Disk copiers

DPainter · 10 December 2001, 18:27

Does anyone have newer versions of the following disk copy tools:

ProjectD 1.1
Lockpick v2
Maverick Amiga 5.0
Marauder II Brain File 10 (where is the parameter list for this thing?)

These have been a great help in my quest to dump originals.

Amiga1992 · 10 December 2001, 18:40

I have to check versions, but I think I haev Project D.... and the Marauder II Brain File. Will check

Twistin'Ghost · 10 December 2001, 18:52

OK, I will upload most of this stuff.

ProjectD: while I have v1.1 somewhere, I'll have to dig it up tonight after work. In the meantime, I have handy 1.0, 1.3.1, v2 (5/91), 2.0, 2.1, and 3.16.

Marauder II Brainfile 10 (I'll send up the parameter list, as well)

DPainter · 10 December 2001, 19:00

Quote:

Originally posted by Twistin' Ghost
OK, I will upload most of this stuff.

ProjectD: while I have v1.1 somewhere, I'll have to dig it up tonight after work. In the meantime, I have handy 1.0, 1.3.1, v2 (5/91), 2.0, 2.1, and 3.16.

Marauder II Brainfile 10 (I'll send up the parameter list, as well)

Thanks! Please do post the newest versions of these programs. I'm assuming that the newer the program, the more parameters it contains.

Twistin'Ghost · 10 December 2001, 19:33

Should be plenty there to keep ya busy. Oh and thanks for the upload...it was indeed Math Wizard. You are the man for edutainment. I should create my Educational MIA List next...

jmmijo · 03 January 2002, 08:18

As for Marauder II, Lockpick and Project D, I do believe those were the latest releases. I could be wrong however.

As for Maverick v5, that I can say was the very latest release. I worked on that product here locally for KJPB. Both the C64 and Amiga versions since day one. Also worked on quite a few of the single disk versions of the old C64 KJPB disks.

Ah the good ol days of basic, 6510 and 68k machine code.

redblade · 12 November 2004, 11:45

so how did these copiers worked ie RawCopy that removed the protection from the copy? did it read the disk name, and then change a few bytes on a sector?

jmmijo · 12 November 2004, 16:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by redblade

so how did these copiers worked ie RawCopy that removed the protection from the copy? did it read the disk name, and then change a few bytes on a sector?

Well I'm not sure how it was done on other apps but I'm sure it's similar to how it was done on the Maverick.

1) It would check the disk/volume name for sure to match against the master/original copy we had to work with.

2) If the title was file based then the specific file or files that contained the copy protection were checksumed and compared to the known versions of copy-protection in the parameter/patch list.

3) If the checksum matched any of the known copy protection versions then it would apply the patch to appropriate file/files.

4) If the checksum didn't match then a message saying Unknown Version or Unknown Copy Protection would appear.

As for sector based titles it would work a little differently in that the app would check specific tracks/sector for the checksum and verify this way or in the case of the Amiga titles that required the Backup Buddy drive then it would just check the boot track and tell you which version it was and have you adjust the speed on the drive accordingly for long track duplication.

keropi · 12 November 2004, 16:39

I have a dongle that connects between the amiga and external drive, for what prog is that for??? Is it any good? anyone on the CAPS team interested in that???

fiath · 12 November 2004, 17:48

Nope, I am afraid not, see here:
http://www.caps-project.org/articles.php?id=cycloneprob
and here:
http://www.caps-project.org/faq.php?question=cyclone

Galaxy · 12 November 2004, 21:26

Powercopy (by Geoff Lohere) also uses a hardware dongle that connects between the Amiga and external disk drive. It's dongle is metal (the cyclone is plastic). In practice I've found it much better at copying originals than any other copy program (and I've tried all the ones mentioned above). It also makes use of parameters (like Maverick or lockpick) as well as doing copies like the more traditional disk copiers.

jmmijo · 12 November 2004, 22:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy

Powercopy (by Geoff Lohere) also uses a hardware dongle that connects between the Amiga and external disk drive. It's dongle is metal (the cyclone is plastic). In practice I've found it much better at copying originals than any other copy program (and I've tried all the ones mentioned above). It also makes use of parameters (like Maverick or lockpick) as well as doing copies like the more traditional disk copiers.

I don't recall Powercopy, was this something only available in Australia or world wide ?!?

keropi · 12 November 2004, 22:58

mine is in plastic, so it is a cyclone?

X-ray · 12 November 2004, 23:08

I have a Cyclone and it is black plastic

Galaxy · 13 November 2004, 12:02

My cyclone cart is grey.

@jmmijo Powercopy was an Australian product, not sure if it was distributed overseas. It has a pretty extensive manual which I can Zone if anyone is interested, however the program won't work without the hardware device which also acts like a dongle (in addition to the copy functionality).

The splash screen says:

Quote:

PowerCopy Professional Version 3.03a © July 1990
Written by Geoff Lohrere
Melbourne, Australia.

