WANTED: hardware and documentation

Toni Wilen · 13 August 2008, 18:24

Hardware and documentation wanted for emulation improvement purposes and AROS m68k development (or something, as usual, improvements may happen years later..). Will pay but don't ask anything crazy or I will reply something more or less fun

20.03.2016 update

Hardware:

- SX32 or similar CD32 HD/floppy expansion (NEW!).

- A4000T

- CD32 MPEG cartridge.

- Freezer cartridges [more info in other threads..]

- Other A500 side expansion hardware (?)

"Got recently":

- A3000/A4000 Zorro/PCI bridge. (Prometheus)
- A590
- A4000 [Big thanks to Arnljot for selling one and also loaning CSPPC for AROS m68k testing!]. (2x A4000 actually)
- SupraTurbo 28
- GVP A530/8M
- Hurricane H530 and Apollo 520.
- External HD floppy drive (special 150RPM drive) [have XL and A3000 internal HD drive]
- A3000UX (2M+16M, "old" SuperBuster/DMAC/RAMSEY, updated SCSI chip) + tapedrive (thanks Tim!)
- A1000 [A1000 Agnus most likely has some undocumented differences](thanks Jope

I really have this now)
- Blizzard 1230/1240/1260 SCSI-Kit IV (SCSI add-on) [replace current IDE CF with SCSI-IDE+CF for better performance] (from local auction site)
- External floppy drive with built-in track display
- Warp Engine 68040/40MHz
- Another CD32.. (has extra chip on CDROM controller PCB)
- PCMCIA SRAM Card (4M)
- All 3rd edition RKRMs
- A4091

"Always wanted but have already:"

- A500+ with 1MB trapdoor RAM expansion
- CD32 [1]
- CDTV #1, 2M chip [1], 8M fast, internal CDTV SCSI adapter + SCSI-IDE bridge + CF, 2-port joystick adapter.
- Supradrive 500XP
- A570

[1] donated by Cloanto.

Other Amiga hardware I already have:

- A500 (OCS and ECS. Someone should build Agnus-switcher

), main testing Amigas.
- A1200 + Blizzard 1260 + CF in IDE-port, AGA-testing Amiga.
- CDTV #2 ("spare") [available for swap/sale in future]
- AmiTrix SCSI-TV CDTV SCSI adapter (never used, came with another CDTV. CDTV #1 adapter is different model) [available for swap/sale in future]
- CDTV floppy drive

Do not attempt to hijack this thread

Rabbit80 · 14 August 2008, 00:01

I may be able to help - I think I got a supraturbo somewhere - but I'm not sure!

It will be friday evening before i get a chance to look!

14 August 2008, 20:22

Hi Toni, it's difficult to find the CL450 datasheet, but I did find the CL480 datasheet: http://www.datasheet4u.com/html/C/L/...Logic.pdf.html (Click on 'DataSheet View' to download the PDF file to your computer

)
I quote "The one key difference between C-Cube's CL450 and CL480 is that the latter filters video during scaling. All else being equal, the CL480 will produce higher quality, full screen video." (Source: http://www.doceo.com/myweb2/articles/mpegbord.html)

Toni Wilen · 14 August 2008, 21:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by CD32freak

Hi Toni, it's difficult to find the CL450 datasheet, but I did find the CL480 datasheet

I thought I said "Must be CL-450 datasheet"

CL450 is video decoder ONLY and only accept video data

CL480 also includes audio decoder and accepts full mpeg stream. (includes demultiplexer and also direct CD interface)

= CL-450 needs totally different input data than CL-480.

Quote:

I may be able to help - I think I got a supraturbo somewhere - but I'm not sure!

Great. I had one but it was sold ages ago

Rabbit80 · 15 August 2008, 19:47

I just looked in my attic for my miggy stuff and its GONE...

The Mrs had a clear out a couple of months ago and binned it since "I hadn't used it for years! "

Sorry Toni - no SupraTurbo

Boot_WB · 16 August 2008, 13:25

Hi Toni,

As the A4091 is pretty much implemented on the A4000T, would the A4000T schematics be useful to you for the scsi chip/rom connections and PCB layout stuff?

If so, I can upload them to the zone for you, although the scan quality is not great.

Regards

Rich

Toni Wilen · 16 August 2008, 18:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boot_WB

Hi Toni,

As the A4091 is pretty much implemented on the A4000T, would the A4000T schematics be useful to you for the scsi chip/rom connections and PCB layout stuff?

If so, I can upload them to the zone for you, although the scan quality is not great.

If you can see chip pin numbers.. I have A4000T schematics that are unreadable..

