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Old 18 May 2012, 13:59   #1
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monitor Is it completely knackered

My unit just fell of the wall is my monitor knackered?
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Old 18 May 2012, 14:18   #2
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Most likely something simple like broken connections or damaged circuit board.

Problem is missing vertical scanning (no signal to vertical coil around the tube). Whole image is compressed to single very bright line.

Tube is probably fine (but damage like warped dot mask may only be visible after vertical is fixed), high voltage circuitry is fine.

DO NOT USE IT! Turn the brightness down immediately or phosphor will burn. Very bright line can become very dark line, permanently.
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Old 18 May 2012, 14:48   #3
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Thanks Toni

I'll open it up to see if there's anything visible
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Old 18 May 2012, 15:10   #4
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Thanks Toni

I'll open it up to see if there's anything visible
My bet is the lotp or the lotp transistor.
Toni is right, looks like line scanning fault.

Check the Line Output Transistor for visable damage. If you have a multi-meter, check the pins of transistor to see if its short circuit.
Could be the Line Output Transformer has gone and taken out the Transistor.
Be careful though as they can store voltage on the caps, which can give you a nasty belt (trust me, ).
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Old 18 May 2012, 15:42   #5
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My bet is the lotp or the lotp transistor.
No, it can't be LOPT. LOPT creates both horizontal scanning and high voltage. Obviously both horizontal and high voltage is present

Check vertical coil wires and PCB around the coil connector that is _not_ near big and strange looking transformer.
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No, it can't be LOPT. LOPT creates both horizontal scanning and high voltage. Obviously both horizontal and high voltage is present

Check vertical coil wires and PCB around the coil connector that is _not_ near big and strange looking transformer.
Doh, you are correct. Been out of it for awhile, . Really miss fixing consumer electronics.

Frame collapse is what I was supposed to be thinking off.
So would be worth checking the Frame circuit. Could be frame IC dead or a feed to it, could be something as simple as dry joints.

I think Toni is talking about the Tube neck board?
Be nice to see a manual, another think I miss, working through circuit diagrams to find faults.
Nothing like a manual folding out into a massive page on the desk.
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cheers for all the info

Just clearing everything up then I'll get the monitor out onto the kitchen table for some space so I can have a good look inside Staying positive hopefully can fix it

Meant to say the model is a Idek Iiyama MF-5017
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Old 18 May 2012, 20:59   #8
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Hi cant see any visible damage, maybe if someone could have a look and point me in the right direction?

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https://picasaweb.google.com/1099617...eat=directlink

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Hi cant see any visible damage, maybe if someone could have a look and point me in the right direction?

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https://picasaweb.google.com/1099617...eat=directlink

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First sugguestion is check for dry joints (some cases arching marks) on the board (solder side).
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Old 19 May 2012, 19:29   #10
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Disconnect vertical coil connector and use DMM to measure resistance (should be quite small, 50 ohms or less I think). Confirms if coil is bad.

But I don't think the coil can get damaged so easily.
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Old 20 May 2012, 00:56   #11
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Thanks

I'm setting up a table in the spare room so that I can strip it all down and spend the time working on it without it getting in the way as its on the kitchen table at the moment and there seem to be a lot of dismantling to do just to get right in about it

I pick up localy a 21" iiyama vision master 502 its huge I wasn't sure if anything could be used from it and it was only £5

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Probably not a yoke problem as has been established, it's just copper wound around a metal core after all. Most likely you have broken solder joints around the vertical deflection circuit.
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I pick up localy a 21" iiyama vision master 502 its huge I wasn't sure if anything could be used from it and it was only £5

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Very nice I've trying to get hold of their 'touch-screen' version for ages (for my youngest), crazy prices on ebay
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just to update, I tried re-soldering the joints on the vertical ic chip which didn't work so I've ordered a new ic chip hopefully that will fix it
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just to update, I tried re-soldering the joints on the vertical ic chip which didn't work so I've ordered a new ic chip hopefully that will fix it
Its also worth having a good visual inspection of all boards.
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