A1200/A600 4xIDE Buffered IDE Interface from AMIGA KIT - Page 2

Gordon · 02 May 2020, 20:02

Hi Amigakit, sorry to thread jack but didn’t get email response. Please Can you confirm this is in stock? I’m wary becuase of no photo
http://amigakit.amiga.store/product_...oducts_id=1026

demolition · 02 May 2020, 20:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by E-Penguin

It should not come as a surprise that computing has moved on some in the last 30 years or so...

And here I thought the original Amiga design was perfect and would never be surpassed.

amigakit.com · 02 May 2020, 20:44

@Gordon

In stock, Ill make sure photo fixed next week

Thanks

fitzsteve · 07 May 2020, 23:17

@Amigakit I got my 4xIDE and FastIDE adapter today, thanks for the fast service.

With the Gayle adapter connected and enabled it will not boot my OS3.1.4 installation (with Best Workbench) stalls after a slight bit if HDD activity (no guru)

I have an A1200 with 3.1.4 Roms and 8mb Ram Card. 16gb CF card prepped with PFS3 AIO.

I had a spare 4gb CF kicking around with OS3.9 on SFS, this does boot but I'm getting a lot of SFS errors. I will check the integrity of the CF on another machine.

Have tried to re-seat the Gayle adapter a few times.

Any advice? The link for the software/wiki is not working so I've not been able to download the software at this stage.

Cheers!

Edit:

The 4gb CF is corrupted now, I will try prepping it again.

fitzsteve · 08 May 2020, 00:22

It seems the Gayle adapter is killing my CF cards! I've been unable to get the 4gb CF working at all even in WinUAE, I moved to another spare 2gb CF card and set that up with 3.1.4 in WinUAE.

It worked fine under WinUAE (PFS3AIO) so I moved it to the Amiga and it booted, I thought yay, I clicked on Workbench and a PFS3 requester came up to say it was trying to read outside the partition, now the CF is corrupt too, hopefully recoverable.

I'll raise a ticket as maybe there's an issue with the adapter or my setup?

edit: looks like I've been able to recover the CF cards with Diskpart/Clean and forcing a new image onto them. I'm glad the 16gb CF didn't boot as I've spent quite a bit of time setting that up!

Is it just not compatible with 3.1.4?

spudje · 08 May 2020, 08:57

Will the 4xIDE (without FastIDE) work on a vampire (v500 2+)? Or would an unbuffered version even work?

fitzsteve · 08 May 2020, 15:20

I replaced the 3.1.4 Roms with a spare set of 3.0 and the system seems to run reliably now however there's no speed increase by default and the link to the software doesn't work?

wiki.amiga.org/4xide

Have sent Amigakit an email so hopefully once I get my hands om the software I can test the other PIO modes

amigakit.com · 09 May 2020, 17:32

Version 1.5 of the 4xIDE software archive is now available to download from the official Amiga.org Wiki:

http://wiki.amiga.org/4xide

This software is for users of the A1200/A600 4xIDE Buffered IDE Interface and also FastIDE A1200 adapter for 4xIDE interface

indigolemon · 10 May 2020, 17:51

Just installed mine today. Working out of the box in my A1200 tower with 3.1.4 ROMs.

Installed the software to tweak a few settings, and things are definitely feeling more snappy with regard to disk access. Also very pleased it works great with all the other hardware I have in there

wiz12 · 10 May 2020, 20:29

How fast does this interface go, up to PIO4? and what are the speeds like according to Sysinfo?

Also have you tested it with a CD drive too?

indigolemon · 10 May 2020, 22:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiz12

How fast does this interface go, up to PIO4? and what are the speeds like according to Sysinfo?

Also have you tested it with a CD drive too?

PIO4 yes. I've been getting about 2.4 to 2.7 Megabytes/sec on my machine. It's also working fine with a DVD/RW on the secondary channel.

Note that I used DriveSpeed to measure this rather than Sysinfo, as it seems more consistent.

[edit] after more mucking about, have achieved the following in SysSpeed:

Spymate · 02 June 2020, 21:39

Is there a solution to the problem when installing AmigaOS 3.9?

When I upgrade my WB3.1 to amigaOS 3.9 I get an error that I need a newer version of IDEfix.
This problem also occurs when I create an emergency disk.

I am using the latest version of idefix97 from aminet.

AMike · 02 June 2020, 21:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by indigolemon

PIO4 yes. I've been getting about 2.4 to 2.7 Megabytes/sec on my machine.

Hmm...that's not really fast. Which CPU do you use? Is it faster without the DVDROM? What I've never seen before is that the write speed is faster than the read speed.

Are any other user here?

demolition · 02 June 2020, 23:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spymate

Is there a solution to the problem when installing AmigaOS 3.9?

When I upgrade my WB3.1 to amigaOS 3.9 I get an error that I need a newer version of IDEfix.

Why do you need IDEfix '97? If it is to enable the 2nd IDE channel, then the 4xIDE software from AmigaKit should do that: http://wiki.amiga.org/index.php?titl..._IDE_Interface.

fitzsteve · 02 June 2020, 23:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by demolition

Why do you need IDEfix '97? If it is to enable the 2nd IDE channel, then the 4xIDE software from AmigaKit should do that: http://wiki.amiga.org/index.php?titl..._IDE_Interface.

the software is set the PIO speed only

FOL · 02 June 2020, 23:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitzsteve

the software is set the PIO speed only

Not true, the 4xide program in C: activates the second channel.
Just running gui will not enable second channel.