19 August 2008, 22:16

Maybe there is something here?
http://www.datakompaniet.no/

Type amiga where is says "søk" and press "søk".

22 August 2008, 03:44

I believe I have the ROM Kernel Reference Manual: Libraries 3rd edition, let me go check, in the meantime; if I do have the manual, where do I send it?

I just found this: http://www-kryo.desy.de/documents/vx...10Lib.html#top it is the
NCR 53C710 SCSI I/O Processor Programming Guide, VxWorks Programmer's Guide: I/O System on-line. Not sure if that is what you need though.

Saghalie
http://www.beautiful-beginnings.org

Toni Wilen · 22 August 2008, 21:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saghalie

I believe I have the ROM Kernel Reference Manual: Libraries 3rd edition, let me go check, in the meantime; if I do have the manual, where do I send it?

Replied via email

Quote:

I just found this: http://www-kryo.desy.de/documents/vx...10Lib.html#top it is the
NCR 53C710 SCSI I/O Processor Programming Guide, VxWorks Programmer's Guide: I/O System on-line. Not sure if that is what you need though.

This looks useless

Dimlow · 23 August 2008, 20:29

Send my the reference manuals, i will scan and ocr them into PDF for all!

25 August 2008, 01:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Replied via email
This looks useless

Yeah - thought so - had to be sure though

...

still digging out my shed looking for that manual, I guess its buried further than I thought, wish me luck!

Eclipse · 25 August 2008, 03:00

If this external HD floppy drive is of any use I may be able to get it for you.
I also have a 1MB SRAM card set as RAM. I need to check it still works though.

adolescent · 25 August 2008, 07:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

- NCR53C710 SCSI chip complete developer documentation (NCR is now called Symbios) [register description floating around isn't good enough. Chip used in A4000T and A4091]

Just a note that Symbios is now LSI Logic for some time now.

I do have an C= A4091 and a PCMCIA SRAM card that I can lend. Neither is being used right now but I would like them back. Any idea on how long you'd need them?

Toni Wilen · 25 August 2008, 07:57

Quote:

Do not attempt to hijack this thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimlow

Send my the reference manuals, i will scan and ocr them into PDF for all!

Can you post this in separate thread, thanks, going to cleanup this soon.. (btw, those manuals are BIG and HEAVY, mailing those to other countries won't be cheap

)

Toni Wilen · 25 August 2008, 07:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eclipse

If this external HD floppy drive is of any use I may be able to get it for you.
I also have a 1MB SRAM card set as RAM. I need to check it still works though.

HD Externel drive would be nice. Contact via email about price etc, thanks.

SRAM card is good enough for me too, thanks

Toni Wilen · 25 August 2008, 08:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by adolescent

Just a note that Symbios is now LSI Logic for some time now.

I noticed. I guess all old documentation is completely gone by now except if some driver developer somewhere still have one..

Quote:

I do have an C= A4091 and a PCMCIA SRAM card that I can lend. Neither is being used right now but I would like them back. Any idea on how long you'd need them?

1 month max I guess (depends how busy I am) but I'd prefer something I can accidentally destroy

Non-working A4091 should be fine too (going to update first post)

Eclipse · 04 October 2008, 03:21

Hi,
I missed out on the HD disk drive. If anyone finds another on ebay or has one let me know please.

Toni Wilen · 07 November 2008, 19:55

List updated, thanks to everyone who sent me nice and interesting stuff

a4k-oerx · 09 November 2008, 18:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

- CD32 MPEG cartridge [PCB connections]. Or schematics (does it exist?)

Maybe CD32 V3 or V4 schematics helps, pinout of the expansion-slot is there, no schematics for MPEG cartridge itself though...

Scanned copies in PDF:
http://www.ianstedman.co.uk/Amiga/sc...chematics.html

19 August 2008, 22:16	#8
knutd Posts: n/a	Amiga shop Maybe there is something here? http://www.datakompaniet.no/ Type amiga where is says "søk" and press "søk".

