The Amiga (HW) scene sucks - Page 2

mfletcher · 03 July 2008, 16:55

But, as you keep pointing out every time someone starts a thread with the title: "Why cant we create a hardware upgrade XYZ", you're always the first to respond that it would be too expensive to design and then implement.

If theres no new hardware, dont expect the existing stock to go cheap. Deal with it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

They are like vultures circling a dying animal.

Last week someone decided to sell their DKB3128 on Ebay, (the price for these has been going up steadily over the last few years), auction lasted 10 seconds as someone bought it for $299 buy it now.

Not bad... but now having seen what they could be worth everyone who has one of these cards is scrambling to cash it in

$600 buy it now

Sheesh our community is shallow, money orientated!

mfletcher · 03 July 2008, 16:57

Im surprised that A500's in reasonable quality are not fetching at least $100 USD, to be honest. I was hoping to buy up some old A500's, upgrade the kickstart to 3.1, supply some original WB disks, clean them up and sell them at $10 profit for my time, but its not possible now.

alexh · 03 July 2008, 17:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfletcher

If theres no new hardware, dont expect the existing stock to go cheap. Deal with it.

Surely some of the Amiga users out there should have left the scene / got married or something?? There should be more about today than before!

StingRay · 03 July 2008, 17:15

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Originally Posted by alexh

Surely some of the Amiga users out there should have left the scene / got married or something?? There should be more about today than before!

I don't think so, many people just buy Amiga HW just in case their old stuff breaks down smth. Like I mentioned I bought the MK II, I don't really need it yet as I'm happy with my MKI and never use my other A4000 anyway. But just in case the MKI should die one day I can easily replace it.

Anubis · 03 July 2008, 17:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yotoxionomai

To Dizzy: If you want to start a retro museum i could sent you my mother-in-law...

Polite way to tell him to plan on huge rooms??

As for Amiga stuff, here in USA it's more expensive and rare then in Eu. For last 13 years I haven't seen single Amiga hw on sale on Garage Sales or in local new paper?!

mfletcher · 03 July 2008, 17:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

Surely some of the Amiga users out there should have left the scene / got married or something?? There should be more about today than before!

Perhaps, but it doesnt offset the attrition in hardware failing over time. Also Id imagine that some people just end up binning the hardware after a while rather that going to the hassle of putting it up on Ebay. Its a sad situation.

Fortunately we have WinUAE to keep the Amiga alive in digitial form.

jabsy · 03 July 2008, 18:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by boing_1000

Exactly right. I started my Catweasel out at $.99 cents and it ballooned to 222.50. I mean, if people want to pay that much for this stuff, to each his own, I suppose.

Was that yours in the last fortnight or so???

I was bidding on that but lost out, it went for too much. I probably went up to $200....

Then Mr AmigaKit saved the day by getting some new stock in so I grabbed a couple off him!

mfletcher · 03 July 2008, 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anubis

Polite way to tell him to plan on huge rooms??

As for Amiga stuff, here in USA it's more expensive and rare then in Eu. For last 13 years I haven't seen single Amiga hw on sale on Garage Sales or in local new paper?!

Only Amiga stuff Ive seen in US was either on Craigslist or Fleabay. Its my understanding that the likes of Doomy uses Craigslist to get stuff.

boing_1000 · 03 July 2008, 18:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by jabsy

Was that yours in the last fortnight or so???

I was bidding on that but lost out, it went for too much. I probably went up to $200....

Then Mr AmigaKit saved the day by getting some new stock in so I grabbed a couple off him!

Ya that was mine! Believe me I thought it was ridiculous as well. I'm glad you got one from Amigakit, and I'm glad the person that bought it was impatient, now I can pay for school expenses!

alewis · 08 July 2008, 22:04

its worth what someone will pay.

i sold my A4000s off last year, and my B2000 back in 2005. In a couple of years time I'll be trying to buy them back, and if the owner wants more than he paid... so what.

I'm selling off my retro stuff as I've had it for years, and still get the teary eyes when I fire up Galaxians on the TRS-80, but I rarely use it anymore even for that memory lane trip. Its whatever it is worth.

Sure, there is always emulation, but it aint the same. And yeah, it sticks in the craw someone trying to sell something at an "inflated" price.. but lets be honest, if you had the disposable funds, what would you pay???

Boot_WB · 08 July 2008, 22:12

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Originally Posted by alexh

I just dont like to see these miserable little worms coming out of the woodwork.

Then why (in your own words) do you watch all of the auctions?

