project-x best version ?

turrican3 · 11 November 2010, 23:29

hi everyone,
i just want to know which version of project-x is the best ?
Why ? And what's the difference between the versions ?

Amiga Forever · 11 November 2010, 23:32

I would go for Project x Specail Edition because it is easy than Project X(hard game)

Retroplay · 11 November 2010, 23:56

The 4 disk version without a doubt.

The not so "Special Edition" should have been named "Lite Edition" if you ask me.
Level 1 and 2 has been shortened a good deal and the final bomb run level and outro is nowhere to be found.

s2325 · 12 November 2010, 00:00

Also music is slightly changed.

Leo42 · 12 November 2010, 06:04

The original version is more a technical demo than a real game: gameplay is way too hard and most players will get stuck to level 2, if they ever get there...

A lot of Amiga games were like this: too hard, not so much fun playing them.

I would say the SE version too.

Anyone tried the DOS version as well ? Looked like a good conversion by then: is it based over the original or SE version ?

Retroplay · 12 November 2010, 08:38

I really never understood the "too hard problem" about this game.

You just need memorize the levels as the baddies always attacks in the same way.

DOS version is based on SE but it's not as good as the Amiga version.
Check the zone for the DOS CD image.

Jerry · 12 November 2010, 10:07

I would go with the original version, too. As for difficulty:
I remember when I first got a copy of Project-X, the friend who did the copy only copied the first two disks and said, I'd never need the following ones. You can imagine my disappointment when I finally killed the 2nd world boss.

Mainly the difficulty comes from the fact, that the weapons are degraded when you do not pay attention and lose a life. A bit unbalanced in that respect, imho. Sometimes you simply do not have a fair chance to get proper weaponry again if you die in a difficult passage (there are quite a few).

As a sidenote. X2 the PSX successor is not too bad either, especially in two player mode. Unfortunately it does not work properly on the slim ps2.

daxb · 12 November 2010, 14:34

Would be cool if Psygore could adapt the trainer from SE version to original version or weapon select feature.

Zetr0 · 13 November 2010, 01:51

I have to admit I like both versions!

the SE is an easier version thats no doubt - its kinda like the popcorn version to the full-course meal that is the original.

so pending on your mood one can kick-it old-skool-hard for that propper check me out on level 3 buzz - or just enjoy the amazing ECS eyecandy of the SE version =)

jotd · 13 November 2010, 02:00

SE version is globally easier but they fixed some bugs: level 2 boss cannot be defeated anymore by flying to a safe spot and kill it with homers

Fabie · 13 November 2010, 04:11

btw,
thinking about one game is 3 disks and the other 4 disks
does the project x normal version contains more levels than se version?

jotd · 13 November 2010, 04:57

SE is protected RN-track format = $1800 bytes per track: 160*$1800*3= 3 megs
Orig is RN-dostrack = $1600 bytes per track: 160*$1600*4 = 3,6 megs (there may be some spare tracks on the last disk)

SE is missing enemies (AFAIR at least the missiles from level 1). Maybe the end is shorter I don't remember (so hard that you rarely saw the end levels)

Project-X is one of the rare OCS games (alongside superfrog) to take advantage of 2 megabytes. My old A500 had 1.5 Megs of slow installed, the game used it to avoid loading. Team 17 ruled.

turrican3 · 13 November 2010, 05:22

ok ,
i have to put the two in my amigacab,
i wanted to choose but you convince to put the two.
Thank you guys.

Fabie · 13 November 2010, 05:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by jotd

SE is protected RN-track format = $1800 bytes per track: 160*$1800*3= 3 megs
Orig is RN-dostrack = $1600 bytes per track: 160*$1600*4 = 3,6 megs (there may be some spare tracks on the last disk)

SE is missing enemies (AFAIR at least the missiles from level 1). Maybe the end is shorter I don't remember (so hard that you rarely saw the end levels)

Project-X is one of the rare OCS games (alongside superfrog) to take advantage of 2 megabytes. My old A500 had 1.5 Megs of slow installed, the game used it to avoid loading. Team 17 ruled.

there are lots ocs games that make use of extra memory

I remember now

desert strike = with 2 mb have more sounds
jungle strike = idem that desert
walker = more sounds
Mortal Kombat 2 = more sounds
Pinkie = more sounds
Monkey island 1 & 2 = avoid loading

turrican3 · 13 November 2010, 06:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabie

there are lots ocs games that make use of extra memory

I remember now

desert strike = with 2 mb have more sounds
jungle strike = idem that desert
walker = more sounds
Mortal Kombat 2 = more sounds
Pinkie = more sounds
Monkey island 1 & 2 = avoid loading

is there a list somewhere of all these games ?
Or perhaps we should try to create this list.

hitchhikr · 13 November 2010, 08:24

You're better off playing Apidya, Disposable Hero and eventually X-Out & Z-Out instead, those are proper horizontal scrolling shmups.

