WinUAE Sound Bug demonstration! (Video)

QBit · 15 March 2018, 23:49

Watch here:

[ Show youtube player ]

Keatah · 16 March 2018, 01:26

So. What are we supposed to listen for?

DamienD · 16 March 2018, 01:57

Heya Qbit,

Firstly, welcome to EAB

*full* logs / configuration file may help Toni / us

...and I should also mention; Toni never watches videos

chip · 16 March 2018, 05:56

Hi QBit, welcome to the forum

Sorry for the video but like Toni i never watch them

So, can you explain by words, which is the bug ?

Foebane · 16 March 2018, 07:44

I took the time to look at (and listen to) the video in question, and as far as I can tell, the purpose of QBit's video is why can't he run two music module players/trackers at the same time without crashing WinUAE? When the players play individually by themselves, there's no problem, but when he forces two to play at once, the audio becomes garbled. The thing is, the audio stutters badly when he starts up a web browser after opening one module player, so he's pushing the system resources as it is.

QBit, it's best to describe the problem succinctly and provide logs for Toni to work from. It takes time to decipher a video, and it is not always clear what the problem is without comment or even a description.

meynaf · 16 March 2018, 08:32

By the sound it's easy to recognise buffer underruns.
Looks like winuae running with a heavy configuration (big resolution with filters, etc) on a machine that's much too slow for that.

The OP should go windowed and check what happens to cpu% and sound%.

QBit · 16 March 2018, 13:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by meynaf

By the sound it's easy to recognise buffer underruns.
Looks like winuae running with a heavy configuration (big resolution with filters, etc) on a machine that's much too slow for that.

The OP should go windowed and check what happens to cpu% and sound%.

I have a Core i7 so it should be fast enough..

but somebody did another Test:

[ Show youtube player ]

So it is possible.
How do I make WinUAE create logs?

When I run Protracker 4 and Eagleplayer at the same time Sound works!

Video:

[ Show youtube player ]

DamienD · 16 March 2018, 13:36

Heya QBit,

Launch WinUAE.
Select "Paths" and tick "Enable full logging".
Start your config or Quickstart.

Run until a little after the issue to make sure it's been captured and then quit WinUAE.

These files will be in your WinUAE path:

a) winuaebootlog.txt
b) winuaelog.txt

Also attach your configuration file (.UAE)

Toni Wilen · 16 March 2018, 14:17

Not enough information without checking the video (which is far too long).

So lets guess something: using 2 tracker players that both directly use Paula. which of course it can't work. Working condition most likely is AHI + Paula or AHI x 2.

AMIGASYSTEM · 16 March 2018, 14:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foebane

When the players play individually by themselves, there's no problem, but when he forces two to play at once, the audio becomes garbled. The thing is, the audio stutters badly when he starts up a web browser after opening one module player, so he's pushing the system resources as it is.

It's not really like that

[ Show youtube player ]

meynaf · 16 March 2018, 14:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by QBit

I have a Core i7 so it should be fast enough..

Not necessarily. But it may also be the emulated cpu that's not fast enough. A good indication for this is the scopes in your video : they nearly completely freeze, meaning not enough cpu power.

Quote:

Originally Posted by QBit

When I run Protracker 4 and Eagleplayer at the same time Sound works!

This alone is looking for trouble.
I assume it's not regular Paula output, which would have caused audio channel allocation errors.
So it's AHI = cpu hog = buffer underruns.

Solution 1 : activate JIT, set as "fastest possible".
Solution 2 : remove AHI noteplayer from DT2.
Solution 3 : try again in windowed mode. Might change more things than you think.

Toni Wilen · 16 March 2018, 14:57

Quote:

D3D11CreateDevice succeeded with level 11.1. Software WARP driver.

This is not good idea. Misc panel, change it to Hardware.

Mclane · 16 March 2018, 15:06

Betting the cfg is loaded to the max with CPU intensive stuff..And probably a setup that never existed in real life..

QBit · 16 March 2018, 15:17

Well with WinUAE 3.6.1 beta 7 I haven't got these problems and it works much better!

