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Want to use multiple drives in amiga 1200
Hello, I have an a1200 with 40mb original hard drive. I would like to add a cf to ide drive as the main drive, and have it be large by the amiga's standards, an SD to IDE adapter as a drive that can have the SD card be unplugged to transfer files, and a CD ROM drive. I would like assistance with figuring this out. I have a parallel port CD rom drive, and was wondering if I could find any drivers for that? That would be easier than internal. I do not want to put anything on the PCMCIA port, as i want to use that for a network card. I would like to keep the old hard drive in use, but make it not the number one priority to boot from. I will be copying what is on it onto a partition on the new cf card just as a back up of that anyway. Do I need the 4XEIDE'99 buffered interface from amigakit to do this? There would be 3 drives total if I use my parallel port cd rom drive. I would make the cf card the master first bootable priority drive.
I would like to make as few alterations to the original case as possible also. A slot or hole for a cable for the sd card adapter is the the only one I would accept. Best would be just a slot for the sd card so i can reach it without opening the case. Thank you! As of yet, I have workbench 2.1 on there and no way to change it or install a network card or config utility for an indivision mk2, or any way to move software. So thanks for any help! Last edited by Mstone; 15 October 2018 at 20:43. |
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I'm not aware of any parallel port drivers for CD-ROMs, so I don't think that's an option. Also, some CF cards don't play nicely with other devices on the bus, and some old 2.5" hard drives have a similar issue, so there are no guarantees you'll be able to run both drives at the same time. A 4-way buffered interface probably gives you the best chance of succeeding though...
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Also the old 2.5 in hard drive isn't that necessary. I just wanted it for the sound of the original hard drive, as long as I can make a copy of it onto a partition on the cf card main drive. Can I do that? |
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this is what you want
http://eu-shop.elbox.com/en_GB/p/Fas...K-V-CFSATA/629 |
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My bad, I didnt realize the quotes would do that lol.
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Thank you or the suggestion! I found the same item on amiga kit for just a hair cheaper, but it is an expensive, but cool option. What I don't understand is does it come with SATA ports on it. Also, I ust watched a video on it that did not give it a good review in its design, especially if you use an Indivision mk2 which I plan on using. It makes it not fit well. I think I will be going with the 4xEIDE buffered interface. But thank you! |
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Oh my gosh! I just realized the 4x ide device has an extra 2.5 in 44pin IDE connector on its backside, so I could still connect the original hard drive, along with a cf adapter, and an sd adapter, all on their own connectors. None would have to be master or slave then I am assuming. I also found that sd cards dont have the compatibility issues that cf does, but I want the speed of the cf fr the hard drive, but will have sd for the transfer medium from my computer. Now I just need to pick the fastest cf card and sd cards that I can use that also have a balance of large size.
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You can only copy a partition from within WinUAE, as Windows doesn't understand the Amiga's disk format. But within WinUAE you can copy all the files off it to another partition on a different device, effectively ending up with an identical partition elsewhere. Alternatively, from the Windows side you can create an image of the entire drive and use that with WinUAE instead. Under Linux there's the dd tool for that but I'm sure Windows has many equivalents.
The extra 44-pin connector is in parallel with the first 40-pin connector on the front of the board, so that and the "primary" port count as effectively the same cable. So you still only have two interfaces, just one has a choice of which size to use. SD cards might not be as fast as CF cards, but they're both faster than the Amiga can make use of, so speed shouldn't really be a deciding factor. |
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If the SD card is for transfer only, have a look at getting a PCMCIA adaptor for it instead. That will let you hot-plug the card, which isn't possible on the internal IDE port.
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And if I did do ththe pcmcia adapter, would I be able to unplug that while the computer is running and put in a network card, or the other way around? I would like to be able to just leave the network card there |
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I just realized that this SD card adapter does nit have any jumpers, and so I would assume no way to set it as a slave drive. It is the only type available that I see that is 3 5 inch. https://www.ebay.com/itm/IDE-to-SD-S...C/283200431724
However, this cf card adapter has jumpers to set it as master or slave, so I think that would work so long as the particular card is okay with being slave drive. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Syba-IDE-to...t/361132774205 |
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The problem is these cheap ones, as you say, dont play well together. What would a buffered 4-way interface do to help in this situation, as far as you're aware? Would it allow both devices to be 'master'? I don't think it would solve the issue, would it? Like you say, maybe CF to PCMCIA is better for data transfer. I just liked the idea of utilising a second IDE device. |
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Doesn't the A1200 have the same 44 pin IDE male 'socket' as the A600? EDIT: I guess you'd be using the aforementioned buffer with the 40 pin channel in parallel with the 44? |
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i have iomega pocketzip/clik! 40MB PCMCIA floppy drives i havent tested yet on A1200
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Yes, I was planning to use the 4 ide buffered interface which has 40 pin connectors.
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If it isnt hot swappable, I dont think it is that big of a deal. I can just unplug it, or plug it in when the computer is off. And if the computer needs files when its on, I could just use a floppy disk or transfer it over the network.
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