Retroplay · 13 November 2010, 13:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabie

btw,
thinking about one game is 3 disks and the other 4 disks
does the project x normal version contains more levels than se version?

Yup.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retroplay

The not so "Special Edition" should have been named "Lite Edition" if you ask me.
Level 1 and 2 has been shortened a good deal and the final bomb run level and outro is nowhere to be found.

lilalurl · 13 November 2010, 21:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by turrican3

is there a list somewhere of all these games ?
Or perhaps we should try to create this list.

No such list as far as I am aware, so I will need to start a new thread.

This thread however will provide some good initial help in setting up a list:
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=44073

Jimbo · 14 November 2010, 10:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by turrican3

is there a list somewhere of all these games ?
Or perhaps we should try to create this list.

+1 for a list, would be good. Or maybe the info could be added to HOL. Then we just have to select extra memory within a search.

Christian · 15 November 2010, 02:08

I liked the original music better. Bigger bass

11 November 2010, 23:29	#1
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	project-x best version ? hi everyone, i just want to know which version of project-x is the best ? Why ? And what's the difference between the versions ?

13 November 2010, 04:57	#12
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,161	SE is protected RN-track format = $1800 bytes per track: 160$18003= 3 megs Orig is RN-dostrack = $1600 bytes per track: 160$16004 = 3,6 megs (there may be some spare tracks on the last disk) SE is missing enemies (AFAIR at least the missiles from level 1). Maybe the end is shorter I don't remember (so hard that you rarely saw the end levels) Project-X is one of the rare OCS games (alongside superfrog) to take advantage of 2 megabytes. My old A500 had 1.5 Megs of slow installed, the game used it to avoid loading. Team 17 ruled. Last edited by jotd; 13 November 2010 at 05:02.

13 November 2010, 08:24	#16
hitchhikr Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: somewhere else Posts: 511	You're better off playing Apidya, Disposable Hero and eventually X-Out & Z-Out instead, those are proper horizontal scrolling shmups. Last edited by hitchhikr; 13 November 2010 at 14:57.

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11 November 2010, 23:32	#2
Amiga Forever Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: UK Posts: 228	I would go for Project x Specail Edition because it is easy than Project X(hard game)

11 November 2010, 23:56	#3
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Denmark Age: 49 Posts: 4,079	The 4 disk version without a doubt. The not so "Special Edition" should have been named "Lite Edition" if you ask me. Level 1 and 2 has been shortened a good deal and the final bomb run level and outro is nowhere to be found.

12 November 2010, 00:00	#4
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	Also music is slightly changed.

12 November 2010, 06:04	#5
Leo42 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Paris Posts: 134	The original version is more a technical demo than a real game: gameplay is way too hard and most players will get stuck to level 2, if they ever get there... A lot of Amiga games were like this: too hard, not so much fun playing them. I would say the SE version too. Anyone tried the DOS version as well ? Looked like a good conversion by then: is it based over the original or SE version ?

12 November 2010, 08:38	#6
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Denmark Age: 49 Posts: 4,079	I really never understood the "too hard problem" about this game. You just need memorize the levels as the baddies always attacks in the same way. DOS version is based on SE but it's not as good as the Amiga version. Check the zone for the DOS CD image.

12 November 2010, 10:07	#7
Jerry Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 210	I would go with the original version, too. As for difficulty: I remember when I first got a copy of Project-X, the friend who did the copy only copied the first two disks and said, I'd never need the following ones. You can imagine my disappointment when I finally killed the 2nd world boss. Mainly the difficulty comes from the fact, that the weapons are degraded when you do not pay attention and lose a life. A bit unbalanced in that respect, imho. Sometimes you simply do not have a fair chance to get proper weaponry again if you die in a difficult passage (there are quite a few). As a sidenote. X2 the PSX successor is not too bad either, especially in two player mode. Unfortunately it does not work properly on the slim ps2.

12 November 2010, 14:34	#8
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,303	Would be cool if Psygore could adapt the trainer from SE version to original version or weapon select feature.

13 November 2010, 01:51	#9
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	I have to admit I like both versions! the SE is an easier version thats no doubt - its kinda like the popcorn version to the full-course meal that is the original. so pending on your mood one can kick-it old-skool-hard for that propper check me out on level 3 buzz - or just enjoy the amazing ECS eyecandy of the SE version =)

13 November 2010, 02:00	#10
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,161	SE version is globally easier but they fixed some bugs: level 2 boss cannot be defeated anymore by flying to a safe spot and kill it with homers

13 November 2010, 04:11	#11
Fabie Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: France Posts: 478	btw, thinking about one game is 3 disks and the other 4 disks does the project x normal version contains more levels than se version?

13 November 2010, 05:22	#13
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	ok , i have to put the two in my amigacab, i wanted to choose but you convince to put the two. Thank you guys.

15 November 2010, 02:08	#20
Christian Zone Friend Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gloucestershire Age: 51 Posts: 218	I liked the original music better. Bigger bass

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