS version of Eye of the Beholder - lovely graphics, rubbish sound. Thank goodness for the AGA version).

29 October 2010, 23:00	#70
AmigaFriend Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sesimbra/Portugal Posts: 1,462	What is the best DOSBox frontend for Windows in your opinion? I would like to give a go in some of the games mentioned here. Thanks.

29 October 2010, 23:15	#71
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	It's easy without any frontend.

29 October 2010, 23:22	#73
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	I think small DOS program DOS Controller (Norton Commander clone) is enough for file handling. For me nothing more is required because default DOS Box settings are accurate for most games.

30 October 2010, 02:35	#74
Madcrow Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 228	Holy thread necromancy, Batman, this one sure came back from the dead... Anyways, I tend to think that games are best on whatever platform they were initially designed for. Thus games like Team 17's were best on Amiga, even though they were from the era when PC had already become more powerful, but games like LucasArts' which were designed for PC tended to be better on PC.

30 October 2010, 16:04	#76
Unknown_K Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio/USA Age: 55 Posts: 1,380	Bah, nothing beats a 386DX/40 or 486DX/66 with a good MIDI card and SB for DOS gaming.

01 November 2010, 09:32	#77
Leo42 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Paris Posts: 134	Here are some games that I can think about... - prince of persia (Amiga version was slloowww) - Pinball Illusions (didn't have a chance to play other ports but this one is perfect: perfect scrolling when run under true DOS, same music,...) - Furry of the Furries: perfect scrolling - Flashback - AnotherWorld (I would say this one is on par) - All adventure/RPG that were released on both but came with 256 colours, more animations, faster,... on the PC (LucasArts classics: Monkey Island 1/2, Indy series, Eye of the Beholder, King's Quest VI, Innocent until Caught, Future Wars, Simon, Beneath (although the Amiga version was a wonderful assembly port: fast and beautiful,...) - James Pond 2 - Some Team17 ports also came with perfect scrolling/animation but I don't remember about the Music (Project X, SuperFrog,...)... close to on par again I guess that by 91-93 most PC games had superior graphics/animation but choppy scrolling and not so good sound but from 94 PC was much better for everything... And you didn't have to choose between music or sound as you did in a lot of Amiga games. If you look carefully at the history, from 92 lots of games were PC-only (simulations, Alone in the Dark,.. lots of nice games that couldn't be developped for the Amiga) while other games had PC port. The market was already lost. At this time I was a big Amiga fan and only recently I discovered all the gems I couldn't play because I was so close-minded... But better late than never

01 November 2010, 11:37	#78
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,546	Dune and Feebles and Fiends 1 were great for PC. I played Amiga versions, though

01 November 2010, 15:29	#79
Freakyweakywoo (c) killergorilla 2007 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: United States Posts: 276	Yeah, some post 92 DOS games were better, but setting them up was a pain in the ass. Amiga was just, chuck in the floppy and play. AMIGA > PC <place anti-trolling "IMO" here>

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