My own experience with ACA 630/25MHz - Page 3

mfilos · 14 January 2011, 15:40

OFC you can boot your Amiga without Startup-Sequence...
Just power off and power your amiga after 20sec and enter Early Startup Menu. From there boot with no startup-sequence and just "Ed S: Startup-Sequence" to change it.

It's logical for not system letting you boot since the MapROM kicked the kickstart you inserted. It's reset proof alas you need to power off.

Although Kickstart revision seems correct, it may be corrupter for some reason.

Oliver_A · 14 January 2011, 16:30

Perhaps I should add that ACATune does not support encrypted ROMS, which are often used in conjuction with WinUAE.

Nikolaj_sofus · 14 January 2011, 20:14

Just formatted the harddrive again with the buffers "80" and maxtransfer "1fe00"
It seems to work fine now

Now i just have to figure out how to fixate the 1.8" harddrive im using

Also tried to map the kickstart 40.68 that i copied from my a1200.
Works fine on the a600.
So i guess that your rom file must be corrupted.

rkauer · 15 January 2011, 04:21

Low the Max_transfer to 0xFE00 instead 1FE00, that's the most secure value for any media.

Please inform again if troubles stills happens!

Nikolaj_sofus · 15 January 2011, 07:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkauer

Low the Max_transfer to 0xFE00 instead 1FE00, that's the most secure value for any media.

Please inform again if troubles stills happens!

I just wrote that it works fine now.

Predseda · 15 January 2011, 17:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfilos

OFC you can boot your Amiga without Startup-Sequence...
Just power off and power your amiga after 20sec and enter Early Startup Menu. From there boot with no startup-sequence and just "Ed S: Startup-Sequence" to change it.

Thats what I say - I CAN'T enter early startup, even after turn off - let the capacitors discharge - turn on! My Amiga frees its memory from rekicked 3.0, but immediatelly after turn-on it starts to boot again, no matter that both mouse buttons are pressed.

I will boot it (on monday) thru the floppy and try another ROM file.

fitzsteve · 15 January 2011, 18:47

Is it possible to write some code in ACA Tune that if you end up with a naff rom file on re-kick you could hold down a key to skip this update? Like a fail safe option...

Steve.

Nikolaj_sofus · 15 January 2011, 18:56

i had a bit of the same problem. got to use a corrupted file, when i tried loading another version then the a1200 one.
the early boot menu without startup-sequence did not work for me either.
but i did manage by booting from floppy.

one thing i noticed, is that when i maprom the a1200 kickstart 40.68, the screen flickers and go to black.
When i then reboot the system, it starts up just fine with the 40.68 kickstart.
However, it's a bit annoying to have to reboot your system on every startup.

Predseda · 17 January 2011, 11:25

So I changed the romfile and it now works perfectly.

FOL · 17 January 2011, 12:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikolaj_sofus

i had a bit of the same problem. got to use a corrupted file, when i tried loading another version then the a1200 one.
the early boot menu without startup-sequence did not work for me either.
but i did manage by booting from floppy.

one thing i noticed, is that when i maprom the a1200 kickstart 40.68, the screen flickers and go to black.
When i then reboot the system, it starts up just fine with the 40.68 kickstart.
However, it's a bit annoying to have to reboot your system on every startup.

I normally get a Rainbow if the ROM loading ok.
If the ROM works in WinUAE, then its a good bet it will work with ACA Card.

Predseda · 17 January 2011, 13:07

My Amiga now (with ACAtune, after the cold start) starts to boot, then it remaps 3.1 romfile from disk to fastmem, then the power blinks once (but it doesn't reset) and continues to boot already to system 3.1. It doesn't need additional reset.

FOL · 17 January 2011, 14:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Predseda

My Amiga now (with ACAtune, after the cold start) starts to boot, then it remaps 3.1 romfile from disk to fastmem, then the power blinks once (but it doesn't reset) and continues to boot already to system 3.1. It doesn't need additional reset.

You sure, as it need reset to make it active.
Power light blinking once, is it resetting.

Predseda · 17 January 2011, 15:01

But there is not that reset sequence, you know - white screen, then grey screen etc.

Nikolaj_sofus · 17 January 2011, 15:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOL

You sure, as it need reset to make it active.
Power light blinking once, is it resetting.

Are there a way to make it auto reset if a new rom is loaded so you don't have to push "ctrl, A, A" everytime you could boot the machine?

FOL · 17 January 2011, 15:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikolaj_sofus

Are there a way to make it auto reset if a new rom is loaded so you don't have to push "ctrl, A, A" everytime you could boot the machine?

You tried ACATune Maprom blah blah with new file from cli window?

Oliver would be better to answer this as its his program.

kasio · 19 January 2011, 19:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOL

Remove "No Disk" jumper as you have a floppy drive.
I put mine on one pin of the "Card Disable" (Angled Jumper).

See if that helps.

This worked for me too. However, I had my floppy removed to fit an Indivision ECS. Now there is this annoying delay at startup.

Is it possible to avoid the delay and still maintain the PCMCIA-flash-card working?

FOL · 19 January 2011, 21:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by kasio

This worked for me too. However, I had my floppy removed to fit an Indivision ECS. Now there is this annoying delay at startup.

Is it possible to avoid the delay and still maintain the PCMCIA-flash-card working?

