EAB Games League Season 1 Round 2 Game Vote

[BippyM]

it was banned on lemon.. so maybe go see why

[Graham Humphrey]

Turrican 2, definitely banned! End of story.

[turrican3]

i didn't know there was high scores on lemon where can we see it ?

[Shoonay]

This Turrican 2 thing was discussed at Lemon, and someone pointed out that those bees aren't limitless, IIRC...

How about an experiment then?
You guys let people hog in such easy scoring places and see what'll happen?
No, I'm seriuos - I think that sooner or later EVERYONE will get tired of it.
Eventually, will get very high scores, but since everyone will be able to build one, they could be very similar and beatable!
What you say?
EXPERIMENT!

[Magno Boots]

My choices for round two consist of simpler PD games, which are also good fun..

1. Croak
2. Loderunner
3. Deluxe Galaga
4. Pipeline
5. Super Twintris

Not sure about Galaga really, as there are many versions and options to disable features (eg money grabber)

[alkis21]

Originally Posted by Magno Boots

Not sure about Galaga really, as there are many versions and options to disable features (eg money grabber)

No decent player would disable the money grabber, as soon as you get a decent weapon it's a goldmine!

Originally Posted by Graham Humphrey

Turrican 2, definitely banned! End of story.

Sorry I know it's already been sorted, but theres a few things I think that may prove it just as acceptable as the other games mentioned..

- There is a timer, and a rather strict one at that. I couldn't find a disable feature and the manual doesnt mention it. Surely even if there was one you would just leave it enabled anyway. Whats the difference here as opposed to say.. starting with more lives in apidya
- The bees only keep coming out of the hive's for so long - and in fact not long at all. Even if they were constant, (which they're not), you would fast run out of time and die.. you wont get any decent high scores this way either.

neway.. just an opinion

[turrican3]

i agree with you vermillion it's just a question of confidence no bees or no cheats it's the same for me it's just a question of confidence.
It's just my opinion too.

[Graham Humphrey]

Originally Posted by Magno Boots

Not sure about Galaga really, as there are many versions and options to disable features (eg money grabber)

In this case I'd decide on one version of the game and the options would have to be set in a certain way so everyone's on a level playing field.

[Graham Humphrey]

@VermillioN and turrican3 (and everyone else for that matter):

Okay then, tell you what, I'll ban it for this round (as I don't want to change my mind yet again as it would probably influence the voting) and I'll have a look at the game another time. And I'll decide whether I think it's suitable in time for the third round vote. How does that sound?

[turrican3]

I think you can ban no game but make rules about game who win and be confidence that's all that you can do.
Because anyone could cheat to anygame.
Sorry about this situation but i think this is true.
This is just my opinion.

Hard day for the league
what i want say, that's if i want tomorrow, i'll give 100,000,000,000 to slamtilt with using cheats and this game wasn't banned?
make rules bann the bees and that's all.
If not i could ask the bann of so many games because there is different version with cheats menu
perhaps we could ask to toni to make a special winuae version for certified highscores like mame had, this is wolfmame.(i don't know if this is possible)

true turrican3
but I think we'll get it for round 3

Originally Posted by Graham

And I'll decide whether I think it's suitable in time for the third round vote. How does that sound?

sounds fair enough indeed

I've updated the original post of votes

[Shoonay]

Me votes for a voting thread to settle this once and for all

In my book, using this bees trick in Turrican2 or flying all the time in the 1st level of Battle Squadron is NOT cheating...
Come on, really, I'd like to know what are you guys afraid of?
I mean not to be offensive, just really want to say that using such tips&tricks is not cheating at all...

Everyone will eventually just get bored of multi-multi-multi-score-hogging, don't see ANY the danger behind that, besides seeing some nice high scores



PS: OK, there's this Agony score trick when the score-meter eventually get's frozen at 999999 (or something like that) but that's a different story... is it?

[Graham Humphrey]

Cheers VermillioN for editing your vote.

I must admit, this whole thing has got me thoroughly confused (not that it takes much); I thought initially the situation was that the bees appeared indefinitely and there was no time limit (and it was banned on Lemon of course)... but people seem to be saying different things on the subject, so that's why I reached a compromise for this round, and when I get the time I'll look at the game properly and then come to a conclusion from there. Also I don't want to be changing my mind too often, as people may go around forever changing their votes etc, so I feel this is the best solution for the time being.

Hope all that makes sense!

Thank you. And sorry. (Becoming my favourite phrase that one.)

[Graham Humphrey]

Originally Posted by turrican3

i didn't know there was high scores on lemon where can we see it ?

If you go to lemonamiga.com, and go to the Games Competitions forums, you'll find their compo there.

[Shoonay]

Still didn't vote in this, so:
1. Apidya
2. Turrican 3
3. Lotus 2
4. Toki
5. Deluxe Galaga

[Sid]

Originally Posted by bippym

it'd have to be same teams and everything.. make it identical for everyone

Same teams and identical settings are possible, just leave everything standard. Alkis mentioned "international teams" as this is what the default is when played by the KOA (Kick Off Association)

1. Kick Off 2
2. Speedball 2 (single games, as long as you all play the same opponent)
3. Nigel Mansells F1 Grand Prix
4. Supercars 2
5. Chase HQ

[Graham Humphrey]

Originally Posted by Sid

Same teams and identical settings are possible, just leave everything standard.

That is actually incredibly obvious, but somehow I didn't think of that when asking my embarassingly stupid question.

[ppill]

Edited list:

1. Pang (points, normal difficulty level)
2. Vroom (best times)
3. Ugh!
4. Colonization (same map, same nation, points at the end of a certain year)
5. Pinball Dreams (Nightmare)

[Graham Humphrey]

Well your vote doesn't count unless you vote for five...