PFS3AIO v3.1 Final - Page 5

malko · 23 February 2018, 22:01

Toni,
On post #1, the following link is not working ( http://www.winuae.net/files/b/pfsdoctor_experimenal.zip ).
It goes to :

Not Found
The requested URL /winuae/files/b/pfsdoctor_experimenal.zip was not found on this server.
----------
Apache/2.2.22 (Debian) Server at download.abime.net Port 80

DamienD · 23 February 2018, 22:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by malko

Toni,
On the post #1, the following link is not working ( http://www.winuae.net/files/b/pfsdoctor_experimenal.zip ).

Being a GM has it's advantages sometimes (rarely though) as I can see all post history

Try this: http://www.winuae.net/files/b/pfs3aio_v3.0_test4.zip

...mind you, the very 1st URL Toni posted in the 1st post of the thread also works

kolla · 23 February 2018, 22:18

@DamienD

malko is asking for link to experimental pfsdoctor, not pfsaio itself. Link on posting #1 now works though, so I guess you fixed it.

malko · 23 February 2018, 22:20

Test #4 already downloaded Damien. Thanks

.
I wanted to download" pfsdoctor" indeed. Maybe I am tired but I can't download it : neither in github nor in the zip file (see text in bold below).
Please, don't tell me that I am tired, I would prefer to know that the link is broken

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

[...]Souces available from https://github.com/tonioni/pfs3aio (and pfsdoctor)
Source tree also includes experimental >4G file size (48 bit file length field) support but it is not enabled in this version. Contact me if you want to test it.

>104G partition support and >4G file size support requires reformat and on-disk structures are not anymore compatible with old PFS3 or PFSDoctor versions. (http://www.winuae.net/files/b/pfsdoc...perimental.zip Note: command line only, no GUI like in official pfsdoctor)[...]

malko · 23 February 2018, 22:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by kolla

@DamienD

malko is asking for link to experimental pfsdoctor, not pfsaio itself. Link on posting #1 now works though, so I guess you fixed it.

You write faster than me

.

PS: Yes, working now. My thanks to the person who corrected the link

grelbfarlk · 24 February 2018, 00:26

Just an empty "it seems to be working report":
Test3 seems to be working on A4000d with 32GB Sandisk Extreme on IDE.
Uninteresting specs:
A4000 LC060@50MHz w/64MB motherboard hack.
Will try test4 soon.

Also Thank you and good work as always.

I have a few different SCSI cards I can test if anyone has any requests.

kolla · 24 February 2018, 11:42

Been testing out on my CD32/TF328 setup, with some mixed results, using a CF card and scsi.device 46.0

It is a little unclear to me - should one use pfsformat at all? Or just AmigaOS format quick, and then use setfnsize and setdeldir to set those options? I tried using pfsformat quick, but then pfsdoctor often finds errors after copying data back to the partition and rebooting. It seems better with OS3.9 format, but I am not confident

Also, quite a few times, formatting a device still leaves the content there, as if not formatted.

Well, as I mentioned, this is CD32 with TF328, and with scsi.device 46,0 (http://wt.exotica.org.uk/test.html) which _seems_ to be the only scsi.device working with multiple partitions on my setup (but that may just be an illusion of course). With scsi.device 43, the system goes into a repeated reboot cycle upon boot when I have more partitions defined

Toni Wilen · 24 February 2018, 11:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by kolla

Been testing out on my CD32/TF328 setup, with some mixed results, using a CF card and scsi.device 46.0

It is a little unclear to me - should one use pfsformat at all? Or just AmigaOS format quick, and then use setfnsize and setdeldir to set those options? I tried using pfsformat quick, but then pfsdoctor often finds errors after copying data back to the partition and rebooting. It seems better with OS3.9 format, but I am not confident

Also, quite a few times, formatting a device still leaves the content there, as if not formatted.

