X86 Discussion

[nathanm1991]

Originally Posted by Viceroy

And 10 Floppies!

Oh yeah and Floppies

[nathanm1991]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PC-RETRO-...frcectupt=true

Is this too new Looking for the P3 do ya Reckon?

[Glen M]

Originally Posted by nathanm1991

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PC-RETRO-...frcectupt=true

Is this too new Looking for the P3 do ya Reckon?

I don't think your board will fit in that case. Is it not a full ATX board?

In any case I'd be tempted to go with a modern case with a window and lights. I'm currently building a pentium 3 along those lines myself all be it just a M-ATX board.

[Viceroy]

I have just noticed you were interested in the Asrock K7541GX - Athlon XP 3000+ 2 x 512 MB 133 (DDR 266) GlenM, do you still want it?

[nathanm1991]

Originally Posted by Viceroy

I have just noticed you were interested in the Asrock K7541GX - Athlon XP 3000+ 2 x 512 MB 133 (DDR 266) GlenM, do you still want it?

If you quote with Reply to Glen theres more Chance it will be seen Buddy :-)

[nathanm1991]

Originally Posted by Glen M

I don't think your board will fit in that case. Is it not a full ATX board?

In any case I'd be tempted to go with a modern case with a window and lights. I'm currently building a pentium 3 along those lines myself all be it just a M-ATX board.

Ah yeah Blonde Moment There are Other Cases made by the Same People and I do Agree I am now looking at the Modern route, The Opposite to a Sleeper Build

[Viceroy]

Originally Posted by Glen M

1. Nice socket A board but its just a bit lacking on expansion slots. A good competitor to the P4 windows 98/XP builds though. I'd value it at about £30 - £40. If you want there is £30 sitting here waiting for you as it'd make an interesting build for my youtube channel when most just revolve around P4 98/XP builds this would be something a bit different.

2. The Intel equivalent to the above, slightly faster CPU and a few more expansion slots. I'd value it similar at about £30-£40

3 and 5. For me these core 2 duo setups are more or less worthless. Too modern for a 98 build and too old for anything modern. The entire mid 00s of computer hardware still isn't old enough to make it retro. Yeah you could build a nice XP rig with it but I always prefer to use the period correct hardware and push that for best performance. Value for each of these maybe £20 - £30.

4. Now this is the diamond in the rough. A beautiful board with AGP, PCI and a single ISA slot. Its crying out for a windows 98 build with a nice ISA sound card for DOS support and a Geforce GPU. Value for this one is hard to judge. Sold as a bundle for value I'd guess in or around £50 - £80.

Take all my valuations with a pinch of salt though. PC retro hardware isn't like Amiga as while there is the following for it there is a lot more hardware to go around. Like anything retro its all about perspective so to some all this hardware is worthless where as to some its priceless. If I owned that Pentium 3 board I'd not give it up for love nor money. Likewise if I had those core 2 duo boards I'd probably just give them away or take them to the bin as for me they are worthless.

If you have any expansion cards going in particular sound or video cards let us know. Some of these are worth a lot more money. Voodoo cards are particularly valuable and if you had a Geforce 256 DDR I'd probably sell some body parts to get it. Certain ISA sound cards hold a massive amount of value too.

I have just noticed you were interested in the Asrock K7541GX - Athlon XP 3000+ 2 x 512 MB 133 (DDR 266) GlenM, do you still want it?

[Glen M]

Thanks viceroy but I've just purchases another scrap pc project from ebay so for now I'll have to pass on your board. I noticed you've listed it on ebay to good luck with the sale.

[nathanm1991]

Originally Posted by Glen M

I'm not so sure on performance of C2Q chips but I'd imagine your scrapping the barrel to make a budget gaming machine from those. 1155 or 1156 chips are at a price point now that the rule the budget gaming market but even at that your looking to the high end of those chips to keep up with the low end of todays.

I've built a few budget gaming rigs for people lately and my advice in terms of motherboard / cpu is always reach to the low/mid of current tech rather than the high end of yesterdays i.e. an AM4 board with low end rysen 3 or 5. With the right board you leave your machine wide open for future expansion of CPU to significantly increase its performance whereas a high end 1155/56 chip is already stretching itself to keep up. GPU is a different story. Always better to reach to the high end of the last gen just to save money. My GTX960 can still push out most stuff on high at 1080p but I tend to look to GTX980 or a RX580 for builds and considering most budget gamers are also buying a budget monitor (1080p 60hz) then 4gb of vram is plenty.

