New action platformer for Amiga (sic!) - Page 2

Adrian Browne · 10 February 2016, 20:15

There has been a resurgence in higher quality games recently, tanks furry; physical release, Re-shoot; mooted for a physical release and a few more.

I loved Gunlord on my Dreamcast. Nostalgia trip, trip. I hope something may come from this game, I guess time will tell.

Perhaps a small playable demo written in amos might encourage a programmer to get onboard and re-write it in blitz or such.

Well, good luck and keep us posted if you make any progress with this project.

Mrs Beanbag · 10 February 2016, 20:33

graphics look good!

but just a tip. maybe you could read up on the science of palette choices, there are colours in your palette that are very rarely used

Amiga1992 · 10 February 2016, 20:43

Thread title is misleading though, there's not actually any new Amiga platformer :P

Mrs Beanbag · 10 February 2016, 22:07

yeah it also says "Amiga (sic)" but "Amiga" is spelt right... confused

dreamkatcha · 10 February 2016, 22:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs Beanbag

yeah it also says "Amiga (sic)" but "Amiga" is spelt right... confused

Maybe it's 'sick' but spelt wrong. Sick innit bro? See, I'm down with the kids.

Retro1234 · 10 February 2016, 23:54

There some big Bobs in Seemore Doolittles Toyland Capers and some other games by Brian Bell

Retro1234 · 11 February 2016, 15:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by idrougge

Why not?

Most of the silly stuff you hear about Amos is just gibberish from people who have no idea - and have decided because so and so said it must be true they have no idea what there talking about - to be honest me posting this is pointless some people will never change - I might port my code to Blitz but theres really not much point only it would appeal to some people more just because its in blitz?

Sometimes you read threads where ssomeones loaded in a iff with flashy graphics and people jump on this - I will never support these threads I think I have a good judge on what will work and what wont.

Blackgoat · 11 February 2016, 15:28

imho AMOS provide lot of tools for graphic, music... etc. which work pretty good in some way. Somebody like these tools, somebody not so, somebody prefer and can write them from the scratch. I remember shock when I before 20 years move to PC platform and confrontate myself with Turbo Pascal and some C language... It almost instantly kill all my coding attempts... :-D Coding in AMOS then was fun, hope it still will be for today. Ok, I retire for some time from forum, and try to do some work.

Retro1234 · 11 February 2016, 15:32

Blackgoat maybe you should use a different language - to me Blitz is a bit pointless unless I use the basic side as it has wierd Blitz only syntax and learning 68k asm is a total waste of time to me - maybe C?

idrougge · 11 February 2016, 15:47

Yeah, learning C is a great idea if your goal is to learn C instead of actually finishing something.

Mrs Beanbag · 11 February 2016, 19:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by idrougge

Yeah, learning C is a great idea if your goal is to learn C instead of actually finishing something.

that goes for everything in this house...

Blackgoat · 14 March 2016, 20:38

Ok, now I have this:

Its only AMOS, without TOME extension, and It scroll quite fast in 8 directions... Most stupid decision was tile size 20*20 pixels... It need to be toned down to 16*16, so now I am scaling and rewriting all tiles :-) But IMHO it still looks good...

Adrian Browne · 14 March 2016, 21:04

Yeah, looks good.

Blackgoat · 19 March 2016, 11:30

:-) [ Show youtube player ]

nobody · 19 March 2016, 12:16

make the palette more flexible (you use same hue ramps all over and looks amateur), improve the main sprite and could be great

Blackgoat · 19 March 2016, 13:21

About sprite, walking still looks weird and I am not sure about outlines. What else need to improve?
About palette, you think palette in general, or colors used in map? I use generally abour 4 tones of green and brown, eight tones of grey (including b+w), and one or two from other colours

More people say that my palette is not optional, but I dont know how to make it better. The aim is colourfull, comics style, a bit like it was in old NES games... I like, for example, Bitmap Brothers style, which in some of their games is nearly monochromatic, and still looks artistic and awesome, but IMHO it not suit for my game.

I use amiga as 13 years kid, and now it is 20 years later, so I am lacking some basic skills - if you can give me more advice, I will be happy. Thx,

nobody · 19 March 2016, 14:48

a good palette is a palette that colors communicate between them, so is more flexible, so more capable to give impression that there are more than 16 colors in example here. Also there are some rules, blue can be used as a shadow for green, yellow as a highlight for green, etc.

btw bitmap brothers games look good because they use pro artists like Dan Malone!

and palette applied

yes, same 16c all around

klx300r · 19 March 2016, 15:10

looks great

Mrs Beanbag · 19 March 2016, 20:13

Try reading this for some theory and examples
http://pixeljoint.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=12795

nobody · 19 March 2016, 21:33

the colors and the graphics are not bad now, they are good but they are just too old school for me.