Did you try what jens said.
Jumper pin 1 & 2 of Floppy connector.

kasio · 19 January 2011, 22:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOL

Did you try what jens said.
Jumper pin 1 & 2 of Floppy connector.

I missed that post. Thanks.

Predseda · 20 January 2011, 09:01

Weird thing - I also have a strange delay during boot, while Amiga seems to do nothing. But I am not sure if she did this already before I installed ACA or not.

Just after

Code:

echo "Amiga release 2. Kickstart $Kickstart, Workbench $Workbench"

line. Some 2 seconds maybe, while next line in startup-sequence is

Code:

conclip

Predseda · 23 February 2011, 21:26

Another experience.

I had two of my amigas on one table. Amiga 600 with 2mb chip and ACA630/25MHz, with Kickstart 37.350 ROM inside. It had ROM v3.1 rekicked from file using ACAtune and Workbench v3.1 on 8 colors.

Next to it was my A1200 equipped with M-Tec 68030 / 28MHz, ROMs and Workbench v3.0 also 8 cols.

My subjective feeling is, that the A600 was much much faster in system work (opening windows, copying files, listing directories etc.) than A1200.

Today I replaced ROM chip in my A600 from v2.05 to v3.1 and removed ACAtune from startup-sequence. I got-rid with the extra auto-reboot, needed for rekicking, so I saved some seconds from the cold-boot and half meg of memory. The system is now a bit slower, because ROM is now in ROM and not in FastRAM, though.

14 January 2011, 20:14	#43
Nikolaj_sofus Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Copenhagen / Denmark Age: 44 Posts: 259	Just formatted the harddrive again with the buffers "80" and maxtransfer "1fe00" It seems to work fine now Now i just have to figure out how to fixate the 1.8" harddrive im using Also tried to map the kickstart 40.68 that i copied from my a1200. Works fine on the a600. So i guess that your rom file must be corrupted. Last edited by Nikolaj_sofus; 14 January 2011 at 21:06. Reason: wanted to give some more info

20 January 2011, 09:01	#59
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,545	Weird thing - I also have a strange delay during boot, while Amiga seems to do nothing. But I am not sure if she did this already before I installed ACA or not. Just after Code: echo "Amiga release 2. Kickstart $Kickstart, Workbench $Workbench" line. Some 2 seconds maybe, while next line in startup-sequence is Code: conclip

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14 January 2011, 15:40	#41
mfilos Paranoid Amigoid Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 45 Posts: 1,978	OFC you can boot your Amiga without Startup-Sequence... Just power off and power your amiga after 20sec and enter Early Startup Menu. From there boot with no startup-sequence and just "Ed S: Startup-Sequence" to change it. It's logical for not system letting you boot since the MapROM kicked the kickstart you inserted. It's reset proof alas you need to power off. Although Kickstart revision seems correct, it may be corrupter for some reason.

14 January 2011, 16:30	#42
Oliver_A Soldering Ironman Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Germany, NRW Posts: 79	Perhaps I should add that ACATune does not support encrypted ROMS, which are often used in conjuction with WinUAE.

15 January 2011, 04:21	#44
rkauer I hate potatos and shirts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sao Leopoldo / Brazil Age: 58 Posts: 3,482	Low the Max_transfer to 0xFE00 instead 1FE00, that's the most secure value for any media. Please inform again if troubles stills happens!

15 January 2011, 18:47	#47
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	Is it possible to write some code in ACA Tune that if you end up with a naff rom file on re-kick you could hold down a key to skip this update? Like a fail safe option... Steve.

15 January 2011, 18:56	#48
Nikolaj_sofus Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Copenhagen / Denmark Age: 44 Posts: 259	i had a bit of the same problem. got to use a corrupted file, when i tried loading another version then the a1200 one. the early boot menu without startup-sequence did not work for me either. but i did manage by booting from floppy. one thing i noticed, is that when i maprom the a1200 kickstart 40.68, the screen flickers and go to black. When i then reboot the system, it starts up just fine with the 40.68 kickstart. However, it's a bit annoying to have to reboot your system on every startup.

17 January 2011, 11:25	#49
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,545	So I changed the romfile and it now works perfectly.

17 January 2011, 13:07	#51
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,545	My Amiga now (with ACAtune, after the cold start) starts to boot, then it remaps 3.1 romfile from disk to fastmem, then the power blinks once (but it doesn't reset) and continues to boot already to system 3.1. It doesn't need additional reset.

17 January 2011, 15:01	#53
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,545	But there is not that reset sequence, you know - white screen, then grey screen etc.

23 February 2011, 21:26	#60
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,545	Another experience. I had two of my amigas on one table. Amiga 600 with 2mb chip and ACA630/25MHz, with Kickstart 37.350 ROM inside. It had ROM v3.1 rekicked from file using ACAtune and Workbench v3.1 on 8 colors. Next to it was my A1200 equipped with M-Tec 68030 / 28MHz, ROMs and Workbench v3.0 also 8 cols. My subjective feeling is, that the A600 was much much faster in system work (opening windows, copying files, listing directories etc.) than A1200. Today I replaced ROM chip in my A600 from v2.05 to v3.1 and removed ACAtune from startup-sequence. I got-rid with the extra auto-reboot, needed for rekicking, so I saved some seconds from the cold-boot and half meg of memory. The system is now a bit slower, because ROM is now in ROM and not in FastRAM, though.

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