Amiga Soundtracker / Protracker Competition

[StevenMarshall]

The original idea was actually to submit a song, rather than a module. That way a user loads a song which then loads samples off the ST-01 disk. The "retro style". That was original thought for this game/competition. (Unfortunately Song would be a little bit tricky to play on stand alone player, hence the module in the end.)

In other words: let's see what one can compose, rather what one can do in sound design department.


Bottom line:
The whole accent here is on retro 100%. Original Soundtracker did not have resample function.

[Amiga1992]

Resampling is *hardly* "sound design"

[daxb]

I is important to make clear rulez. So long it makes no sense to start anything. Make a deadline. For example end of year if you don`t want to make a deadline. Write the rulez down. Incl. samples have to stay original...

[Amiga1992]

YEah that's something else: you would have to include the list of samples intended for use. Those ST-XX disks have been tampered with many times. There's no assurance what one has the other one does.

[musojon74]

Resampling isn't sound design. It's allowing enough note range to compose. Actually I will just compose using samples from st 01 and dump it on my webspace. The. If it doesn't qualify - meh.

[mazxim]

Hells calls hell. May Olof Gustafsson's soul be with you! It is expected nothing than awesomeness

(it's still something unexplained to me how that guy made that Pinball Fantasies's intro without FL Studio..)

[StevenMarshall]

Originally Posted by musojon74

Resampling isn't sound design. It's allowing enough note range to compose.

Yes, that's true. But you can also combine several notes with Protracker into a chord which then gets resampled and classifies as "resample". Who guarantees some other ppl won't use that function as well.

Anyway, you got me thinking about this issue and i think the best "retro" catch would be - to require for the track to be composed in original Soundtracker.

I've just installed one and will spend some time testing and seeing which features are "missing" from the Protracker that we are all used to. If too many, then i guess we should leave it to Protracker and pitch-resampling as well.

Originally Posted by Akira

YEah that's something else: you would have to include the list of samples intended for use. Those ST-XX disks have been tampered with many times. There's no assurance what one has the other one does.

I thought this problem was solved in the first post of this thread. No?

[StevenMarshall]

Originally Posted by daxb

I is important to make clear rulez. So long it makes no sense to start anything. Make a deadline.

I'm in the process of gathering ppl first. I will try to bring some old Amiga names as well.

Once we count our numbers then we together agree on the deadline. The winner gets a virtual sixpack of nice cold beer.

[musojon74]

Originally Posted by StevenMarshall

Yes, that's true. But you can also combine several notes with Protracker into a chord which then gets resampled and classifies as "resample". Who guarantees some other ppl won't use that function as well.

Ahh ok I see your point. Well I'm in if I can just double the pitch of a sample (that's what I meant by resample). I won't do any of that making a chord out of a sample stuff!

[StevenMarshall]

Ok, i've just tried the old Soundtracker and.... OMG. Near impossible to work after getting used to Protracker and all the commands and UI.

So i guess we'll shift to the Protracker and resampling as an allowed option. Taper (small fade in/out) at the sample ends to smooth out the (clicky) loop should be allowed too.

[daxb]

Suggestion: If someone edit samples then he/she has to write it in the sample text for easy check. E.g. smp #5 removed click.

Btw. I can`t download the zip with IBrowse. Can someone lha the samples and put it into TheZone?

[prowler]

Originally Posted by daxb

Btw. I can`t download the zip with IBrowse. Can someone lha the samples and put it into TheZone?

Try this instead:
http://aminet.net/mods/inst/st-01.lha

[StevenMarshall]

Originally Posted by Shoonay

Post info on modules.pl too

EDIT:

I've contacted Adam (i think is his name), he appears to administrate the site, and got informed that the post has been open in there.

[StevenMarshall]

Originally Posted by prowler

Try this instead:
http://aminet.net/mods/inst/st-01.lha

Yup! That will work. This is from where i got my samples from.

[daxb]

Originally Posted by prowler

Try this instead:
http://aminet.net/mods/inst/st-01.lha

Thanks!

[Amiga1992]

Originally Posted by StevenMarshall

Yes, that's true. But you can also combine several notes with Protracker into a chord which then gets resampled and classifies as "resample".

Nah, that's the CHORD function, not resample :P Also I don't think 2.3D has it.

Sountracker doesn't work on anything, it would be ridiculous to use it. I think settling on PT1.3 or 2.3d, which are the most popular ones and run on almost every computer, should be good.

(didn't see the ST-01.zip file on the original post. Woops! :P)

[gibs]

A preview of what I've just done while I was at the phone tonight

[ Show youtube player ]

[Amiga1992]

You're using PT1.3 or Soundtracker?
Nice one!

[gibs]

Pt2.3d

[StingRay]

Originally Posted by Akira

I don't want to use new samples, I was talking about resampling, as in taking the sample into Protracker and resampling it so I can get a new range of the freq-spectrum. You understand what I mean?

Yes I did.

Originally Posted by Akira

It is well understood only the samples from the ST-01 disk are allowed, but what I propose is something you can do with them inside PT once you have loaded them.

Which means they are not the original ST-01 samples anymore. What exactly was the point of this very compo?