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Multi-Disk games that only support 1 disk drive
Is there a way to find out which multi disk amiga games do not work with multiple disk drives and require 1 Disk drive only to work?
For example; Shadow of the Beast II (1990)(Psygnosis)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr Angels].adf Shadow of the Beast II (1990)(Psygnosis)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr Angels].adf Disk 2 must be swapped into DF0: after the intro. |
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There was some crack of Wrath of the Demon which require disk change without requester.
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IF we know which games work with multiple disk drives then we would know which games won't work with more then 1 disk drive? But not sure if it is possible to find out at all?
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Interesting topic for this thread and one worth finding out about IMHO. It will probably be quite tedious to compile a list of multi-disk games that do not support anything but df0: Very occasionally the manuals for games will state that additional floppy devices are not supported. Game manuals usually don't include such info., though, and game players end up finding out the hard way though old-fashioned trial-and-error [i.e. disk prompts popping up when disk 2 etc. isn't inserted in df0:]. On top of that, like s2325 said, occasionally games (even uncracked) won't even throw up a requester for a disk to be inserted and will just sit there with a blank screen like your Amiga has frozen up. Anyway, if enough people are interested....then such info. can be compiled like people here have done in this thread for games that utilise extra memory: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=65574 Last edited by DrBong; 05 June 2017 at 21:26. |
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Here is a list of games from openretro.org where floppy_drive_count is set to 1.
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I need it for pre configuring ADF Games in RetroPie on mu Raspberry Pie 3. Ive competed setting up all whdload games with it now need to add ADF Games that dont have a whdload install.
Thus requiring some list that shows which games are compatible with only one drive. This will stop me from putting disk 2 in df1: which creates another game name entry in emulation station. |
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I've done all the hard work for you; which has taken me 10+ years to get perfect ...as Dr.Bong mentioned; you only get to know this by tedious work; old-fashioned trial-and-error. You won't get a better base but there's no way in hell I'm going through all of my 1750+ configs to provide you with a list of what you require... That's your job, especially as it's for your own personal project. I've done enough already All the information you require is at your finger tips, you just need to sift through it instead of asking others to do it for you |
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Anyway it seems that its practically impossible unless you go through each and every multiple disk game and try them yourself (And that is playing untill your prompted for Disk 2, which could take ages) the task is way to big for anyone to do, or way to tedious. |
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...see above again; not much really left to do on your part then is there? |
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...and that's even before finding / testing 100% working .ADFs from the huge TOSEC collection. Let's face it; that's the really difficult part... not working out if one or more disk drives are supported (though it is important for a perfect as possible collection)... That's why we've assisted each other for more than a decade now. |
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1) Eliminating compilations and unreleased games from the 3,953 games that don't have a WHDLoad install leaves you with 3,189 games. 2) Of these 3,189 games, there are 2,360 one-disk games that can be discarded. You are then left with 829 multi-disk games. 3) Of the remaining 829 multi-disk games, you can eliminate the 250 or so CDTV, CD32 and AmigaCD games. You are then left with under 600 multi-disk games to check. If you are only interested in commercial games, say, then eliminating PD/shareware etc. games will reduce the total even further. If that all makes sense, how does the task of testing multi-disk games sound to you now?! Hopefully much less daunting...... |
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Yes that sounds much less daunting. Not sure if ill have time to do it. But at least I have a lower number to test. The hard part is getting to the part of the game when it needs disk2 that could be short or long.
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If the game has cheats or a trainer with level skipper then use that until the next disk gets loaded from or you're asked to insert into DF0: |
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For strategy games like 1497: Five Years After (2 disks) God help me |
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I'm sure I already gave you the disks / required config for this game... Just load / look in the config
...but yes, strategy games could be a pain in the butt without cheats / level codes / trainers Also, at the end of the day it's not too much trouble if you have Disk 1 in DF0:, Disk 2 in DF1: and then get asked to put Disk 2 in DF0:. You just eject Disk 2 from DF1: and insert into DF0: Last edited by DamienD; 07 June 2017 at 01:35. |
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I will continue to use your database of configs, and mess around with other games until I am prompted with "Insert Disk 2" I guess the only other lazy way is configure games on multiple drives. Then if ever your prompted to swap disk 2 into df0 then do so. Otherwise if they swap automatically to df1 then it's all good. Last edited by ransom1122; 07 June 2017 at 01:54. |
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I've started doing my own list of what games do or don't need multiple disk drives
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Also add the disks into the "Disk Swapper"; makes changing disks in drives very simple i.e. via keystrokes |
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Are you using Gamebase Amiga as a base set ? This seems like a serious amount of work for very little gain. You can swap disks with the diskswapper in WinUAE / FS-UAE (like Damien just said and beat me to it). Also, some 2 disk games are technically 1 disk because they can be booted from disk 2. For instance, Killing Game Show has the intro on disk 1 but you can boot straight to the game from disk 2.
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