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Old 18 July 2019, 16:43   #1
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SPS vs No-Intro

Is there any real difference between the two? I see they both use IPF disks and I know they are unaltered with no-intros (yeah) or trainers and other add-ons but other than that are there any good and bad sides between them? I know the Software Preservation Society and have been at there site many times but No-Intro I am a bit unaware of.

In other words If I wanted a clean Amiga game disk to play a certain game (with no cracks or other things) which would be the better choice.
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Old 18 July 2019, 17:15   #2
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No-Intro uses the same IPFs that are already available. They just rename them to their general naming schema. Just like TOSEC.
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Old 18 July 2019, 20:08   #3
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Thanks for clearing that up Retro-Nerd I was also wondering if I needed to keep both sets?
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Old 18 July 2019, 20:42   #4
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Maybe you should. I haven't compared how many individual IPF versions are actually available in both sets.
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Old 19 July 2019, 00:35   #5
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Maybe you should. I haven't compared how many individual IPF versions are actually available in both sets.
Thank you, I will check out if No-Intro has anything that is not included with SPS soon.
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Old 19 July 2019, 01:03   #6
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No-Intro also contains some non SPS ipfs.
All the releases starting with an x is not an official SPS release.
e.g x014 - Labyrinth (Denmark).
All releases starting with a number (SPS ID) is.
e.g 3087 - Turbo (Europe).

That's why I've always said when using the No-Intro dat, the numbered set is a must.
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Can anyone recommend a ROM DAT manager that is easier to use than Clrmamepro (something more intuitive I guess).
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Old 19 July 2019, 01:18   #8
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Old 19 July 2019, 01:28   #9
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Old 23 July 2019, 23:39   #10
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I love to organize my files with clean file names and I would like to organize my mass SPS disk collection very similar to the Gamebase 2.0 naming convention like:

0002_Commando
0006_Batman - The Movie_Disk1
0006_Batman - The Movie_Disk2

Is there a DAT file for SPS that will remove clones and rename all the disks to a naming convention like this. I have yet to try the TOSEC SPS DAT so maybe that would work.
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Old 23 July 2019, 23:48   #11
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I have yet to try the TOSEC SPS DAT so maybe that would work.
Nope, the TOSEC SPS DAT renames files like this: Commodore Amiga - Games - SPS (TOSEC-v2015-06-27_CM)

e.g: "4D Sports Boxing (1991)(Mindscape)[0421].zip" and then inside the archive:
  • 4DSportsBoxing_Disk1.ipf
  • 4DSportsBoxing_Disk2.ipf
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Well the files in the archive have good enough file names for me, I will just rename the folders.

Thank you.

While I am thinking of it, I downloaded this Dat file: Amiga MIA SPS images.dat and I did a scan an seem to have 312 of 337 of them, are these really needed? I will add the lists here.

I am so addicted to this new wave of ROM collecting, I may need professional help.
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I thought SPS images had to be completely unmodified. Eg, not even a high score entered on the table. Why are they now altering images to remove intros?
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I am sorry but I have no Idea what you are saying. Is No-Intro really removing intros? I thought that was just a code-name "No-Intro" or something, not literally removing game intros.
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Yeah, I'm sorry, I was confused. It looks like No-Intro is actually a group. I thought SPS were the only ones creating IPF's.

I'll see myself out.
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Can anyone recommend a ROM DAT manager that is easier to use than Clrmamepro (something more intuitive I guess).
I find CLRmame a piece of cake it's Romvault I can't make head nor tail of?
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IIRC,the "No-intro" name stems from collecting ROM dumps without intros from the release groups (sort of cracktros). There were a lot of these in the GBA era for example.
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That's true. But today "No-Intro" only means that they really provide unaltered 1:1 original dumps, no cracks.
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IIRC,the "No-intro" name stems from collecting ROM dumps without intros from the release groups (sort of cracktros). There were a lot of these in the GBA era for example.

They also posted patches to remove the intro from scene GBA dumps, and thus convert your dumps to "No-intro" versions too.

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That's true. But today "No-Intro" only means that they really provide unaltered 1:1 original dumps, no cracks.
Not strictly true. Byuu dumped one of my SNES roms, and found the No-Intro dump had been actually dumped incorrectly, or had been damaged, and the dumper manually fixed it before releasing it as "unaltered".

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They also posted patches to remove the intro from scene GBA dumps, and thus convert your dumps to "No-intro" versions too.



Not strictly true. Byuu dumped one of my SNES roms, and found the No-Intro dump had been actually dumped incorrectly, or had been damaged, and the dumper manually fixed it before releasing it as "unaltered".
I would expect they just mean "the best they could find" kind of like Cracker Barrel apple butter... (Sorry, regional joke)
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