Amiga WB Chip Memory help

iowtheme · 26 March 2010, 22:16

hi there

need same help with Chip memory on a real amiga A1200, Microbotics M1230XA, Running 50Mhz, 32Ram, 64Gb CF Card, 24x CDrom,

i have set-up Classic Workbench FULL form http://classicwb.abime.net/classicweb/full.htm

how do i freeing up Chip Memory plz

thank all

Bloodwych · 27 March 2010, 09:49

You should have plenty - it's set up to optimize chipram usage.

How much do you have available? You might have set up too many chip buffers for your devices.

Only things you can do is either use the multiboot options to boot into less memory intensive environments: http://classicwb.abime.net/classicweb/multiboot.htm

...or reduce your screen colours down from 16. Seems strange you don't have enough with the FULL to be honest.

iowtheme · 27 March 2010, 11:27

hi there

less that 512k chip then WB load up

Bloodwych · 27 March 2010, 11:29

Something is drastically wrong! Is your fastram actually working?

iowtheme · 27 March 2010, 12:40

512k Chip 32Mb Fast

how can i test the fast ram

FOL · 27 March 2010, 12:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by iowtheme

512k Chip 32Mb Fast

how can i test the fast ram

Copy your system partition to it, see what happens.

Bloodwych · 27 March 2010, 12:45

Your hardware is not setup or working correctly.

You should have 2MB CHIP 32MB FAST. What's happening is all of the Workbench is getting loaded into CHIP, meaning your FASTRAM is not getting used. Do you have to install a driver or extra software to activate the FASTRAM?

I'd do a search or wait for someone with similar hardware to help get your FASTRAM working.

FOL · 27 March 2010, 12:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodwych

Your hardware is not setup or working correctly.

You should have 2MB CHIP 32MB FAST. What's happening is all of the Workbench is getting loaded into CHIP, meaning your FASTRAM is not getting used. Do you have to install a driver or extra software to activate the FASTRAM?

I'd do a search or wait for someone with similar hardware to help get your FASTRAM working.

I thought when you run the 1230XA app, to add the fast ram, it gave you some options to select first.

Which let you setup the ram configuration. If this is wrong then maybe thats causing problem?

Bloodwych · 27 March 2010, 12:49

Perhaps FOL - I'm so green when it comes to Amiga hardware addons. I've only ever had an A1200 + FASTRAM board.

FOL · 27 March 2010, 12:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodwych

Perhaps FOL - I'm so green when it comes to Amiga hardware addons. I've only ever had an A1200 + FASTRAM board.

This post briefly explains what should be done. I remember doing this when testing one of these cards.

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=655068&postcount=38

Apparently under Kickstart 3.0, software is needed to configure the Fast RAM.

iowtheme · 27 March 2010, 13:00

I have add it to Startup-sequence

C:AddXAMem /none

Then it loadup a error come up say it is not execuatable prog

I can only add it to WBstartup Drawer ( AddXAMem.info )

Bloodwych · 27 March 2010, 13:01

Nice one, well that looks like it could be the issue.

Once you get that FASTRAM working iowtheme, the A1200 will suddenly fly and perform much faster!

FOL · 27 March 2010, 13:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by iowtheme

I have add it to Startup-sequence

C:AddXAMem /none

Then it loadup a error come up say it is not execuatable prog

I can only add it to WBstartup Drawer ( AddXAMem.info )

Ermmmm, whats this "/none" ??

It should be;

C:AddXAMem

See what happens, if its popping up some type of window, see what it says. If its just an info window, then try this instead;

C:AddXAMem >NIL:

Bloodwych · 27 March 2010, 13:15

Also check the file attributes are set to +RWED. Looks like the program is set to read only and none executable.

You can do this by selecting the file, right click and going to information. Make sure it is set to executable.

iowtheme · 27 March 2010, 16:52

If i put the files before Loadwb
erorr
C:AddXAMem: Unknown Command
C:AddXAMem failed returncode 10

C:LoadWB

If i put the Files after loadWB

C:AddXAMem >NIL: ( It Boot Up with This )
C:AddXAMem ( It Boot Up with This )

It will NOT show up the 32Mb Ram in Startup-Sequence

I have to Manually load up the file ( This Work )

or if i put the AddXAMem in to WBstartup Drawer but error

The Program 'AddXAMem' has not yet returned.
should I wait some more????

