Another stupid question!!!

Mick_AKA · 16 July 2002, 01:17

ok, i have towered an amiga 1200 years ago and am thinking of doing it again! but i cant for the life of me remember how the heck to hook up an AT power supply to an a1200 mother board!!!
Please someone tell me, i feel very stupid!!

Oh and can you tower an a500??

Amiga1992 · 16 July 2002, 03:51

Please use the search function of the board, this has been discussed before.

Aminet will give you the documentation you need.

Mick_AKA · 16 July 2002, 06:49

i did use search, i found a guy with schematics for convirting but i had to e-mail him for them and he has not yet replied.

Korodny · 16 July 2002, 13:37

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ok, i have towered an amiga 1200 years ago and am thinking of doing it again! but i cant for the life of me remember how the heck to hook up an AT power supply to an a1200 mother board!!!

Aminet's "hard/hack/" directory contains lots of useful information regarding that topic. You just have to build an adaptor that connects to the A1200's floppy power connector. The -12V wire has to be soldered directly to the motherboard.

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Please someone tell me, i feel very stupid!!

The only stupid thing is that you don't try to get some information on your own first

Try Aminet. Amiga University may also have some useful links.

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Oh and can you tower an a500??

Yes, but that makes even less sense than towering an A1200 these days...

RetroMan · 16 July 2002, 14:59

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Originally posted by Korodny
Yes, but that makes even less sense than towering an A1200 these days...

Not true

A500 + Tower + Z-II Busboard = A2000 light

This way you can also use A2000 Turboboards on an A500

Mick_AKA · 16 July 2002, 15:16

DONE IT!!

got an old 200w AT power supply, dismantled it, made appropriate modifications and managed to mount the whole thing (and the fan!) inside an old A600 PSU shell!
It looks great and for an extra bit of class im using the power swich of my old BBC micro!!
Thanks for all the help and sugestions.

Am thinking of making a few more of these out of spares, think they will sell on e-bay?!!

Korodny · 16 July 2002, 17:37

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Originally posted by RetroMan

Not true A500 + Tower + Z-II Busboard = A2000 light This way you can also use A2000 Turboboards on an A500

Hey, that may have made sense 10 years ago, but now? I can get an A2000 for 5 bucks

RetroMan · 16 July 2002, 21:36

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Originally posted by Korodny
Hey, that may have made sense 10 years ago, but now? I can get an A2000 for 5 bucks

True

But can you say "I have an A500 with 68040 CPU" then

?

LUKas007 · 17 July 2002, 01:26

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Originally posted by Korodny

Hey, that may have made sense 10 years ago, but now? I can get an A2000 for 5 bucks

A2000 is a desktop, a towered A500 has more space for additional devices like CD-ROMS, HDDs and shit...

Korodny · 17 July 2002, 13:43

@RetroMan:

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True

But can you say "I have an A500 with 68040 CPU" then

?

Good Point

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A2000 is a desktop, a towered A500 has more space for additional devices like CD-ROMS, HDDs and shit..

Why would you want to do that? Upgrading classic machines is just extremely expensive.

An A600/1200 with an internal HD, a PCMCIA NIC, some FastRAM and a 68020/68030 CPU is the absolute dream machine for retro-stuff. To make an A500/A2000 that usefull, you'd have to spend a fortune.

Mick_AKA · 17 July 2002, 13:54

Ah yes but you have the added satisfaction of telling people you have a towered A500!!

Amiga1992 · 17 July 2002, 15:35

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Originally posted by Korodny
Why would you want to do that? Upgrading classic machines is just extremely expensive.

Why does someone grab a 1961 'vette and hotrod it? he could buy a Porsche with the money invested on it! nevertheless...

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An A600/1200 with an internal HD, a PCMCIA NIC, some FastRAM and a 68020/68030 CPU is the absolute dream machine for retro-stuff. To make an A500/A2000 that usefull, you'd have to spend a fortune.

