27 September 2007, 09:55 | #41 |
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an almost painless linux
you might want to give simply mepis a try for a pretty painless and usefull install of linux. It's a free download, (liveCD with installer) and comes with a good deal of usefull sofware. I have a server and a laptop running it, and have no complaints. I still prefer the amigaOS [real or emulated] to any other.
I also have to use XP and Vista daily. I think that linux is much better than windows and that Open Office is very close to MS Office. |
27 September 2007, 19:59 | #42 |
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Your right reloader12, we run Linux here on a few machines and it is progressing well.
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Anyway, my point i that there is definitely ludditism amoung some Amiga fans. Nothing wrong with still using it, but not as a main computer. That is just sad. |
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02 October 2007, 22:03 | #45 |
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Amiga OS (a.k.a. Amiga Workbench) really does kick Windows/Linux/MacOS's ass. Amiga OS is blindingly quick on very limited hardware, where as Windows is sh!t slow on decent hardware (depends on version). Linux is far too complex for most home users (although I'm a dab hand at Linux - I work in IT so I should be) and Mac OS is just a customised Linux made specifically for Apple's funky looking machines.
Long live AmigaOS - I find AmigaOS's capabilities fine for my day to day activities. |
02 October 2007, 22:13 | #46 |
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All the operating systems are bad, even AmigaOs is getting really old. It's time for something new (and do it on 68k Amiga first!).
Linux is still good for browsing the web though (few viruses). Keeps your xp installation nice and safe. And can we at least have fast software? Bad os' are more then enough suffering to endure. And happy Amiga using! |
03 October 2007, 08:37 | #47 |
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[QUOTE=Thorham;362078]All the operating systems are bad, even AmigaOs is getting really old. It's time for something new (and do it on 68k Amiga first!)./QUOTE]
Pity that Austex Softwares Nueron hasnt materialised. That could have been a Coldfire Amiga-a-like. Although I use Winblows I would like something non-Wintel to use.... (and no not a Mac!) |
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How can you make software witch is so slow, that equivalent software on a computer that is a 100 times slower is not JUST faster, but much, much, much faster? This sort of thing is insane! So long live Amiga! |
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And any decent Windows editor could've done that too (I've had Windows 98 on the same computer before -- long ago -- and yes I have edited multi-megabyte files with it). So, meh! |
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04 October 2007, 16:20 | #51 |
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I enjoy working with the AmigaOS. Give me an Amiga with DOpus4, and I'm a happy bunny. Windows..... I use it, but mostly because I play World of Warcraft, and since my accelerator died, I can't use the Amiga for much of what I feel forced to use the PC for. And let's face it, even though the Windows software gives you the creeps in how slow it is (even on decently speedy computer otherwise) there ARE things that are now far surpassed the Amiga side. Firefox and Opera, for browsers. OpenOffice vs Finalwriter/Wordworth. mIRC vs AmIRC... uhm, no I retract that last one, AmIRC STILL kicks arse |
04 October 2007, 16:50 | #52 |
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Yes, there are things you can't do on an Amiga, but that is just because the AmigaOS version of the software has not been written and/or because the hardware that AmigaOS is being run on is underpowered for the task. Neither of these is a problem with AmigaOS itself.
Clearly OS3.9 is the best operating system when compared against Windoze, Linux, etc. if it is run on comparably spec'd hardware and running programs for which native AmigaOS versions are available. |
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I thought this thread would go on forever, but Minuous has settled it once and for all. There is no doubting the fact now that AmigaOS is better than Windoze [sic], Linux and so on since he has said so. No need for facts, since you can't prove it. Thus it's perfect. Had he not posted, the world might have come to an end. Praise be! |
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04 October 2007, 17:09 | #54 |
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P-J, if you care to read his post:
What kind of hardware would be a PC EQUIVALENT of the most powerful real Amiga? If we choose to not consider the PPC, but go with an 060-75MHz, then I'ld say you need a PC with AT LEAST a P-133 to be able to do things faster, BUT you can't use WinXP, you'll have to resort to Win3.11 or Win95. If you insist on using WinXP, then you'll need at least P3-900 and loads of RAM, to run the OS at suficient speeds for comfort. At least, THAT is what _I_ made of Minuous' post. Because he said "comparably specced hardware" not "the best hardware possible, finely tuned and optimized" |
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Right, If you really read my reply, you'll know that's my problem, getting hold of decent editors, witch are fast on any machine, under winxp.
Also, PSPad loads relatively fast, but then search and replace is a huge pig... What I mean is: CygnusEd is always very fast on amigas. Next time, just write down a list of good, fast editors, thank you very much. |
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I did. He basically said the few things that AmigaOS can do well it does better than Windows, Linux and so on.
That's not true first of all. Then he said that OS3.9 is categorically better than Windows on deprecated, useless and now overpriced hardware. Which might be true (I don't know) but is pointless. (P.S. Care to prove your theory that you need a 133MHz PC to outstrip a 75MHz Amiga? If not, then, well, 'blah'.) |
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Well I use Ultra-Edit, I find it fast, feature-rich and awesome.
I use it to write all my AmigaE code, then compile it within WinUAE. I don't write the code in WinUAE because I find it a pain in the arse |
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I'll do my usual business..... My A500, running at 7MHz, ompletely left my brothers 386/25 (with 8MB memory) in the dust. My A1200 running at 50MHz (with the help of a 030/50 accelerator) left his 486 DX2-66 in the dust. I've never had an 060 myself, but judging from these two, and the fact that the CPU is doing all the work on the PC, while the Amiga leaves quite alot to it's custom chips, leaves me to believe a P133 should be needed to have a realatively similar performance to an 060/75. This, however, does not take into account that there are programs that uses the CPU only (lha, for example) which of course benefitts from the faster CPU. But overall... I found PaintShopPro 4 to be a pain to use on a P133 running Win95, for example... the computer was simply too slow. |
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I said 'care to prove it', not 'care to post some anecdotal evidence'. I feel I was quite clear on that point. Oh well.
My C64 is faster than your Amiga, because my brother said so. |
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