Catweasel MK3 PCI/Flipper !!

kriz · 26 October 2002, 22:12

Catweasel MK3 PCI/Flipper:four-in-one controller for emulation support.

Hehe this looks like a great new card for pc or amiga. It is a floppy controller, amiga keyboard interface, joystick interface and possibility to connect a sid chip (for real sound!). Hehe even cooler is it that the board can fith both a pci port and a zorro slot (flip card

) 1200 clock connector is also availible ...

http://www.jschoenfeld.de/products/cwmk3_e.htm

looks really good ...

want one

cv643d · 26 October 2002, 22:53

Damn i knew I shouldnt have bought my fu*in Hardsid card 3 years ago.. its a damn ISA card, and ISA is dead!

Maybe I can sell it as a "OMG l00k rare" collectors card on ebay and buy this one so I can enjoy true SID sounds in theh modarn computars... theh win!?

jmmijo · 26 October 2002, 22:55

Yes this does look like a nice board

Twistin'Ghost · 27 October 2002, 02:29

Damn! I can't find a single reason to not buy one! How much does that thing come to in US $ (I'm useless translating Euros...) If it's reasonable, I'll order mine right now.

27 October 2002, 03:20

Quote:

Originally posted by Twistin'Ghost
How much does that thing come to in US $ (I'm useless translating Euros...)

It's easy -> 1 € ~ 1 $ (0.977 $ is the current exchange rate)

jmmijo · 27 October 2002, 06:32

Quote:

Originally posted by Twistin'Ghost Damn! I can't find a single reason to not buy one! How much does that thing come to in US $ (I'm useless translating Euros...) If it's reasonable, I'll order mine right now.

Most likely Software Hut in PA will carry it when it's released. The web site said something about the end of November or there abouts

Twistin'Ghost · 27 October 2002, 07:21

Well, it's a tad bit pricey, but not really when you consider all it does.

RetroMan · 27 October 2002, 11:39

Yup

This seems to be a nice bit of Hardware, I´ll also consider to buy one in the near future ....

Amiga1992 · 28 October 2002, 01:26

Quote:

Originally posted by cv643d

Maybe I can sell it as a "OMG l00k rare" collectors card on ebay and buy this one so I can enjoy true SID sounds in theh modarn computars... theh win!?

Absolutely NOT the same thing... If you bought a HArdSID just for listening to SIDs, well, yeah, that was quite a waste of dough, and yo uare much betetr with this fab new card!
However if you are interested in music creation using teh SID, teh HArdSID is the thing to own.

I'd be happy to buy your card if the price is right

thinlega · 04 November 2002, 23:58

do you think anyone will make some sid composing software for an amiga fitted with this card???.....

If not WHY NOT!!!! god damn it!!!!!:eek

Amiga1992 · 05 November 2002, 00:26

That would be awesome. !

fiath · 05 November 2002, 09:38

Quote:

Originally posted by Twistin'Ghost
Damn! I can't find a single reason to not buy one! How much does that thing come to in US $ (I'm useless translating Euros...) If it's reasonable, I'll order mine right now.

I can give you a reason not to buy one (minus SID stuff)... But you will have to wait probably 4-6 months for this reason to appear.

Amiga1992 · 07 November 2002, 00:03

A good question now. I'm planning to save the 109 bucks the SID+Clockport one costs but... is there *ANY* program that supports this nice device already? I am hoping for Eagletracker support, for example...

On the PC nothing supports it yet, or does it come with builtin drivers for teh joysticks and stuff?

Just curious, Im not in the position to blow 100 bucks for an unsuported piece of hardware, no matter how brilliant it is.

jmmijo · 07 November 2002, 04:49

Looks like Software Hut in PA will be carrying this card soon:

http://www.softhut.com/cgi-bin/test/...=3959461_20700

Toni Wilen · 07 November 2002, 17:36

My CW MK3 WinUAE support plans:

- external Amiga keyboard: very simple to implement
- joystick ports
1: joysticks + 1 button/joystick: very simple
2: joysticks + 2 or 3 buttons/joystick: SID required, more complex
3: CD32 pad: unfortunately not possible
(CW hardware limitation, buttons 2 and 3 can't be outputs)
4: Amiga mouse: possible only in theory. (would need huge amounts of CPU power for polling the mouse because CW lacks hardware mouse counters)
- floppy drive
1: ZorroII emulation and using Amiga side driver: quite simple
2: "Direct" DF0/DF1/DF2/DF3 support. complex. I have not ecided yet.

I might release "special" CW-WinUAE version after basic joystick and keyboard support is complete. (December?)

fiath: I guess your "reason" also excludes joystick and keyboard ports?

Amiga1992 · 08 November 2002, 05:02

That sounds fab Toni!

However let me refine my question

Any AMIGA developments that will support this beauty? I want to connect this to my A1200, not my PC.

I'll still try the catweasel on the PC when/if I buy it

But the priority is the 1200

Pyromania · 08 November 2002, 08:29

Quote:

Originally posted by Akira
That sounds fab Toni!

However let me refine my question

Any AMIGA developments that will support this beauty? I want to connect this to my A1200, not my PC.

I'll still try the catweasel on the PC when/if I buy it But the priority is the 1200

This device supports the A1200 already, it connects to the clockport.

fiath · 08 November 2002, 10:06

Quote:

Originally posted by Toni Wilen
fiath: I guess your "reason" also excludes joystick and keyboard ports?