I'd vote for the A1200 instead of the 600 in this case, so you can also enjoy AGA games

And I'm still not very sure about the temperature reliability of an HD and an 030 fitting inside the little A600.

Korodny · 17 July 2002, 17:24

@Mick_AKA:

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Ah yes but you have the added satisfaction of telling people you have a towered A500!!

Well, okay

I'd put it this way: You have the added satisfaction (?) of telling people that you put a legendary homecomputer into an ugly, boring case.

@Akira:

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Why does someone grab a 1961 'vette and hotrod it? he could buy a Porsche with the money invested on it! nevertheless...

Not my cup of tee, really

By towering an A500, you replace a case that exactly fits a given purpose (doesn't eat up too much space, easily accessible joyports, "luggable") with a big box. Hm.

To make any use the new case's advantage (space available for expansions) you need to get a Zorro busboard. These are extremely rare these days, extremely expensive and turn your A500 Motherboard into an A2000 motherboard (electrically they're pretty much identical). Hm.

Put in the available expansions (again, these are expensive and rare) and the result is: A towered A2000 "clone" which is slow by todays standards, doesn't run AGA software, is less reliable than a real A2000 and less compatible to old software than the original A500 was. Hm.

Of course it's fun, and I'd do it if I had the parts lying around. But "dream" about it? Ah... no

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I'd vote for the A1200 instead of the 600 in this case, so you can also enjoy AGA games

Right, and I'm happy that I have a spare A1200 for gaming stuff. It's just that I love that A600 case. It's damn cute. I think I'll get one soon.

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And I'm still not very sure about the temperature reliability of an HD and an 030 fitting inside the little A600.

Hm, that's a valid point. Didn't think about that.

LUKas007 · 17 July 2002, 18:54

Korodny if youre so sensitive about the costs, just buy a PC and you will be happy (if you havent one)...
Sorry IE goes mad at me ;p

LUKas007 · 17 July 2002, 19:01

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Originally posted by Korodny
Put in the available expansions (again, these are expensive and rare) and the result is: A towered A2000 "clone" which is slow by todays standards, doesn't run AGA software, is less reliable than a real A2000 and less compatible to old software than the original A500 was. Hm.

Of course it's fun, and I'd do it if I had the parts lying around. But "dream" about it? Ah... no

Actually, IMHO theres no Amiga to "dream" about it... Nowaday they all are obsolete... even A4000T, whatever turbocards and the stuff it has... so its matter of taste and your memories of old good days, the model of Amiga you still have...

Amiga1992 · 18 July 2002, 11:31

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Originally posted by Korodny
Not my cup of tee, really

Mine either, but people like it! So let's let them live with it

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It's just that I love that A600 case. It's damn cute. I think I'll get one soon.

I love it myself, cutest machine I have along with the Macintosh Classic II

Mick_AKA · 18 July 2002, 12:10

the mac classic is great! it will fit almost anywhere!

16 July 2002, 01:17	#1
Mick_AKA crusader of light Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Stone, Staffordshire. Posts: 1,151	Another stupid question!!! ok, i have towered an amiga 1200 years ago and am thinking of doing it again! but i cant for the life of me remember how the heck to hook up an AT power supply to an a1200 mother board!!! Please someone tell me, i feel very stupid!! Oh and can you tower an a500??

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Mick_AKA crusader of light Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Stone, Staffordshire. Posts: 1,151	i did use search, i found a guy with schematics for convirting but i had to e-mail him for them and he has not yet replied.

16 July 2002, 15:16	#6
Mick_AKA crusader of light Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Stone, Staffordshire. Posts: 1,151	DONE IT!! got an old 200w AT power supply, dismantled it, made appropriate modifications and managed to mount the whole thing (and the fan!) inside an old A600 PSU shell! It looks great and for an extra bit of class im using the power swich of my old BBC micro!! Thanks for all the help and sugestions. Am thinking of making a few more of these out of spares, think they will sell on e-bay?!!

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Mick_AKA crusader of light Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Stone, Staffordshire. Posts: 1,151	the mac classic is great! it will fit almost anywhere!

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