11 February 2016, 15:32	#29
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,775	Blackgoat maybe you should use a different language - to me Blitz is a bit pointless unless I use the basic side as it has wierd Blitz only syntax and learning 68k asm is a total waste of time to me - maybe C? Last edited by Retro1234; 11 February 2016 at 15:40. Reason: hhhhhhhhhhhh

19 March 2016, 14:48	#37
nobody Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: GR Age: 47 Posts: 1,416	a good palette is a palette that colors communicate between them, so is more flexible, so more capable to give impression that there are more than 16 colors in example here. Also there are some rules, blue can be used as a shadow for green, yellow as a highlight for green, etc. btw bitmap brothers games look good because they use pro artists like Dan Malone! and palette applied yes, same 16c all around Last edited by nobody; 19 March 2016 at 21:38.

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10 February 2016, 20:15	#21
Adrian Browne Jackie Chan Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Ireland Age: 46 Posts: 986	There has been a resurgence in higher quality games recently, tanks furry; physical release, Re-shoot; mooted for a physical release and a few more. I loved Gunlord on my Dreamcast. Nostalgia trip, trip. I hope something may come from this game, I guess time will tell. Perhaps a small playable demo written in amos might encourage a programmer to get onboard and re-write it in blitz or such. Well, good luck and keep us posted if you make any progress with this project.

10 February 2016, 20:33	#22
Mrs Beanbag Glastonbridge Software Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Edinburgh/Scotland Posts: 2,243	graphics look good! but just a tip. maybe you could read up on the science of palette choices, there are colours in your palette that are very rarely used

10 February 2016, 20:43	#23
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	Thread title is misleading though, there's not actually any new Amiga platformer :P

10 February 2016, 22:07	#24
Mrs Beanbag Glastonbridge Software Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Edinburgh/Scotland Posts: 2,243	yeah it also says "Amiga (sic)" but "Amiga" is spelt right... confused

10 February 2016, 23:54	#26
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,775	There some big Bobs in Seemore Doolittles Toyland Capers and some other games by Brian Bell

11 February 2016, 15:28	#28
Blackgoat Registered User Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 26	imho AMOS provide lot of tools for graphic, music... etc. which work pretty good in some way. Somebody like these tools, somebody not so, somebody prefer and can write them from the scratch. I remember shock when I before 20 years move to PC platform and confrontate myself with Turbo Pascal and some C language... It almost instantly kill all my coding attempts... :-D Coding in AMOS then was fun, hope it still will be for today. Ok, I retire for some time from forum, and try to do some work.

11 February 2016, 15:47	#30
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,338	Yeah, learning C is a great idea if your goal is to learn C instead of actually finishing something.

14 March 2016, 20:38	#32
Blackgoat Registered User Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 26	Ok, now I have this: Its only AMOS, without TOME extension, and It scroll quite fast in 8 directions... Most stupid decision was tile size 2020 pixels... It need to be toned down to 1616, so now I am scaling and rewriting all tiles :-) But IMHO it still looks good...

14 March 2016, 21:04	#33
Adrian Browne Jackie Chan Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Ireland Age: 46 Posts: 986	Yeah, looks good.

19 March 2016, 11:30	#34
Blackgoat Registered User Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 26	:-) [ Show youtube player ]

19 March 2016, 12:16	#35
nobody Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: GR Age: 47 Posts: 1,416	make the palette more flexible (you use same hue ramps all over and looks amateur), improve the main sprite and could be great

19 March 2016, 13:21	#36
Blackgoat Registered User Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 26	About sprite, walking still looks weird and I am not sure about outlines. What else need to improve? About palette, you think palette in general, or colors used in map? I use generally abour 4 tones of green and brown, eight tones of grey (including b+w), and one or two from other colours More people say that my palette is not optional, but I dont know how to make it better. The aim is colourfull, comics style, a bit like it was in old NES games... I like, for example, Bitmap Brothers style, which in some of their games is nearly monochromatic, and still looks artistic and awesome, but IMHO it not suit for my game. I use amiga as 13 years kid, and now it is 20 years later, so I am lacking some basic skills - if you can give me more advice, I will be happy. Thx,

19 March 2016, 15:10	#38
klx300r Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,598	looks great

19 March 2016, 20:13	#39
Mrs Beanbag Glastonbridge Software Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Edinburgh/Scotland Posts: 2,243	Try reading this for some theory and examples http://pixeljoint.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=12795

19 March 2016, 21:33	#40
nobody Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: GR Age: 47 Posts: 1,416	the colors and the graphics are not bad now, they are good but they are just too old school for me.

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