MUI 5.0-2018R1 OS3/OS4 Released - Page 2

AMIGASYSTEM · 02 July 2017, 02:18

Thank you James, updated news and screenshots

Configuring my MUI 5
[ Show youtube player ]

AMIGASYSTEM · 06 October 2017, 15:39

MUI-5.0-2017R3 Released! link download first page

AMIGASYSTEM · 04 April 2018, 22:20

MUI 5.0-2018R1 Upgrade (download on the front page)

DDNI · 05 April 2018, 07:48

Many thanks

drwhy · 08 April 2018, 13:03

thank you :-)

AMIGASYSTEM · 26 November 2018, 22:24

MUI 5.0-2018R3 Update, info and download on the front page

tygre · 30 December 2018, 20:47

Hi all!

Sorry if this is not the right thread to post about my problem!

I have installed MUI v5.0 on a A1200 with Blizzard 1260, 60Mb of RAM and Workbench 3.1 and it does not work. It complains about having not enough memory and seems (?) to be missing Window.mui

.

I join the output of the Console Window that MUI opens and the log from SnoopDOS

.

I must have missed something!

Did anyone have the same problem?
Any suggestions?

Cheers!

Update 1: a clean install (removing assigns from the User-Startup, rebooting, deleting MUI folder, installing v5.0) does not help...

Hewitson · 31 December 2018, 04:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by clebin

This is what I mean. Why be so bloody rude?

Their attitude is warranted for this bloated piece of crap. 3.5MB compressed!

AMIGASYSTEM · 31 December 2018, 10:39

Ciao tygre, I did some tests on WinUAE simulating your configuration.
MUI5 works well with OS3.1, better on RTG screen, with a PAL screen I have a problem only when I run MUI Prefs.With RTG screen everything works perfectly see screenshots.
Regarding your error check that you do not yet have files from previous versions of MUI, check also in LIBS, "Window.mui", about read HERE

tygre · 31 December 2018, 19:31

Hi AMIGASYSTEM and thanks for your test!

Unfortunately, even installing MUI v5.0 from scratch (removing entirely old MUI v3.8) does not work on my Amiga: still this error about not having enough memory...

Does MUI v5.0 requires absolutely a RTG card?

Cheers!

indigolemon · 31 December 2018, 23:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by tygre

Hi AMIGASYSTEM and thanks for your test!

Unfortunately, even installing MUI v5.0 from scratch (removing entirely old MUI v3.8) does not work on my Amiga: still this error about not having enough memory...

Does MUI v5.0 requires absolutely a RTG card?

Cheers!

TBH, it's slow on my 060 with RTG, so I've gone back to 3.8 - not sure it's worth the fight, even it does bring some shiny newness to things.

AMIGASYSTEM · 01 January 2019, 02:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by tygre

Does MUI v5.0 requires absolutely a RTG card?
Cheers!

No RTG is not necessary,
but with RTG speed and graphic appearance is another world

. Unfortunately I do not have a real Amiga to test, with WinUAE A1200 060 / 64MB RAM no JIT, the applications work well (tested AmiModRadio, see screenshot) the problem is only on MUI Prefs.

Test your system on WinUAE maybe discover the problem.

AMIGASYSTEM · 01 January 2019, 02:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by indigolemon

TBH, it's slow on my 060 with RTG, so I've gone back to 3.8 - not sure it's worth the fight, even it does bring some shiny newness to things.

It is not very slow on RTG, this depends on how you configure it, if you use graphic backgrounds it's normal to happen, on WinUAE MUI5 and very fast, my system is fired (in the video you will see numerous applications using MUI):

[ Show youtube player ]

AMIGASYSTEM · 16 May 2019, 10:24

MUI 5.0-2019R1 OS3/OS4 Released, info and downloads on the first page

AMIGASYSTEM · 11 June 2020, 22:20

MUI-5.0-2020-06-10 r6560 update, link Download front page

Weaselrama · 12 June 2020, 00:04

I've avoided the 5.x series and stuck with the 4.x series. The original blurb said v5 would be slow on 68k machines - but *what* 68k machines? I have a feeling I'd be ok running a 68060. I might take the plunge - I'll let you know.

AMIGASYSTEM · 12 June 2020, 00:28

Of course on a royal Amiga little expanded MUI5 is in fact not very advisable. If you use a well expanded Amiga or a MUI5 Emulator is the best choice.

I always use the most updated software, first because many bugs have been fixed and second because it offers more features and better quality and compatibility.

For example at the moment on my systems I'm using "PatchASL" that in addition to speed up the opening of windows, when using an application remember the size of the GUI and the file used previously.

Test Video PatchASL: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MwT...ew?usp=sharing

Weaselrama · 12 June 2020, 00:44

I'll just make a regularly scheduled back-up of my .hdf's and go ahead and install it. If I run into a problem with speed - back to the previous .hdf's.

AMIGASYSTEM · 12 June 2020, 00:46

No need to install, for the test rename the MUI folder and replace with the MUI folder included in the MUI5 package.

stevelord · 12 June 2020, 10:46

I tried MUI5 a while back and compatibility was dreadful. I was getting all kinds of screen corruption issues and programs failing. To be fair, I'd had trouble with my ZZ9000 too, but even so it just wasn't worth the slowdown for me, and this is on an 060/50.

Ultimately everything works on 3.8, so there's very little value in upgrading unless you're emulating and want shiny new looks. If you want shiny new looks, I'm not sure an Amiga is the best platform.

02 July 2017, 02:18	#21
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Thank you James, updated news and screenshots Configuring my MUI 5 [ Show youtube player ] Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 02 July 2017 at 10:24.

31 December 2018, 10:39	#29
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Ciao tygre, I did some tests on WinUAE simulating your configuration. MUI5 works well with OS3.1, better on RTG screen, with a PAL screen I have a problem only when I run MUI Prefs.With RTG screen everything works perfectly see screenshots. Regarding your error check that you do not yet have files from previous versions of MUI, check also in LIBS, "Window.mui", about read HERE Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 13 January 2019 at 19:09.

12 June 2020, 00:46	#39
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	No need to install, for the test rename the MUI folder and replace with the MUI folder included in the MUI5 package. Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 12 June 2020 at 00:57.

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AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Of course on a royal Amiga little expanded MUI5 is in fact not very advisable. If you use a well expanded Amiga or a MUI5 Emulator is the best choice. I always use the most updated software, first because many bugs have been fixed and second because it offers more features and better quality and compatibility. For example at the moment on my systems I'm using "PatchASL" that in addition to speed up the opening of windows, when using an application remember the size of the GUI and the file used previously. Test Video PatchASL: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MwT...ew?usp=sharing

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