=====================================

;ClassicWB Startup-Sequence
Wait 1

C:TestRMB
IF WARN
C:SetPatch QUIET
C:Version >NIL:
C:MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards RAM:ENV RAM:ENV/Sys
C:Copy >NIL: ENVARC: RAM:ENV ALL NOREQ
Resident >NIL: C:Assign PURE
Resident >NIL: C:Execute PURE
Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:ENV
Assign >NIL: T: RAM:T
Assign >NIL: CLIPS: RAM:Clipboards
Execute >NIL: S:Minboot-Sequence
EndIf
C:TestLMB
IF WARN
C:SetPatch QUIET
C:Version >NIL:
C:MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards RAM:ENV RAM:ENV/Sys
Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:ENV
Assign >NIL: T: RAM:T
Assign >NIL: CLIPS: RAM:Clipboards
Execute >NIL: S:CLIboot-Sequence
EndIf
C:SetPatch QUIET
C:Version >NIL:
FailAt 21
C:MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards RAM:ENV RAM:ENV/Sys
C:Copy >NIL: ENVARC: RAM:ENV ALL NOREQ
Resident >NIL: C:Assign PURE
Resident >NIL: C:Execute PURE
Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:ENV
Assign >NIL: T: RAM:T
Assign >NIL: CLIPS: RAM:Clipboards
Assign >NIL: REXX: S:
Assign >NIL: PRINTERS: DEVS:Printers
Assign >NIL: KEYMAPS: DEVS:Keymaps
Assign >NIL: LOCALE: SYS:Locale
Assign >NIL: LIBS: SYS:Classes ADD
Assign >NIL: HELP: LOCALE:Help DEFER
IF NOT EXISTS SYS:Fonts
Assign FONTS:
EndIF
BindDrivers
C:Mount >NIL: DEVS

OSDrivers/~(#?.info)
IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors
IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly
DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly
EndIF
C:List >NIL: DEVS:Monitors/~(#?.info|VGAOnly) TO T:M LFORMAT "DEVS:Monitors/%s"
Execute T:M
C

elete >NIL: T:M
EndIF
SetEnv Workbench $Workbench
SetEnv Kickstart $Kickstart
UnSet Workbench
UnSet Kickstart
C:AddDataTypes REFRESH QUIET
C:IPrefs
C:ConClip
IF EXISTS SYS:WBstartupD
Rename >NIL: SYS:WBStartupD SYS:WBStartup
EndIf
Path >NIL: RAM: C: SYS:Utilities SYS:Rexxc SYS:System S: SYS:Prefs SYS:WBStartup SYS:Tools SYS:Tools/Commodities
IF EXISTS S:User-Startup
Execute S:User-Startup
EndIF
Resident Execute REMOVE
Resident Assign REMOVE

C:LoadWB
C:AddXAMem >NIL: ( It Boot Up with This )
C:AddXAMem ( It Boot Up with This )
EndCLI >NIL:

cosmicfrog · 27 March 2010, 17:18

add donot wait to icon in wbstartup draw to get rid of that requester

as to why it dos`t work in startupsequence i have no idea

all >NIL: dose is send any output to nowhere

Rename >NIL: SYS:WBStartupD SYS:WBStartup is example of its use where we don`t want the user to see whats going on, sounds bad but it is`t

Bloodwych · 27 March 2010, 17:42

Cosmic is right, DONOTWAIT in tooltypes gets rid of such messages.

I think you need to have a read about your accelerator:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=SetXA+M1230XA

Looks like you need SetXA.

BTW, that is an older version of the Startup-Sequence, must be a pack from a few years ago. Not that it matters, just thought I'd point that out.

FOL · 27 March 2010, 18:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodwych

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=SetXA+M1230XA

LMFAO, I love that "Let me google it for you".