Cool idea that, it is certainly sometimes frustrating using a PC keyboard for Amiga emulation, and Joysticks? That would be sweet!

Yes, it will be a dedicated (floppy only) device - but it will be "Open Hardware" (as opposed to Open Source

).

Anyone know any license agreements that exist for open hardware designs? I think Sun did one for its Sparc CPU's, but that is the only one I know of...

There is no reason people cannot extend the design of it I suppose, but it wouldn't be "standard" and may be just as easy to start from scratch - we certainly wouldn't spend any time on something like that I wouldn't have thought. Especially as the device we have in mind can be used on an Amiga as well as PC/Mac/whatever - and so would be redundant anyway on one platform.

So if people want things like Amiga mouse/joystick/keyboard - then it is much better to go with the CW. Especially as it is not currently vapourware...

Amiga1992 · 08 November 2002, 15:35

Quote:

Originally posted by Pyromania
This device supports the A1200 already, it connects to the clockport.

Err.. I am asking about SOFTWARE support, I said ;P. I already say I would connect it to my A1200 through the clockport!

thinlega · 08 November 2002, 19:13

yeah....what i want is a tracker for the amiga that can do all the usual amiga tracker stuff *BUT* uses the sid chip as well !

4 amiga sample channels and 3 sid synth channels!!!!

If anyone knows someone who could make this kind of program or adapt protracker to do this ..... please get them to do it!!!!!

26 October 2002, 22:12	#1
kriz Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: No(R)Way Age: 41 Posts: 3,185	Catweasel MK3 PCI/Flipper !! Catweasel MK3 PCI/Flipper:four-in-one controller for emulation support. Hehe this looks like a great new card for pc or amiga. It is a floppy controller, amiga keyboard interface, joystick interface and possibility to connect a sid chip (for real sound!). Hehe even cooler is it that the board can fith both a pci port and a zorro slot (flip card ) 1200 clock connector is also availible ... http://www.jschoenfeld.de/products/cwmk3_e.htm looks really good ... want one

07 November 2002, 04:49	#14
jmmijo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Age: 62 Posts: 2,395	Software Hut Looks like Software Hut in PA will be carrying this card soon: http://www.softhut.com/cgi-bin/test/...=3959461_20700

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26 October 2002, 22:53	#2
cv643d Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 762	Damn i knew I shouldnt have bought my fu*in Hardsid card 3 years ago.. its a damn ISA card, and ISA is dead! Maybe I can sell it as a "OMG l00k rare" collectors card on ebay and buy this one so I can enjoy true SID sounds in theh modarn computars... theh win!?

26 October 2002, 22:55	#3
jmmijo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Age: 62 Posts: 2,395	Yes this does look like a nice board

27 October 2002, 02:29	#4
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	Damn! I can't find a single reason to not buy one! How much does that thing come to in US $ (I'm useless translating Euros...) If it's reasonable, I'll order mine right now.

27 October 2002, 07:21	#7
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	Well, it's a tad bit pricey, but not really when you consider all it does.

27 October 2002, 11:39	#8
RetroMan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Germany Age: 51 Posts: 3,704	Yup This seems to be a nice bit of Hardware, I´ll also consider to buy one in the near future ....

04 November 2002, 23:58	#10
thinlega .:Part-Time Winner:. Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: UK Posts: 531	do you think anyone will make some sid composing software for an amiga fitted with this card???..... If not WHY NOT!!!! god damn it!!!!!:eek

05 November 2002, 00:26	#11
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,644	That would be awesome. !

07 November 2002, 00:03	#13
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,644	A good question now. I'm planning to save the 109 bucks the SID+Clockport one costs but... is there ANY program that supports this nice device already? I am hoping for Eagletracker support, for example... On the PC nothing supports it yet, or does it come with builtin drivers for teh joysticks and stuff? Just curious, Im not in the position to blow 100 bucks for an unsuported piece of hardware, no matter how brilliant it is.

07 November 2002, 17:36	#15
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	My CW MK3 WinUAE support plans: - external Amiga keyboard: very simple to implement - joystick ports 1: joysticks + 1 button/joystick: very simple 2: joysticks + 2 or 3 buttons/joystick: SID required, more complex 3: CD32 pad: unfortunately not possible (CW hardware limitation, buttons 2 and 3 can't be outputs) 4: Amiga mouse: possible only in theory. (would need huge amounts of CPU power for polling the mouse because CW lacks hardware mouse counters) - floppy drive 1: ZorroII emulation and using Amiga side driver: quite simple 2: "Direct" DF0/DF1/DF2/DF3 support. complex. I have not ecided yet. I might release "special" CW-WinUAE version after basic joystick and keyboard support is complete. (December?) fiath: I guess your "reason" also excludes joystick and keyboard ports?

08 November 2002, 05:02	#16
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,644	That sounds fab Toni! However let me refine my question Any AMIGA developments that will support this beauty? I want to connect this to my A1200, not my PC. I'll still try the catweasel on the PC when/if I buy it But the priority is the 1200

08 November 2002, 19:13	#20
thinlega .:Part-Time Winner:. Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: UK Posts: 531	yeah....what i want is a tracker for the amiga that can do all the usual amiga tracker stuff BUT uses the sid chip as well ! 4 amiga sample channels and 3 sid synth channels!!!! If anyone knows someone who could make this kind of program or adapt protracker to do this ..... please get them to do it!!!!!

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