Well, as I mentioned, this is CD32 with TF328, and with scsi.device 46,0 (http://wt.exotica.org.uk/test.html) which _seems_ to be the only scsi.device working with multiple partitions on my setup (but that may just be an illusion of course). With scsi.device 43, the system goes into a repeated reboot cycle upon boot when I have more partitions defined

I don't really care when using drivers or hardware that may or may not have other issues..

pfsformat or format, no difference (just don't select full format).

fgh · 24 February 2018, 12:00

That reboot issue could be a known bug in scsi.device 43.43 (from 3.9 Boing Ball 2)
it has a bug that fails with all drives >4G that are reporting lba48 capability.
Try scsi.device version 43.45.
Don Adan's version 46.0 is not something I would trust. He couldn't tell its basic features or even which version it was based on. ('just some version someone sent him')

fgh · 24 February 2018, 12:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

I don't really care when using drivers or hardware that may or may not have other issues..

pfsformat or format, no difference (just don't select quick format).

DON'T select quick format?!

Toni Wilen · 24 February 2018, 12:04

It was supposed to be "don't select full format". Fixed

supaduper · 24 February 2018, 14:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by kolla

Been testing out on my CD32/TF328 setup, with some mixed results, using a CF card and scsi.device 46.0

It is a little unclear to me - should one use pfsformat at all? Or just AmigaOS format quick, and then use setfnsize and setdeldir to set those options? I tried using pfsformat quick, but then pfsdoctor often finds errors after copying data back to the partition and rebooting. It seems better with OS3.9 format, but I am not confident

Also, quite a few times, formatting a device still leaves the content there, as if not formatted.

Well, as I mentioned, this is CD32 with TF328, and with scsi.device 46,0 (http://wt.exotica.org.uk/test.html) which _seems_ to be the only scsi.device working with multiple partitions on my setup (but that may just be an illusion of course). With scsi.device 43, the system goes into a repeated reboot cycle upon boot when I have more partitions defined

I have a TF328 and never encounter problems with PFS3aio, I have used 4, 8, and 16 gb CF`s with multiple partitions and even before Toni`s updates they all ran flawlessly and thats with scsi.device 40.5 !

The only time I did have errors was when I had bad IDE to cf adapter and that was throwing up `wrong index` and all the other normal errors but when I changed it for a good one then I had no problems and thats with a £2 cf adapter

Toni Wilen · 24 February 2018, 16:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by kolla

the system goes into a repeated reboot cycle upon boot when I have more partitions defined

Can you still enter early boot menu? Does it stop rebooting if you disable all partitions in early boot menu? (and yes, try 43.45, it is known working)

Foul · 24 February 2018, 17:00

Test #4 working here : both FS-UAE / real A1200/060 using the same CF-Card

Sinphaltimus · 24 February 2018, 18:53

Updated to test4 without any ill side effects. Thank you again.
See below for my config.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinphaltimus

PFS3aioTest3 successfully applied to my Vampirized A500 Apollo OS r43 SSD. After successful reboot, PFSDoctor is happy with all devices.

DH0:777MB, DH2:512MB and DH1:27.5GB

- Thank you.

malko · 24 February 2018, 21:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

[...] pfsformat or format, no difference (just don't select full format).

Except the consideration that a quick format take less time, is there any reason not to perform a normal format (full) ?

E-Penguin · 24 February 2018, 21:46

If you're using a flash-based memory device, the full format will use up a lot of the limited number of write cycles for the device.

Toni Wilen · 24 February 2018, 21:53

>4G safe filesystem won't make full format >4G safe. Even if format is >4G safe, it may not use same (working) access mode that filesystem uses (Full format bypasses filesystem) so you may still get bad results..

Unsafe format program + full formatting partition that is not fully inside first 4G: partition table and first partition will get fully or partially overwritten..

It is safer to never use full format.

malko · 24 February 2018, 23:09

What a big surprise to learn that "Full format bypasses filesystem".
Will look at the "format" command with different eyes now

.

