After Burner

StingRay · 19 January 2016, 17:42

http://hol.abime.net/3207 is actually After Burner 2! Proof: Let the intro run for a while until the vector bobs appear, there clearly is "II" visible then. So the name should be changed and the "has a clone" comment should be removed as well.

DrBong · 19 January 2016, 17:55

Thought I was way ahead of that one!

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...5&postcount=18

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...3&postcount=21

BUT.....

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...4&postcount=22

Hmmmm.......might have to take a closer look now.

idrougge · 19 January 2016, 17:58

Isn't AB1 and AB2 the same game in different cabinets?

Retroplay · 19 January 2016, 18:02

The european Activision version has a II as well if you leave intro running.

StingRay · 19 January 2016, 18:03

Hmm, indeed. Well, at least the name should be changed to After Burner 2 then.

Belgarath · 19 January 2016, 18:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retroplay

The european Activision version has a II as well if you leave intro running.

Which I've just talked about here http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...64#post1063864

DrBong · 19 January 2016, 18:12

Thanks Belg and Retroplay - will have to make a note of it under conversions. Changing the title of the game entries to After Burner II, though, might just add to the confusion for HOL visitors given the titlescreens and box contents are all labelled "After Burner". The annoying things that game publishers do sometimes.......

s2325 · 19 January 2016, 18:32

I'm sure it's Retfa Renrub II

Retroplay · 19 January 2016, 18:38

Quote from mameinfo.dat:

Quote:

(snip)
ABII is essentially the same game as "After Burner", but there are a few differences, mainly the fact that it is possible to control your plane speed.
(snip)

dlfrsilver · 19 January 2016, 18:52

After Burner II is in fact After Burner game code Revision II.

The same applies on Galaxy Force, my colleagues at The Dumping Union found the revision I of the game, which was erased to install revision II (Galaxy Force II) due to bugs/problems on revision I.

ReadOnlyCat · 19 January 2016, 19:51

Absolutely.

The revision I is actually the initial Japanese release and Sega suffixed it with a II for the international releases. Aside from a few improvements here and there and some changes in level sequence AfterBurner I & II (arcade) are essentially the same game.

Most computer/console ports target AfterBurner II.

Codetapper · 20 January 2016, 09:55

The name on the box and commonly known name (plus all reviews) are Afterburner, it would be crazy to change it. A note and alias is enough.

If we changed HOL to every title screen, many other games would have to be changed. Apidya has a II written on it. Many other games have extra words or spelling mistakes on the title compared with the box.

desiv · 18 December 2023, 22:27

I know, old thread, but I just pulled out my US Sega Afterburner for some reason (can't remember why now...) and got checking some things and I am confused... ;-)

I loaded it up and yep I have the full screen (Sega, not Activision) version, I think...

Then I look at the screenshots on the back of the box appear to be for the Activision version??? With that border frame...

Do I have the wrong disk for my box? So I check HOL... My game looks like the Sega version according to HOL screenshots...

So I look at the HOL back of the box image and the screenshots on the back of the box have the border frames like the Activision version? Same as my box.

So I then go to the HOL entry for the Activision version and look at it's box and on the back, there are the screenshots for that version and the screenshots also have that border frame ...and ??? what?
That last screenshot on the "budget release - front" has a screenshot (just one of the three) that looks full screen? Like the Sega version? (Not saying it is, but there is no border art like the Sega version..)

Then I go to youtube and check some vids...
Yep, looks like I have the Sega version and the game is fullscreen, and the Activision version has that border frame...

Admittedly, I haven't played it that much and maybe that border goes on and off or something???
Just has me confused (which isn't tough to do)... ;-)

TCD · 19 December 2023, 08:26

So... I only know that there are in fact two separate releases. You have to keep in mind that each box was made for several versions of the game on different systems (which could explain the screenshot 'mismatch').

Just had a quick look again and it seems like all the screenshots and scans are associated with the right entry, but if there is something specific that doesn't seem right please let us know.

desiv · 19 December 2023, 17:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCD

Just had a quick look again and it seems like all the screenshots and scans are associated with the right entry, but if there is something specific that doesn't seem right please let us know.

Yeah, I think they are all associated with the right entries on HOL...

It just threw me off when the screenshots on the box didn't match the version of the game in the box.

But that apparently is the way they shipped it...