A proof Video:

[ Show youtube player ]

32 Bit version of this beta Amiga OS sometimes crashes with this beta and this test!

AMIGASYSTEM · 16 March 2018, 18:58

Tested 3.6.1 Stable and it works great, Played 3 Mp3 at the same time finally start also Plug-In AmigaAmp

[ Show youtube player ]

Foebane · 16 March 2018, 21:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

It's not really like that

So I misinterpreted the video. I know I'm not the only one who would.

QBit · 17 March 2018, 11:06

There are still some little Issues in WinUAE 3.6.1 Beta 7.. sometimes it crashes on this test.. I ahave logs_

Toni Wilen · 17 March 2018, 15:07

Why do you use beta? (Especially when there is only one change in final 3.6.1 which has nothing to do with your problem)

And what kind of crash? Log shows no crashes, do you mean emulated Amiga crashes?

15 March 2018, 23:49	#1
QBit Registered User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Paderborn/Germany Posts: 19	WinUAE Sound Bug demonstration! (Video) Watch here: [ Show youtube player ]

16 March 2018, 13:36	#8
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Heya QBit, Launch WinUAE. Select "Paths" and tick "Enable full logging". Start your config or Quickstart. Run until a little after the issue to make sure it's been captured and then quit WinUAE. These files will be in your WinUAE path: a) winuaebootlog.txt b) winuaelog.txt Also attach your configuration file (.UAE)

16 March 2018, 15:17	#14
QBit Registered User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Paderborn/Germany Posts: 19	Well with WinUAE 3.6.1 beta 7 I haven't got these problems and it works much better! A proof Video: [ Show youtube player ] 32 Bit version of this beta Amiga OS sometimes crashes with this beta and this test! Last edited by QBit; 16 March 2018 at 17:34. Reason: edit

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16 March 2018, 01:26	#2
Keatah Registered User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Chicago IL Posts: 27	So. What are we supposed to listen for?

16 March 2018, 01:57	#3
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	Heya Qbit, Firstly, welcome to EAB full logs / configuration file may help Toni / us ...and I should also mention; Toni never watches videos

16 March 2018, 05:56	#4
chip Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Italy Age: 49 Posts: 2,942	Hi QBit, welcome to the forum Sorry for the video but like Toni i never watch them So, can you explain by words, which is the bug ?

16 March 2018, 07:44	#5
Foebane Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Cardiff, UK Age: 51 Posts: 2,871	I took the time to look at (and listen to) the video in question, and as far as I can tell, the purpose of QBit's video is why can't he run two music module players/trackers at the same time without crashing WinUAE? When the players play individually by themselves, there's no problem, but when he forces two to play at once, the audio becomes garbled. The thing is, the audio stutters badly when he starts up a web browser after opening one module player, so he's pushing the system resources as it is. QBit, it's best to describe the problem succinctly and provide logs for Toni to work from. It takes time to decipher a video, and it is not always clear what the problem is without comment or even a description.

16 March 2018, 08:32	#6
meynaf son of 68k Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lyon / France Age: 51 Posts: 5,323	By the sound it's easy to recognise buffer underruns. Looks like winuae running with a heavy configuration (big resolution with filters, etc) on a machine that's much too slow for that. The OP should go windowed and check what happens to cpu% and sound%.

16 March 2018, 14:17	#9
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,518	Not enough information without checking the video (which is far too long). So lets guess something: using 2 tracker players that both directly use Paula. which of course it can't work. Working condition most likely is AHI + Paula or AHI x 2.

16 March 2018, 15:06	#13
Mclane Old retro god. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northolt, West London Age: 62 Posts: 857	Betting the cfg is loaded to the max with CPU intensive stuff..And probably a setup that never existed in real life..

16 March 2018, 18:58	#15
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,252	Tested 3.6.1 Stable and it works great, Played 3 Mp3 at the same time finally start also Plug-In AmigaAmp [ Show youtube player ]

17 March 2018, 15:07	#18
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,518	Why do you use beta? (Especially when there is only one change in final 3.6.1 which has nothing to do with your problem) And what kind of crash? Log shows no crashes, do you mean emulated Amiga crashes?

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