Thank you for the explanation

.

kolla · 25 February 2018, 00:10

With scsi.device 43.45 all my problems vanished, everything working great!

I am baffled how this version of scsi.device has been flying under my radar, considering that it is from 2008, on Aminet and all.

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23 February 2018, 22:01	#81
malko Ex nihilo nihil Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: CH Posts: 4,856	Toni, On post #1, the following link is not working ( http://www.winuae.net/files/b/pfsdoctor_experimenal.zip ). It goes to : Not Found The requested URL /winuae/files/b/pfsdoctor_experimenal.zip was not found on this server. ---------- Apache/2.2.22 (Debian) Server at download.abime.net Port 80

23 February 2018, 22:18	#83
kolla Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Trondheim, Norway Posts: 1,893	@DamienD malko is asking for link to experimental pfsdoctor, not pfsaio itself. Link on posting #1 now works though, so I guess you fixed it.

24 February 2018, 00:26	#86
grelbfarlk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,902	Just an empty "it seems to be working report": Test3 seems to be working on A4000d with 32GB Sandisk Extreme on IDE. Uninteresting specs: A4000 LC060@50MHz w/64MB motherboard hack. Will try test4 soon. Also Thank you and good work as always. I have a few different SCSI cards I can test if anyone has any requests.

24 February 2018, 11:42	#87
kolla Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Trondheim, Norway Posts: 1,893	Been testing out on my CD32/TF328 setup, with some mixed results, using a CF card and scsi.device 46.0 It is a little unclear to me - should one use pfsformat at all? Or just AmigaOS format quick, and then use setfnsize and setdeldir to set those options? I tried using pfsformat quick, but then pfsdoctor often finds errors after copying data back to the partition and rebooting. It seems better with OS3.9 format, but I am not confident Also, quite a few times, formatting a device still leaves the content there, as if not formatted. Well, as I mentioned, this is CD32 with TF328, and with scsi.device 46,0 (http://wt.exotica.org.uk/test.html) which _seems_ to be the only scsi.device working with multiple partitions on my setup (but that may just be an illusion of course). With scsi.device 43, the system goes into a repeated reboot cycle upon boot when I have more partitions defined

24 February 2018, 12:00	#89
fgh Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Norway Posts: 817	That reboot issue could be a known bug in scsi.device 43.43 (from 3.9 Boing Ball 2) it has a bug that fails with all drives >4G that are reporting lba48 capability. Try scsi.device version 43.45. Don Adan's version 46.0 is not something I would trust. He couldn't tell its basic features or even which version it was based on. ('just some version someone sent him')

24 February 2018, 12:04	#91
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	It was supposed to be "don't select full format". Fixed

24 February 2018, 17:00	#94
Foul Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Perigueux/France Age: 49 Posts: 1,516	Test #4 working here : both FS-UAE / real A1200/060 using the same CF-Card

24 February 2018, 21:46	#97
E-Penguin Banana Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Darmstadt Posts: 1,213	If you're using a flash-based memory device, the full format will use up a lot of the limited number of write cycles for the device.

24 February 2018, 21:53	#98
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	>4G safe filesystem won't make full format >4G safe. Even if format is >4G safe, it may not use same (working) access mode that filesystem uses (Full format bypasses filesystem) so you may still get bad results.. Unsafe format program + full formatting partition that is not fully inside first 4G: partition table and first partition will get fully or partially overwritten.. It is safer to never use full format.

24 February 2018, 23:09	#99
malko Ex nihilo nihil Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: CH Posts: 4,856	What a big surprise to learn that "Full format bypasses filesystem". Will look at the "format" command with different eyes now . Thank you for the explanation .

25 February 2018, 00:10	#100
kolla Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Trondheim, Norway Posts: 1,893	With scsi.device 43.45 all my problems vanished, everything working great! I am baffled how this version of scsi.device has been flying under my radar, considering that it is from 2008, on Aminet and all.

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