Bloodwych · 27 March 2010, 18:07

It's great isn't it? Such a simple idea, but I bet the site gets LOADS of hits!

iowtheme · 27 March 2010, 22:11

Hi All

Thanks for the HELP

Now it look like it is fully working

I did a Google search and found a file AutoXA.LHA at http://aminet.net/driver/other/AutoXA.lha

download the file and set it up

Copy AutoXA to C:

then Ed S:Startup-sequence
-------------------------
at the bottom of Startup-sequence
C:LoadWB
C:AutoXA
EndCLI >NIL:
------------------
Then Save

Go Back to WB then run shell

typed AutoXa then Enter

The Amiga will Reboot, twice

WB will load up with 1.8mb chip and 31+ fast ram

If you do a hard reboot the Amiga will reboot twice

this is fine if it done, if you do a soft reboot the Amiga will only do 1 reboot.

Now I need a Progs to TEST ONLY Chip Ram and then the FAST ONLY
So I Can TEST it to it full Potential

If any one can help with this thank all

26 March 2010, 22:16	#1
iowtheme Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: uk Posts: 214	Amiga WB Chip Memory help hi there need same help with Chip memory on a real amiga A1200, Microbotics M1230XA, Running 50Mhz, 32Ram, 64Gb CF Card, 24x CDrom, i have set-up Classic Workbench FULL form http://classicwb.abime.net/classicweb/full.htm how do i freeing up Chip Memory plz thank all Last edited by iowtheme; 28 March 2010 at 12:58.

27 March 2010, 16:52	#15
iowtheme Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: uk Posts: 214	If i put the files before Loadwb erorr C:AddXAMem: Unknown Command C:AddXAMem failed returncode 10 C:LoadWB If i put the Files after loadWB C:AddXAMem >NIL: ( It Boot Up with This ) C:AddXAMem ( It Boot Up with This ) It will NOT show up the 32Mb Ram in Startup-Sequence I have to Manually load up the file ( This Work ) or if i put the AddXAMem in to WBstartup Drawer but error The Program 'AddXAMem' has not yet returned. should I wait some more???? ===================================== ;ClassicWB Startup-Sequence Wait 1 C:TestRMB IF WARN C:SetPatch QUIET C:Version >NIL: C:MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards RAM:ENV RAM:ENV/Sys C:Copy >NIL: ENVARC: RAM:ENV ALL NOREQ Resident >NIL: C:Assign PURE Resident >NIL: C:Execute PURE Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:ENV Assign >NIL: T: RAM:T Assign >NIL: CLIPS: RAM:Clipboards Execute >NIL: S:Minboot-Sequence EndIf C:TestLMB IF WARN C:SetPatch QUIET C:Version >NIL: C:MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards RAM:ENV RAM:ENV/Sys Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:ENV Assign >NIL: T: RAM:T Assign >NIL: CLIPS: RAM:Clipboards Execute >NIL: S:CLIboot-Sequence EndIf C:SetPatch QUIET C:Version >NIL: FailAt 21 C:MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards RAM:ENV RAM:ENV/Sys C:Copy >NIL: ENVARC: RAM:ENV ALL NOREQ Resident >NIL: C:Assign PURE Resident >NIL: C:Execute PURE Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:ENV Assign >NIL: T: RAM:T Assign >NIL: CLIPS: RAM:Clipboards Assign >NIL: REXX: S: Assign >NIL: PRINTERS: DEVS:Printers Assign >NIL: KEYMAPS: DEVS:Keymaps Assign >NIL: LOCALE: SYS:Locale Assign >NIL: LIBS: SYS:Classes ADD Assign >NIL: HELP: LOCALE:Help DEFER IF NOT EXISTS SYS:Fonts Assign FONTS: EndIF BindDrivers C:Mount >NIL: DEVSOSDrivers/~(#?.info) IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly EndIF C:List >NIL: DEVS:Monitors/~(#?.info\|VGAOnly) TO T:M LFORMAT "DEVS:Monitors/%s" Execute T:M Celete >NIL: T:M EndIF SetEnv Workbench $Workbench SetEnv Kickstart $Kickstart UnSet Workbench UnSet Kickstart C:AddDataTypes REFRESH QUIET C:IPrefs C:ConClip IF EXISTS SYS:WBstartupD Rename >NIL: SYS:WBStartupD SYS:WBStartup EndIf Path >NIL: RAM: C: SYS:Utilities SYS:Rexxc SYS:System S: SYS:Prefs SYS:WBStartup SYS:Tools SYS:Tools/Commodities IF EXISTS S:User-Startup Execute S:User-Startup EndIF Resident Execute REMOVE Resident Assign REMOVE C:LoadWB C:AddXAMem >NIL: ( It Boot Up with This ) C:AddXAMem ( It Boot Up with This ) EndCLI >NIL:

27 March 2010, 22:11	#20
iowtheme Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: uk Posts: 214	Hi All Thanks for the HELP Now it look like it is fully working I did a Google search and found a file AutoXA.LHA at http://aminet.net/driver/other/AutoXA.lha download the file and set it up Copy AutoXA to C: then Ed S:Startup-sequence ------------------------- at the bottom of Startup-sequence C:LoadWB C:AutoXA EndCLI >NIL: ------------------ Then Save Go Back to WB then run shell typed AutoXa then Enter The Amiga will Reboot, twice WB will load up with 1.8mb chip and 31+ fast ram If you do a hard reboot the Amiga will reboot twice this is fine if it done, if you do a soft reboot the Amiga will only do 1 reboot. Now I need a Progs to TEST ONLY Chip Ram and then the FAST ONLY So I Can TEST it to it full Potential If any one can help with this thank all Last edited by iowtheme; 27 March 2010 at 22:16.

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27 March 2010, 09:49	#2
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	You should have plenty - it's set up to optimize chipram usage. How much do you have available? You might have set up too many chip buffers for your devices. Only things you can do is either use the multiboot options to boot into less memory intensive environments: http://classicwb.abime.net/classicweb/multiboot.htm ...or reduce your screen colours down from 16. Seems strange you don't have enough with the FULL to be honest.

27 March 2010, 11:27	#3
iowtheme Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: uk Posts: 214	hi there less that 512k chip then WB load up

27 March 2010, 11:29	#4
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Something is drastically wrong! Is your fastram actually working?

27 March 2010, 12:40	#5
iowtheme Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: uk Posts: 214	512k Chip 32Mb Fast how can i test the fast ram

27 March 2010, 12:45	#7
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Your hardware is not setup or working correctly. You should have 2MB CHIP 32MB FAST. What's happening is all of the Workbench is getting loaded into CHIP, meaning your FASTRAM is not getting used. Do you have to install a driver or extra software to activate the FASTRAM? I'd do a search or wait for someone with similar hardware to help get your FASTRAM working.

27 March 2010, 12:49	#9
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Perhaps FOL - I'm so green when it comes to Amiga hardware addons. I've only ever had an A1200 + FASTRAM board.

27 March 2010, 13:00	#11
iowtheme Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: uk Posts: 214	I have add it to Startup-sequence C:AddXAMem /none Then it loadup a error come up say it is not execuatable prog I can only add it to WBstartup Drawer ( AddXAMem.info )

27 March 2010, 13:01	#12
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Nice one, well that looks like it could be the issue. Once you get that FASTRAM working iowtheme, the A1200 will suddenly fly and perform much faster!

27 March 2010, 13:15	#14
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Also check the file attributes are set to +RWED. Looks like the program is set to read only and none executable. You can do this by selecting the file, right click and going to information. Make sure it is set to executable.

27 March 2010, 17:18	#16
cosmicfrog The 1 who ribbits Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: leek, Staffs, UK Age: 56 Posts: 3,557	add donot wait to icon in wbstartup draw to get rid of that requester as to why it dos`t work in startupsequence i have no idea all >NIL: dose is send any output to nowhere Rename >NIL: SYS:WBStartupD SYS:WBStartup is example of its use where we don`t want the user to see whats going on, sounds bad but it is`t

27 March 2010, 17:42	#17
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Cosmic is right, DONOTWAIT in tooltypes gets rid of such messages. I think you need to have a read about your accelerator: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=SetXA+M1230XA Looks like you need SetXA. BTW, that is an older version of the Startup-Sequence, must be a pack from a few years ago. Not that it matters, just thought I'd point that out.

27 March 2010, 18:07	#19
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	It's great isn't it? Such a simple idea, but I bet the site gets LOADS of hits!

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