Spymate · 03 June 2020, 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by demolition

Why do you need IDEfix '97? If it is to enable the 2nd IDE channel, then the 4xIDE software from AmigaKit should do that: http://wiki.amiga.org/index.php?titl..._IDE_Interface.

Is not going to work, first you need to install idefix or it will not see the interface. The amigakit software is only for interface settings.

indigolemon · 03 June 2020, 21:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spymate

Is not going to work, first you need to install idefix or it will not see the interface. The amigakit software is only for interface settings.

No, as FOL said:

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOL

Not true, the 4xide program in C: activates the second channel.

It should add lines to your Startup-Sequence that enables the 2nd channel. That's what it did for me.

chrisfi · 03 August 2020, 20:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitzsteve

@Amigakit I got my 4xIDE and FastIDE adapter today, thanks for the fast service.

How fast is fast?

I ordered one over two weeks ago and the order is still stuck in 'pending' with three more steps to move through before it gets posted.

Its showing as in stock then and now, so not sure why the delay.

Anyone else experience long delays receiving their Amiga Kit?

Thanks

daxb · 03 August 2020, 22:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisfi

Anyone else experience long delays receiving their Amiga Kit?

From time to time people ask this question.

08 May 2020, 00:22	#25
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	It seems the Gayle adapter is killing my CF cards! I've been unable to get the 4gb CF working at all even in WinUAE, I moved to another spare 2gb CF card and set that up with 3.1.4 in WinUAE. It worked fine under WinUAE (PFS3AIO) so I moved it to the Amiga and it booted, I thought yay, I clicked on Workbench and a PFS3 requester came up to say it was trying to read outside the partition, now the CF is corrupt too, hopefully recoverable. I'll raise a ticket as maybe there's an issue with the adapter or my setup? edit: looks like I've been able to recover the CF cards with Diskpart/Clean and forcing a new image onto them. I'm glad the 16gb CF didn't boot as I've spent quite a bit of time setting that up! Is it just not compatible with 3.1.4? Last edited by fitzsteve; 08 May 2020 at 00:47.

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02 May 2020, 20:02	#21
Gordon Settler Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Serf City Posts: 1,760	Hi Amigakit, sorry to thread jack but didn’t get email response. Please Can you confirm this is in stock? I’m wary becuase of no photo http://amigakit.amiga.store/product_...oducts_id=1026

02 May 2020, 20:44	#23
amigakit.com Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: www.amigakit.com Posts: 2,015	@Gordon In stock, Ill make sure photo fixed next week Thanks

07 May 2020, 23:17	#24
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	@Amigakit I got my 4xIDE and FastIDE adapter today, thanks for the fast service. With the Gayle adapter connected and enabled it will not boot my OS3.1.4 installation (with Best Workbench) stalls after a slight bit if HDD activity (no guru) I have an A1200 with 3.1.4 Roms and 8mb Ram Card. 16gb CF card prepped with PFS3 AIO. I had a spare 4gb CF kicking around with OS3.9 on SFS, this does boot but I'm getting a lot of SFS errors. I will check the integrity of the CF on another machine. Have tried to re-seat the Gayle adapter a few times. Any advice? The link for the software/wiki is not working so I've not been able to download the software at this stage. Cheers! Edit: The 4gb CF is corrupted now, I will try prepping it again.

08 May 2020, 08:57	#26
spudje Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,406	Will the 4xIDE (without FastIDE) work on a vampire (v500 2+)? Or would an unbuffered version even work?

08 May 2020, 15:20	#27
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	I replaced the 3.1.4 Roms with a spare set of 3.0 and the system seems to run reliably now however there's no speed increase by default and the link to the software doesn't work? wiki.amiga.org/4xide Have sent Amigakit an email so hopefully once I get my hands om the software I can test the other PIO modes

09 May 2020, 17:32	#28
amigakit.com Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: www.amigakit.com Posts: 2,015	Version 1.5 of the 4xIDE software archive is now available to download from the official Amiga.org Wiki: http://wiki.amiga.org/4xide This software is for users of the A1200/A600 4xIDE Buffered IDE Interface and also FastIDE A1200 adapter for 4xIDE interface

10 May 2020, 17:51	#29
indigolemon Bit Copying Bard Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Kelty, Fife, Scotland Age: 41 Posts: 1,293	Just installed mine today. Working out of the box in my A1200 tower with 3.1.4 ROMs. Installed the software to tweak a few settings, and things are definitely feeling more snappy with regard to disk access. Also very pleased it works great with all the other hardware I have in there

10 May 2020, 20:29	#30
wiz12 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Ireland Posts: 752	How fast does this interface go, up to PIO4? and what are the speeds like according to Sysinfo? Also have you tested it with a CD drive too?

02 June 2020, 21:39	#32
Spymate Registered User Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Netherlands Posts: 12	Is there a solution to the problem when installing AmigaOS 3.9? When I upgrade my WB3.1 to amigaOS 3.9 I get an error that I need a newer version of IDEfix. This problem also occurs when I create an emergency disk. I am using the latest version of idefix97 from aminet.

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