22 August 2008, 03:44	#9
Saghalie Posts: n/a	I believe I have the ROM Kernel Reference Manual: Libraries 3rd edition, let me go check, in the meantime; if I do have the manual, where do I send it? I just found this: http://www-kryo.desy.de/documents/vx...10Lib.html#top it is the NCR 53C710 SCSI I/O Processor Programming Guide, VxWorks Programmer's Guide: I/O System on-line. Not sure if that is what you need though. Saghalie http://www.beautiful-beginnings.org Last edited by Saghalie; 22 August 2008 at 04:02. Reason: added more info

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13 August 2008, 18:24	#1
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	WANTED: hardware and documentation Hardware and documentation wanted for emulation improvement purposes and AROS m68k development (or something, as usual, improvements may happen years later..). Will pay but don't ask anything crazy or I will reply something more or less fun 20.03.2016 update Hardware: - SX32 or similar CD32 HD/floppy expansion (NEW!). - A4000T - CD32 MPEG cartridge. - Freezer cartridges [more info in other threads..] - Other A500 side expansion hardware (?) "Got recently": - A3000/A4000 Zorro/PCI bridge. (Prometheus) - A590 - A4000 [Big thanks to Arnljot for selling one and also loaning CSPPC for AROS m68k testing!]. (2x A4000 actually) - SupraTurbo 28 - GVP A530/8M - Hurricane H530 and Apollo 520. - External HD floppy drive (special 150RPM drive) [have XL and A3000 internal HD drive] - A3000UX (2M+16M, "old" SuperBuster/DMAC/RAMSEY, updated SCSI chip) + tapedrive (thanks Tim!) - A1000 [A1000 Agnus most likely has some undocumented differences](thanks Jope I really have this now) - Blizzard 1230/1240/1260 SCSI-Kit IV (SCSI add-on) [replace current IDE CF with SCSI-IDE+CF for better performance] (from local auction site) - External floppy drive with built-in track display - Warp Engine 68040/40MHz - Another CD32.. (has extra chip on CDROM controller PCB) - PCMCIA SRAM Card (4M) - All 3rd edition RKRMs - A4091 "Always wanted but have already:" - A500+ with 1MB trapdoor RAM expansion - CD32 [1] - CDTV #1, 2M chip [1], 8M fast, internal CDTV SCSI adapter + SCSI-IDE bridge + CF, 2-port joystick adapter. - Supradrive 500XP - A570 [1] donated by Cloanto. Other Amiga hardware I already have: - A500 (OCS and ECS. Someone should build Agnus-switcher ), main testing Amigas. - A1200 + Blizzard 1260 + CF in IDE-port, AGA-testing Amiga. - CDTV #2 ("spare") [available for swap/sale in future] - AmiTrix SCSI-TV CDTV SCSI adapter (never used, came with another CDTV. CDTV #1 adapter is different model) [available for swap/sale in future] - CDTV floppy drive Do not attempt to hijack this thread Last edited by Toni Wilen; 20 March 2016 at 11:07. Reason: PCI bridge added

14 August 2008, 00:01	#2
Rabbit80 Its hard being famous! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gateway to the dales, UK Age: 43 Posts: 633	I may be able to help - I think I got a supraturbo somewhere - but I'm not sure! It will be friday evening before i get a chance to look!

14 August 2008, 20:22	#3
CD32freak Posts: n/a	Hi Toni, it's difficult to find the CL450 datasheet, but I did find the CL480 datasheet: http://www.datasheet4u.com/html/C/L/...Logic.pdf.html (Click on 'DataSheet View' to download the PDF file to your computer ) I quote "The one key difference between C-Cube's CL450 and CL480 is that the latter filters video during scaling. All else being equal, the CL480 will produce higher quality, full screen video." (Source: http://www.doceo.com/myweb2/articles/mpegbord.html)

15 August 2008, 19:47	#5
Rabbit80 Its hard being famous! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Gateway to the dales, UK Age: 43 Posts: 633	I just looked in my attic for my miggy stuff and its GONE... The Mrs had a clear out a couple of months ago and binned it since "I hadn't used it for years! " Sorry Toni - no SupraTurbo

16 August 2008, 13:25	#6
Boot_WB Novice in the Black Arts Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Kingston upon Hull Age: 47 Posts: 263	Hi Toni, As the A4091 is pretty much implemented on the A4000T, would the A4000T schematics be useful to you for the scsi chip/rom connections and PCB layout stuff? If so, I can upload them to the zone for you, although the scan quality is not great. Regards Rich

23 August 2008, 20:29	#11
Dimlow Likes to be thought of as Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kent,UK Age: 55 Posts: 529	Send my the reference manuals, i will scan and ocr them into PDF for all!

25 August 2008, 03:00	#13
Eclipse Turpentine Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kent, United Kingdom Posts: 744	If this external HD floppy drive is of any use I may be able to get it for you. I also have a 1MB SRAM card set as RAM. I need to check it still works though.

04 October 2008, 03:21	#18
Eclipse Turpentine Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kent, United Kingdom Posts: 744	Hi, I missed out on the HD disk drive. If anyone finds another on ebay or has one let me know please.

07 November 2008, 19:55	#19
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	List updated, thanks to everyone who sent me nice and interesting stuff

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