Boot_WB · 08 July 2008, 22:21

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Originally Posted by Chain

martin-flash and lord-spider

try allegro.pl, they have accounts here too and you can see how much profit they have by simply re-selling it on egay

fuck them

And what about that Amigakit eh?

I used to do exactly the same thing several years ago - logging onto Ebay.de to buy Amiga hardware cheaper than was available on Ebay.co.uk. I'd then sell off my excess stuff and buying slightly higher spec with the money - I slowly climbed the hardware ladder, with several snakes on the way where hardware was broken, or on its last legs. It was the only way - as a student - that I could afford to upgrade.

If I see a ridiculous bargain on Ebay I sometimes still do the same - if the transactions are honest, what is your problem with it?

What I DON'T do is PM people offering a pittance for their valuable hardware, misrepresenting the value so that I can acquire it and make a huge profit, but then I doubt that LordSpider does that either. Having seen many of his auctions over the years, he is usually selling good quality gear. From his feedback I'd say that everyone is happy. Except you and Alex of course

:

OT - Does anyone know if Lordspider and LortMulat one and the same? Auctions and user names are disturbingly similar.. /OT

Regards

Rich

Paul_s · 08 July 2008, 22:23

How much

I wouldn't entertain paying silly prices for Amiga gear.

Anyway, if I need a fast Amiga I'll just use WinUAE to emulate and then pay the money saved on some hookers/beer and they can join me in bed with my standard cd32

Retro-Nerd · 08 July 2008, 22:27

You still sleep with you Amigas (computer!!), Paul?

Dizzy · 08 July 2008, 22:44

he change it with a c128

alewis · 08 July 2008, 22:53

I'd love an A1000.. and a C128D.... but funds aint what they used to be...

TCD · 08 July 2008, 23:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dizzy

he change it with a c128

It must have a big floppy drive

Paul_s · 12 July 2008, 20:12

The magazines are getting the same treatment it seems also

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Amiga-Power-ma...3286.m14.l1318

alexh · 12 July 2008, 20:34

15 issues plus binders at currently £2.60 per issue. It's getting towards the top of it's worth but not a totally silly price... yet.

alewis · 15 July 2008, 11:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexh

They are like vultures circling a dying animal.

Sheesh our community is shallow, money orientated!

So we can look forwards to *rock bottom* prices if you leave the scene and sell your hardware :-)

Alex, you could kickstart the whole scene by donating me (now Amiga-less) *all* your kit... then the scene woulc rock

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03 July 2008, 16:57	#22
mfletcher Bawbag. Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chicago, USA Posts: 375	Im surprised that A500's in reasonable quality are not fetching at least $100 USD, to be honest. I was hoping to buy up some old A500's, upgrade the kickstart to 3.1, supply some original WB disks, clean them up and sell them at $10 profit for my time, but its not possible now.

08 July 2008, 22:04	#30
alewis Monochrome and 8 bit Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Underbarrow, Gods Country Age: 57 Posts: 600	its worth what someone will pay. i sold my A4000s off last year, and my B2000 back in 2005. In a couple of years time I'll be trying to buy them back, and if the owner wants more than he paid... so what. I'm selling off my retro stuff as I've had it for years, and still get the teary eyes when I fire up Galaxians on the TRS-80, but I rarely use it anymore even for that memory lane trip. Its whatever it is worth. Sure, there is always emulation, but it aint the same. And yeah, it sticks in the craw someone trying to sell something at an "inflated" price.. but lets be honest, if you had the disposable funds, what would you pay???

08 July 2008, 22:23	#33
Paul_s Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amigaville Age: 46 Posts: 3,334	How much I wouldn't entertain paying silly prices for Amiga gear. Anyway, if I need a fast Amiga I'll just use WinUAE to emulate and then pay the money saved on some hookers/beer and they can join me in bed with my standard cd32

08 July 2008, 22:27	#34
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,438	You still sleep with you Amigas (computer!!), Paul?

08 July 2008, 22:44	#35
Dizzy Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,395	he change it with a c128

08 July 2008, 22:53	#36
alewis Monochrome and 8 bit Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Underbarrow, Gods Country Age: 57 Posts: 600	I'd love an A1000.. and a C128D.... but funds aint what they used to be...

12 July 2008, 20:12	#38
Paul_s Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Amigaville Age: 46 Posts: 3,334	The magazines are getting the same treatment it seems also http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Amiga-Power-ma...3286.m14.l1318

12 July 2008, 20:34	#39
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,340	15 issues plus binders at currently £2.60 per issue. It's getting towards the top of it's worth but not a totally silly price... yet.

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