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Old 15 February 2012, 02:09   #101
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Gateway was taken over by Acer so I would speculate: they are now the owners of the Amiga patents, brands etc.
There are publicly accessible databases for patents, trademarks and domains, and they show that the trademarks and the domain are indeed owned by Amiga Inc. There's absolutely no need to speculate here: Amiga Inc. (at least one of their many incarnations) does own the trademarks.

Gateway (Acer) does indeed own the patents, but they are pretty useless by now.

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Almost all trademarks have expired.
The important one ("Amiga") didn't, a complete (and very long) list can be found here:

http://aminet.net/package/docs/misc/Amiga-Trademarks

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It is unclear who really owns AmigaOS and Kickstart right now. ESCOM did not own them in the first place.
Another inaccurate claim. It's not clear if ESCOM owned them, they very well may have. Not that it matters anymore...
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Old 15 February 2012, 04:44   #102
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I've been out of the scene for over 10 years, so I was just wondering what had been happening.

When I left Bill and co were just getting up and running with Amiga Inc, and when I returned (couple of weeks ago) Bill and Co are still running Amiga Inc. As far as I can tell? they haven't done anything, except repeating the same old stories, as reported in the last few issues of the AF.


I spent a few hours reading up on the 3 different Amiga Inc, and court-case/copyright issues man I'm so sorry I went down that rabbit hole!! I sort of always assumed that: bill and ted were a little on the 'walter mitty' side, with their long imaginative story telling but yet, I ask myself something rather interesting: how can someone run a company with zero products, and zero sales (except tacky mice and mouse mats) for over ten years? I reckon they should write a book about it! now that would be a best seller

Bill and Ted's bogus adventure?


On a positive note:the Natami looks pretty good tangible and real?

PS: I was pmsl at one of the Gateway/Acer patents! The 2 button mouse

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Old 15 February 2012, 11:22   #103
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The freeamiga site suggests AInc played some role in the investors' business schemes that had nothing to do with computers or Amiga in particular.

Natami looks quite cool, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it. I suppose Aros and emulation are the way to go, but that's only me.
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Old 17 February 2012, 20:28   #104
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I do hope they pull-off the Natami As I would like to buy one

Seriously!! wot sort of Muppet, would lose the trademark of 'Workbench'!! It's like Microsoft losing 'Windows' or IBM losing the right to call their computers 'PC'.

BTW: According to a few things I've read on the net (from reliable sources) Gateway is a sub-division of Acer, and technically: Gateway is still regarded as a private company, and all legal agreements/contracts are still current.


In my humble opinion: Bill and Ted's copyrights/trademarks are based on a legal agreement with Gateway. At some point in the future: Acer might decided to enter into the 'very' profitable console market with a large Chinese partner
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Old 16 July 2018, 15:57   #105
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Whats that now???

"Do you remember when Amiga
meant friend? We do."

Anybody knows?
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Old 16 July 2018, 17:41   #106
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They left this in the page source, if anyone can make sense of it:

<!-- Rirel 33 lrnef... -->
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Old 16 July 2018, 19:26   #107
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It's ROT13 for 'Every 33 years.'
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Old 16 July 2018, 19:44   #108
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Maybe they're re-opening on the 23rd, Amiga's 33rd birthday.
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Old 18 July 2018, 22:07   #109
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its called buy a vampire
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Old 19 July 2018, 02:05   #110
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Hmmmm… A-Eon and Amistore pages are almost dead, almost no link is working in either one, and now everyone is looking at amiga.com… Coincidence?

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Old 23 July 2018, 17:36   #111
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source code now says
<!-- 2B7DE69877C89AB038ADC85E65E64C82FF1AFB4F3224A9DE44BFACFAB990E333 -->


I don't really want to get into one of those augmented reality ad campaigns, or whatever they were called 10-15 years ago, but I also am curious what that decodes to. It doesn't translate into clean ASCII text.
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Old 23 July 2018, 17:54   #112
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It's probably the SHA-256 hash of "Only two more weeks..." or something funny like that.
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Old 31 July 2018, 00:54   #113
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Whats that now???
Amiga the end ?
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Old 03 September 2018, 21:51   #114
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assembly

If this is object code, then the disassembly would be something like this:

Code:
   .data:00000000 2b 7d        .short 0x2b7d
   .data:00000002 e6 98        rorl #3,%d0
   .data:00000004 77 c8        .short 0x77c8
   .data:00000006 9a b0 38 ad  subl %a0@(ffffffffffffffad,%d3:l),%d5
   .data:0000000a c8 5e        andw %fp@+,%d4
   .data:0000000c 65 e6        bcss 0xfffffffffffffff4
   .data:0000000e 4c 82        .short 0x4c82
   .data:00000010 ff 1a        .short 0xff1a
   .data:00000012 fb 4f        .short 0xfb4f
   .data:00000014 32 24        movew %a4@-,%d1
   .data:00000016 a9 de        .short 0xa9de
   .data:00000018 44 bf        .short 0x44bf
   .data:0000001a ac fa        .short 0xacfa
   .data:0000001c b9 90        eorl %d4,%a0@
   .data:0000001e e3 33        roxlb %d1,%d3
Assuming I didn't screw up the endianness.
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It's not an object file. I'm guessing it's a 256-bit hash, or the output of some 256-bit block cipher, a (big) step up from ROT13.

I'm assuming it's Cloanto who have bought the domain. Who knows what's coming...
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Old 04 September 2018, 00:08   #116
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uh you guys do know it's been back up for a little while now
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Old 04 September 2018, 00:10   #117
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uh you guys do know it's been back up for a little while now
The discussion is not about amiga.org, but https://amiga.com/

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Old 04 September 2018, 05:39   #118
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The discussion is not about amiga.org, but https://amiga.com/

ah the snowman maker site carry on then
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Old 04 September 2018, 05:41   #119
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ah the snowman maker site carry on then
If only you took your time to read the thread.
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It's not an object file. I'm guessing it's a 256-bit hash, or the output of some 256-bit block cipher, a (big) step up from ROT13.

I'm assuming it's Cloanto who have bought the domain. Who knows what's coming...
It is probably a SHA-256 which could indicate blockchain.

It says "Do you remember when Amiga meant friend? We do." There is an OS called Friend which is built for the blockchain era, as they say in their Whitepaper.

While that kind of connects, how it would really connect to the Amiga is beyond me. Why would they want to use the Amiga name for this? It makes no sense. So I am hopefully wrong.

(I do not want to put a link here, it is far away from Amiga, google manually if you are interested.)
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