Accelerator board ROM - Page 3

Tomislav · 07 December 2020, 12:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by GianDO

Unfortunately I can't access The Zone! It tells me "your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page".

Read this for accessing The Zone: http://eab.abime.net/faq.php?faq=vb_...ezone_faq_item

GianDO · 07 December 2020, 13:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomislav

Read this for accessing The Zone: http://eab.abime.net/faq.php?faq=vb_...ezone_faq_item

Thank you very much

GianDO · 07 December 2020, 13:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Check the zone. (expansion_boot_roms.zip)

If you want to match it in emulation, note that because logically SCSI is separate device (ROM contains only SCSI driver, there is nothing accelerator specific) and RAM is normal Z2: there is no need for emulated Hardital accelerator board.

- Manually set CPU = 68030
- Set Z2 RAM size (I forgot to set RAM expansion autoconfig ID, next version will automatically have 256/0 Z2 board autoconfig ID when Synthesis is enabeld)
- Enable Hardital Synthesis (Expansions panel), set ROM.
- Add hardfile to Synthesis controller.

I downloaded the ZIP file and saw that you inserted the Synthesis SCSI controller ROM. I went to the expansions panel in WinUAE, but I don't see how I can enable Hardital Synthsis to connect the ROM to it ..

Toni Wilen · 07 December 2020, 15:15

It is only in latest beta. Or simply select ICD AdSCSI but select Hardital ROM

GianDO · 07 December 2020, 17:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

It is only in latest beta. Or simply select ICD AdSCSI but select Hardital ROM

Ok thank you, I try with AdSCSI now, but can I download the latest beta too?

DamienD · 07 December 2020, 17:58

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Originally Posted by GianDO

Ok thank you, I try with AdSCSI now, but can I download the latest beta too?

Yes, see here

WinUAE 4.5.0 beta series

GianDO · 07 December 2020, 23:03

thank you very much

GianDO · 08 December 2020, 00:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Check the zone. (expansion_boot_roms.zip)

If you want to match it in emulation, note that because logically SCSI is separate device (ROM contains only SCSI driver, there is nothing accelerator specific) and RAM is normal Z2: there is no need for emulated Hardital accelerator board.

- Manually set CPU = 68030
- Set Z2 RAM size (I forgot to set RAM expansion autoconfig ID, next version will automatically have 256/0 Z2 board autoconfig ID when Synthesis is enabeld)
- Enable Hardital Synthesis (Expansions panel), set ROM.
- Add hardfile to Synthesis controller.

Hi,
I did some tests and it seems to work quite well, the only thing that cannot be emulated remains the RAM of the accelerator card which in the real machine is added to the Z2 memory. Is it possible to do it?

Thanks

DamienD · 08 December 2020, 11:34

Can you not just add Z2 Fast memory under the RAM section?

GianDO · 08 December 2020, 11:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

Can you not just add Z2 Fast memory under the RAM section?

Yes I can do it, but I would only have 8MB at most, while on the accelerator card I would have another 8 that are added to the existing ones for a total of 16MB (on the real A2000).

GianDO · 15 December 2020, 01:00

@Toni

Hi,
In my real Amiga in addition to the Hardital SuperBig Bang accelerator card I also have a GVP Impact A2000-HC + 8 SCSI2 controller.
I am trying to create an A2000 in WinUAE, but I only see 8 MB RAM and not 16. How is this possible?

Thanks
G

alexh · 15 December 2020, 10:24

If what you're saying is true and you really can have 16MB of FastRAM I think that must mean your accelerator doesn't map it's RAM to the Zorro II address space? (which is only 8 MB) But into 32-bit address space?

That sort of goes against what has previously been said in this thread doesn't it?

32-bit FastRAM would only be available when the 68030 was active. It wouldn't be available in 68000 mode.

I think there are (at least) three ways (three address regions) you can add 32-bit FastRAM in WinUAE,

# Zorro3 memory,
# A3000/A4000 motherboard memory,
# CPU slot memory.

Toni will know which region your card maps to.

That is if I'm correct, I may be wrong.

It could be a limitation of AmigaOS when you have two Zorro II FastRAM cards, both populated with 8MB, occupying the same address space, the same 8MB is counted twice but you only really have 8MB?

GianDO · 15 December 2020, 11:39

The RAM of the accelerator card is automatically mapped when there is no other RAM on the A2000. On the other hand, when 8 MB Zorro II are already present in the system, the only way to map the 8 MB of Fast RAM of the accelerator card is to do it manually with the appropriate software command supplied with the accelerator card. This command can then be inserted in the startup-sequence to make it happen automatically at each startup.

Toni Wilen · 15 December 2020, 14:16

Include usual "showconfig debug" output with extra RAM enabled.

15 December 2020, 10:24	#52
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 12,552	If what you're saying is true and you really can have 16MB of FastRAM I think that must mean your accelerator doesn't map it's RAM to the Zorro II address space? (which is only 8 MB) But into 32-bit address space? That sort of goes against what has previously been said in this thread doesn't it? 32-bit FastRAM would only be available when the 68030 was active. It wouldn't be available in 68000 mode. I think there are (at least) three ways (three address regions) you can add 32-bit FastRAM in WinUAE, # Zorro3 memory, # A3000/A4000 motherboard memory, # CPU slot memory. Toni will know which region your card maps to. That is if I'm correct, I may be wrong. It could be a limitation of AmigaOS when you have two Zorro II FastRAM cards, both populated with 8MB, occupying the same address space, the same 8MB is counted twice but you only really have 8MB? Last edited by alexh; 15 December 2020 at 10:37.

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07 December 2020, 15:15	#44
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 45 Posts: 24,538	It is only in latest beta. Or simply select ICD AdSCSI but select Hardital ROM

07 December 2020, 23:03	#47
GianDO Registered User Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Siena - Italy Posts: 28	thank you very much

08 December 2020, 11:34	#49
DamienD disengaged Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 44 Posts: 19,137	Can you not just add Z2 Fast memory under the RAM section?

15 December 2020, 01:00	#51
GianDO Registered User Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Siena - Italy Posts: 28	@Toni Hi, In my real Amiga in addition to the Hardital SuperBig Bang accelerator card I also have a GVP Impact A2000-HC + 8 SCSI2 controller. I am trying to create an A2000 in WinUAE, but I only see 8 MB RAM and not 16. How is this possible? Thanks G

15 December 2020, 11:39	#53
GianDO Registered User Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Siena - Italy Posts: 28	The RAM of the accelerator card is automatically mapped when there is no other RAM on the A2000. On the other hand, when 8 MB Zorro II are already present in the system, the only way to map the 8 MB of Fast RAM of the accelerator card is to do it manually with the appropriate software command supplied with the accelerator card. This command can then be inserted in the startup-sequence to make it happen automatically at each startup.

15 December 2020, 14:16	#54
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 45 Posts: 24,538	Include usual "showconfig debug" output with extra RAM enabled.

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