Just seems weird to me that you have written a very different version of a game for the same system, and then you are totally fine with the wrong screenshots on the back of the box. ;-)

I mean, I see that all the time with the same game/different systems. Just didn't expect it for different versions of the same game on the same system. ;-)

PascalDe73 · 19 December 2023, 22:11

I nice Game ... The SEGA version is the Best one

The Disk Picture is my version bought in USA (Ebay)

19 January 2016, 17:42	#1
StingRay move.l #$c0ff33,throat Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berlin/Joymoney Posts: 6,863	After Burner http://hol.abime.net/3207 is actually After Burner 2! Proof: Let the intro run for a while until the vector bobs appear, there clearly is "II" visible then. So the name should be changed and the "has a clone" comment should be removed as well.

19 January 2016, 17:55	#2
DrBong HOL / AMR Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 2,632	Thought I was way ahead of that one! http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...5&postcount=18 http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...3&postcount=21 BUT..... http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...4&postcount=22 Hmmmm.......might have to take a closer look now. Last edited by DrBong; 19 January 2016 at 18:02.

19 January 2016, 18:12	#7
DrBong HOL / AMR Team Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 2,632	Thanks Belg and Retroplay - will have to make a note of it under conversions. Changing the title of the game entries to After Burner II, though, might just add to the confusion for HOL visitors given the titlescreens and box contents are all labelled "After Burner". The annoying things that game publishers do sometimes....... Last edited by DrBong; 19 January 2016 at 18:18.

19 December 2023, 22:11	#16
PascalDe73 PascalDe73 Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Charleroi Belgium Age: 51 Posts: 144	I nice Game ... The SEGA version is the Best one The Disk Picture is my version bought in USA (Ebay) Attached Thumbnails Last edited by PascalDe73; 19 December 2023 at 23:57.

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19 January 2016, 17:58	#3
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,334	Isn't AB1 and AB2 the same game in different cabinets?

19 January 2016, 18:02	#4
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Denmark Age: 49 Posts: 4,084	The european Activision version has a II as well if you leave intro running.

19 January 2016, 18:03	#5
StingRay move.l #$c0ff33,throat Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Berlin/Joymoney Posts: 6,863	Hmm, indeed. Well, at least the name should be changed to After Burner 2 then.

19 January 2016, 18:32	#8
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	I'm sure it's Retfa Renrub II

19 January 2016, 18:52	#10
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,421	After Burner II is in fact After Burner game code Revision II. The same applies on Galaxy Force, my colleagues at The Dumping Union found the revision I of the game, which was erased to install revision II (Galaxy Force II) due to bugs/problems on revision I.

19 January 2016, 19:51	#11
ReadOnlyCat Code Kitten Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Montreal/Canadia Age: 52 Posts: 1,178	Absolutely. The revision I is actually the initial Japanese release and Sega suffixed it with a II for the international releases. Aside from a few improvements here and there and some changes in level sequence AfterBurner I & II (arcade) are essentially the same game. Most computer/console ports target AfterBurner II.

20 January 2016, 09:55	#12
Codetapper 2 contact me: email only! Join Date: May 2001 Location: Auckland / New Zealand Posts: 3,182	The name on the box and commonly known name (plus all reviews) are Afterburner, it would be crazy to change it. A note and alias is enough. If we changed HOL to every title screen, many other games would have to be changed. Apidya has a II written on it. Many other games have extra words or spelling mistakes on the title compared with the box.

18 December 2023, 22:27	#13
desiv Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Salem, OR Posts: 1,770	I know, old thread, but I just pulled out my US Sega Afterburner for some reason (can't remember why now...) and got checking some things and I am confused... ;-) I loaded it up and yep I have the full screen (Sega, not Activision) version, I think... Then I look at the screenshots on the back of the box appear to be for the Activision version??? With that border frame... Do I have the wrong disk for my box? So I check HOL... My game looks like the Sega version according to HOL screenshots... So I look at the HOL back of the box image and the screenshots on the back of the box have the border frames like the Activision version? Same as my box. So I then go to the HOL entry for the Activision version and look at it's box and on the back, there are the screenshots for that version and the screenshots also have that border frame ...and ??? what? That last screenshot on the "budget release - front" has a screenshot (just one of the three) that looks full screen? Like the Sega version? (Not saying it is, but there is no border art like the Sega version..) Then I go to youtube and check some vids... Yep, looks like I have the Sega version and the game is fullscreen, and the Activision version has that border frame... Admittedly, I haven't played it that much and maybe that border goes on and off or something??? Just has me confused (which isn't tough to do)... ;-)

19 December 2023, 08:26	#14
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,598	So... I only know that there are in fact two separate releases. You have to keep in mind that each box was made for several versions of the game on different systems (which could explain the screenshot 'mismatch'). Just had a quick look again and it seems like all the screenshots and scans are associated with the right entry, but if there is something specific that doesn't seem right please let us know.

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