Distributed Exclusively by Peripheral World
Bug Reports, Improvements and
Suggestions Welcome

Remember Spread the Word and Not the Disk

BippyM · 13 November 2004, 17:35

My cyclone is home made

jmmijo · 13 November 2004, 17:55

@Galaxy, thanks for the info. I guess I understand why the author tied the dongle and program together

Too bad it was only an Australian project, back in the day I was a collector of all the Disk Copier's, i.e., I purchased all the originals I could find

@Bippy, I seem to recall plans being put out to allow somebody to silkscreen their own circuit board for the Cyclone, I assume this is how you did it

BippyM · 13 November 2004, 18:32

I can't remember how I did it, I had help from a m8, I was more an observer :/

fiath · 14 November 2004, 08:44

Cyclone is simply a few lines swapped. There was a later version with an IC, but AFAIK all it did was allow you to use the drive in normal operation without having to remove it.

Dr. Dude · 14 November 2004, 12:42

I am thinking to build X Copy
I have pics of both sides, and made a blueprint from it. So i can build it my own
Got the pics from Big book of Amiga hardware

10 December 2001, 18:27	#1
DPainter Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Montana, USA Posts: 342	Disk copiers Does anyone have newer versions of the following disk copy tools: ProjectD 1.1 Lockpick v2 Maverick Amiga 5.0 Marauder II Brain File 10 (where is the parameter list for this thing?) These have been a great help in my quest to dump originals.

14 November 2004, 12:42	#20
Dr. Dude Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: On Ami World Posts: 500	I am thinking to build X Copy I have pics of both sides, and made a blueprint from it. So i can build it my own Got the pics from Big book of Amiga hardware Last edited by Dr. Dude; 02 October 2005 at 11:07.

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10 December 2001, 18:40	#2
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,646	I have to check versions, but I think I haev Project D.... and the Marauder II Brain File. Will check

10 December 2001, 18:52	#3
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	OK, I will upload most of this stuff. ProjectD: while I have v1.1 somewhere, I'll have to dig it up tonight after work. In the meantime, I have handy 1.0, 1.3.1, v2 (5/91), 2.0, 2.1, and 3.16. Marauder II Brainfile 10 (I'll send up the parameter list, as well)

10 December 2001, 19:33	#5
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	Should be plenty there to keep ya busy. Oh and thanks for the upload...it was indeed Math Wizard. You are the man for edutainment. I should create my Educational MIA List next...

03 January 2002, 08:18	#6
jmmijo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Age: 62 Posts: 2,396	As for Marauder II, Lockpick and Project D, I do believe those were the latest releases. I could be wrong however. As for Maverick v5, that I can say was the very latest release. I worked on that product here locally for KJPB. Both the C64 and Amiga versions since day one. Also worked on quite a few of the single disk versions of the old C64 KJPB disks. Ah the good ol days of basic, 6510 and 68k machine code.

12 November 2004, 11:45	#7
redblade Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Middle Earth Age: 40 Posts: 2,127	so how did these copiers worked ie RawCopy that removed the protection from the copy? did it read the disk name, and then change a few bytes on a sector?

12 November 2004, 16:39	#9
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	I have a dongle that connects between the amiga and external drive, for what prog is that for??? Is it any good? anyone on the CAPS team interested in that???

12 November 2004, 17:48	#10
fiath Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South East / UK Age: 46 Posts: 1,930	Nope, I am afraid not, see here: http://www.caps-project.org/articles.php?id=cycloneprob and here: http://www.caps-project.org/faq.php?question=cyclone

12 November 2004, 21:26	#11
Galaxy Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Canberra, Australia Age: 46 Posts: 1,417	Powercopy (by Geoff Lohere) also uses a hardware dongle that connects between the Amiga and external disk drive. It's dongle is metal (the cyclone is plastic). In practice I've found it much better at copying originals than any other copy program (and I've tried all the ones mentioned above). It also makes use of parameters (like Maverick or lockpick) as well as doing copies like the more traditional disk copiers.

12 November 2004, 22:58	#13
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	mine is in plastic, so it is a cyclone?

12 November 2004, 23:08	#14
X-ray Angry Kid Fan Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: London Posts: 230	I have a Cyclone and it is black plastic

13 November 2004, 17:35	#16
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	My cyclone is home made

13 November 2004, 17:55	#17
jmmijo Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: PDX Age: 62 Posts: 2,396	@Galaxy, thanks for the info. I guess I understand why the author tied the dongle and program together Too bad it was only an Australian project, back in the day I was a collector of all the Disk Copier's, i.e., I purchased all the originals I could find @Bippy, I seem to recall plans being put out to allow somebody to silkscreen their own circuit board for the Cyclone, I assume this is how you did it

13 November 2004, 18:32	#18
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	I can't remember how I did it, I had help from a m8, I was more an observer :/

14 November 2004, 08:44	#19
fiath Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South East / UK Age: 46 Posts: 1,930	Cyclone is simply a few lines swapped. There was a later version with an IC, but AFAIK all it did was allow you to use the drive in normal operation without having to remove it.

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