Sorry to go off topic. Maybe this thread should be relabeled x86 discussion (or words to that effect)

Hi GlenM how do you go about getting a Thread Relabelled as I would like to start Showing all of my Projects and not just my Dos/98SE Machines lol

[Viceroy]

Originally Posted by Glen M

Thanks viceroy but I've just purchases another scrap pc project from ebay so for now I'll have to pass on your board. I noticed you've listed it on ebay to good luck with the sale.

No probs ;-)

[Glen M]

Originally Posted by nathanm1991

Hi GlenM how do you go about getting a Thread Relabelled as I would like to start Showing all of my Projects and not just my Dos/98SE Machines lol

Speak to a moderator or admin, I'm sure they will help.

[nathanm1991]

Originally Posted by Glen M

Speak to a moderator or admin, I'm sure they will help.

Thanks I Will Seek DamienD out see if he can Help

[nathanm1991]

Hi to All this Thread will be Re-Labelled as X86 Discussion I just thought i'd let you all Know so you don't lose the Conversation :-)

[DamienD]

Thread title updated as requested

[nathanm1991]

Originally Posted by DamienD

Thread title updated as requested

Thank you Bro

[Viceroy]

;-)

[nathanm1991]

Right, Now that it's a Open X86 Discussion would anybody Else like to Share what Projects they have on the Go?

I'm Currently trying to get my 98SE Setup to Play Multiplayer Via Lan. Does anyone know a Solid Safe option for this? Too outdated on Running the Internet on older Machines now and I don't want to leave myself Vulnerable

[nathanm1991]

Originally Posted by Viceroy

;-)

Have just Opened the Floppy Box and Realised what you have Actually Sent me on the Disks. Dos 6.22 here we Come :-) Cheers

[005AGIMA]

Great thread.

I've just been getting into DOSBOX to be honest, and now have Duke 3D and DOOM up and running. Also re-installed Unreal Tournament 2004 and resurrected my home made custom maps for that and Duke.

Re projects though.....

Pentium II
My old Pentium II is still at my parents place in the UK, so I'll be taking a look at that in december with a view to resurrecting it and possibly shipping it back to Australia.

From memory it was duel booting Win98 and WinNT when I left it ~17 years ago.

PC's by the PALLET LOAD
An evil plan I've been tinkering with is grabbing a pallet of used office PC's from auction, cleaning them up, and flipping them at a fair price.

3 pallets went up recently but I missed the auction as I just wanted to see what they sold for, but generally they sell cheap, and the same machines (HP i5's) were going for around $250 (AUD) on ebay at the time. Depending on what you get the pallet for, there's a potential for ~$200 profit per box without ripping anyone off.

The thing that makes me weary though is all the hassle of becoming an e-bay seller. Plus with those numbers, it's clearly a "business" so tax implications and I'd have to declare second income at work, and where I work, that has to go through approvals......unless I up-skill the wife to do it.
That's an option.

Do make it work of course you first need:

1) Around $3500 to gamble on a pallet of dusty old PC's that may or may not be missing bits

2) The space to store them

3) the time and knowledge to work on them to make a fair and honest sale

4)Space to store them

5) Patience. They're not all going to sell in 1 week...or a month.....or maybe even a year, and the value will be going down every day they sit.

So while it's possibly good money, I wouldn't call it fast money.

[005AGIMA]

Originally Posted by nathanm1991

Right, Now that it's a Open X86 Discussion would anybody Else like to Share what Projects they have on the Go?

I'm Currently trying to get my 98SE Setup to Play Multiplayer Via Lan. Does anyone know a Solid Safe option for this? Too outdated on Running the Internet on older Machines now and I don't want to leave myself Vulnerable

You could put a second NIC in a modern PC and use that as your proxy/firewall perhaps?

So the Win98 machine connects via ethernet to the modern PC, which in tern connects to the interwebs.

Or setup a dedicated Linux firewall. That's what my mate who works in cyber security for the banking sector does at home.

Or last option, and this is a VERY last resort......stop surfing for pron.