Shapeshifter

dkovacs · 09 January 2006, 14:22

Hi;

Whenever I run prepemul before starting shapeshifter, my amiga's power light flashes and it won't reboot unless I power down. Are there any arguements I need to include when calling prepemu.l? I'm running an A1200 with a DKB Cobra '030 card and 8MB fast ram.

Also, if I remember correctly, Apple had older versions of their MacOS available for download - does anyone know if it's still available and where it can be downloaded from if it is?

Dan

mr_a500 · 09 January 2006, 15:12

Did you read the ShapeShifter guide? It says if you have an A1200 you must use the option "PrepareEmul A1200".

You can still get 7.5.3 from here:
http://download.info.apple.com/Apple...Version_7.5.3/

The 7.5.5 update used to be there somewhere, but I don't see it now.

dkovacs · 09 January 2006, 18:52

Great, thanks. Now, is there a way to get these images written to disk? I only have a double density drive.

mr_a500 · 09 January 2006, 19:36

I was assuming your A1200 was connected to the internet, but I guess not. Copying to DD disk will be tedius. Is that how you normally get stuff on your A1200? You should try serial transfer with AmigaExplorer or other programs on Aminet.

If you still want to transfer by disk, you can chop the images so they'll fit on disk, then join them on the A1200. I use "split" and "join" (on Aminet).

dkovacs · 09 January 2006, 19:55

No, not on the internet with that computer - I'm trying to coerce a friend to lend me his PCMCIA NIC but he always thinks I'm just joking around. I burn to CD and then copy over that way.

dkovacs · 09 January 2006, 19:56

One other thing - what do I write those disk images to when I get them over to the amiga?

mr_a500 · 09 January 2006, 21:20

You need to already have a ShapeShifter bootfile containing 7.0 and Stuffit. Then use Stuffit to extract the images and run the 7.5 install. That's how I did it. It has been a while so I don't remember the details clearly.

Have you already got a bootfile? I had a link once to a 2Mb 7.0 bootfile for ShapeShifter, but I think the site died years ago. I'll search my old dead HD for it if you need it.

mr_a500 · 09 January 2006, 21:40

Ah, now I remember (I think). The bootfile is a small floppy version of the OS for installing. In ShapeShifter, you put the bootfile as filedisk1 and in filedisk2 you click create to create a filedisk (where you are going to install 7.5). When you start ShapeShifter, you will see the filedisk you created on the Mac desktop. You must format it. Extract the 7.5 images (using Stuffit) to the filedisk you created, then run the 7.5 install.

I found the bootfile and can send it if you need it.

dkovacs · 10 January 2006, 15:54

Hi;

I found a set of hardfiles (the one's that where on CU Amiga's cover CD 26 I think) they work great! Now, can anyone reccomend a particular display driver that works best with a 68030/FPU/MMU and 8MB fast ram? The emulator works great in monochrome, but the display update is SLOW in anything beyond 4 colors/greys. Are there any display drivers that work reasonably well in 16/256 colors?

ant512 · 10 January 2006, 20:44

Not unless you've got an 060 or a graphics card, I'm afraid. The Mac uses a chunky display, whilst the Amiga uses a planar display in anything other than monochrome. If you increase the number of colours, the Amiga has to do chunky-to-planar conversion, which is CPU intensive at the best of times. It also has to run the rest of the Mac and your Workbench at the same time.

Ain't going to happen.

commie1974 · 23 January 2006, 01:44

@dkovacs:
Well, if you really like Shapeshifter, you MUST try Fusion! This one is way easier to use and has slightly better performance! Try to find some abandoned MacOS 8.1 installation CD from some friend or buy it second-hand for peanuts, and use this instead of crappy 7.x! I would also recommend to devote a whole partition of 200-300Mb on your HD for use with this emulator! Soon you will realize that it was definately worth it!
I use Fusion 3.2 with MacOS 8.1 and 1.5Gb partition on my A1200/1240@40 and it rocks

Remember that you WILL need at least 16Mb of fast ram (I use 32) to have a good performance and to be able to run *serious* software!
You will have non-amiga advantages like:
Netscape 4.08
MS Internet Explorer (not much of an advantage)
Quicktime (in a reasonable performance)
Hotline & Carracho
MS Office
Adobe Photoshop etc.
Quark Express...
...and many more, and all these in an approximately real Mac 68k speed!
Enjoy!!!

mr_a500 · 24 January 2006, 19:33

Does Fusion work on ECS Amigas? Where can I find it?

Shapeshifter runs great on my Amiga, but if Fusion is faster, I'd definitely like to try it.

Mad-Matt · 25 January 2006, 01:25

back when i used shapeshifter alot , The best AGA driver used for shapeshifter was TurboEVD. The fastest for RTG cards is CardTrickEVD. I didnt find fusion faster, just more compatable with stuff that wouldnt run under shapeshifter.

09 January 2006, 14:22	#1
dkovacs Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Goderich Ontario Canada Age: 47 Posts: 64	Shapeshifter Hi; Whenever I run prepemul before starting shapeshifter, my amiga's power light flashes and it won't reboot unless I power down. Are there any arguements I need to include when calling prepemu.l? I'm running an A1200 with a DKB Cobra '030 card and 8MB fast ram. Also, if I remember correctly, Apple had older versions of their MacOS available for download - does anyone know if it's still available and where it can be downloaded from if it is? Dan

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09 January 2006, 15:12	#2
mr_a500 Amiga-based Cyborg Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 808	Did you read the ShapeShifter guide? It says if you have an A1200 you must use the option "PrepareEmul A1200". You can still get 7.5.3 from here: http://download.info.apple.com/Apple...Version_7.5.3/ The 7.5.5 update used to be there somewhere, but I don't see it now.

09 January 2006, 18:52	#3
dkovacs Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Goderich Ontario Canada Age: 47 Posts: 64	Great, thanks. Now, is there a way to get these images written to disk? I only have a double density drive.

09 January 2006, 19:36	#4
mr_a500 Amiga-based Cyborg Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 808	I was assuming your A1200 was connected to the internet, but I guess not. Copying to DD disk will be tedius. Is that how you normally get stuff on your A1200? You should try serial transfer with AmigaExplorer or other programs on Aminet. If you still want to transfer by disk, you can chop the images so they'll fit on disk, then join them on the A1200. I use "split" and "join" (on Aminet).

09 January 2006, 19:55	#5
dkovacs Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Goderich Ontario Canada Age: 47 Posts: 64	No, not on the internet with that computer - I'm trying to coerce a friend to lend me his PCMCIA NIC but he always thinks I'm just joking around. I burn to CD and then copy over that way.

09 January 2006, 19:56	#6
dkovacs Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Goderich Ontario Canada Age: 47 Posts: 64	One other thing - what do I write those disk images to when I get them over to the amiga?

09 January 2006, 21:20	#7
mr_a500 Amiga-based Cyborg Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 808	You need to already have a ShapeShifter bootfile containing 7.0 and Stuffit. Then use Stuffit to extract the images and run the 7.5 install. That's how I did it. It has been a while so I don't remember the details clearly. Have you already got a bootfile? I had a link once to a 2Mb 7.0 bootfile for ShapeShifter, but I think the site died years ago. I'll search my old dead HD for it if you need it.

09 January 2006, 21:40	#8
mr_a500 Amiga-based Cyborg Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 808	Ah, now I remember (I think). The bootfile is a small floppy version of the OS for installing. In ShapeShifter, you put the bootfile as filedisk1 and in filedisk2 you click create to create a filedisk (where you are going to install 7.5). When you start ShapeShifter, you will see the filedisk you created on the Mac desktop. You must format it. Extract the 7.5 images (using Stuffit) to the filedisk you created, then run the 7.5 install. I found the bootfile and can send it if you need it.

10 January 2006, 15:54	#9
dkovacs Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Goderich Ontario Canada Age: 47 Posts: 64	Hi; I found a set of hardfiles (the one's that where on CU Amiga's cover CD 26 I think) they work great! Now, can anyone reccomend a particular display driver that works best with a 68030/FPU/MMU and 8MB fast ram? The emulator works great in monochrome, but the display update is SLOW in anything beyond 4 colors/greys. Are there any display drivers that work reasonably well in 16/256 colors?

10 January 2006, 20:44	#10
ant512 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 964	Not unless you've got an 060 or a graphics card, I'm afraid. The Mac uses a chunky display, whilst the Amiga uses a planar display in anything other than monochrome. If you increase the number of colours, the Amiga has to do chunky-to-planar conversion, which is CPU intensive at the best of times. It also has to run the rest of the Mac and your Workbench at the same time. Ain't going to happen.

23 January 2006, 01:44	#11
commie1974 Amiga? What's that?!? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Piraeus-Greece Age: 50 Posts: 256	@dkovacs: Well, if you really like Shapeshifter, you MUST try Fusion! This one is way easier to use and has slightly better performance! Try to find some abandoned MacOS 8.1 installation CD from some friend or buy it second-hand for peanuts, and use this instead of crappy 7.x! I would also recommend to devote a whole partition of 200-300Mb on your HD for use with this emulator! Soon you will realize that it was definately worth it! I use Fusion 3.2 with MacOS 8.1 and 1.5Gb partition on my A1200/1240@40 and it rocks Remember that you WILL need at least 16Mb of fast ram (I use 32) to have a good performance and to be able to run serious software! You will have non-amiga advantages like: Netscape 4.08 MS Internet Explorer (not much of an advantage) Quicktime (in a reasonable performance) Hotline & Carracho MS Office Adobe Photoshop etc. Quark Express... ...and many more, and all these in an approximately real Mac 68k speed! Enjoy!!!

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24 January 2006, 19:33	#12
mr_a500 Amiga-based Cyborg Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 808	Does Fusion work on ECS Amigas? Where can I find it? Shapeshifter runs great on my Amiga, but if Fusion is faster, I'd definitely like to try it.

25 January 2006, 01:25	#13
Mad-Matt Longplayer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lincoln / UK Age: 44 Posts: 1,846	back when i used shapeshifter alot , The best AGA driver used for shapeshifter was TurboEVD. The fastest for RTG cards is CardTrickEVD. I didnt find fusion faster, just more compatable with stuff that wouldnt run under shapeshifter.