A590 Hard drive - Page 2

OddbOd · 21 August 2007, 18:04

Somebody stop me if I'm talking shite, but, assuming the numbers supplied are correct then the HDToolBox parameters should be:

Cylinders: 3992
Heads: 19
Blocks per Track: 110
Blocks per Cylinder: 2090

Blocks and Sectors are synonymous so the Average Sectors per Track value will suffice for BpT, the BpC figure is just the number of heads (19) multiplied by BpT (110).

beanz · 21 August 2007, 20:31

Thanks, I'll try those settings tonight. So anyone give me a ballpark of how long I should expect a low level format to take?

beanz · 22 August 2007, 19:29

Tried those settings which seemed right, (2 partitions 2gb+ each). Tried the low level format....hung up again 10hrs and still going when I left.

I guess its find another drive time

Toni Wilen · 22 August 2007, 19:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by beanz

Tried those settings which seemed right, (2 partitions 2gb+ each). Tried the low level format....hung up again 10hrs and still going when I left.

I guess its find another drive time

Only OS3.5+ have >4G drive support. You will get data loss/corruption if your total used drive size (sum of all partitions. (yes, I know that isn't exactly right but it is easier to explain this way)) is >4G. Old FFS most likely won't support >2G (to max 4G) partitions properly either.

(and doing low level format is pointless, modern drives either ignore it or do regular format)

beanz · 23 August 2007, 15:39

Well I've give up on that drive then and just bought a Fujitsu M2952SYU 2gb off Ebay. Hopefully I can get that one up and running when it arrives!

Thanks again.

musashi5150 · 23 August 2007, 22:57

I hope you get your hard drive running soon... makes me sad to see the effort you make and get no reward

beanz · 24 August 2007, 01:44

Hehe thanks. At least I do have the 20mb XT one that came with the A590 working...just so small I need something bigger.

Chain · 24 August 2007, 08:54

DMAC2 is needed for larger drives (im also after one)

Toni Wilen · 24 August 2007, 09:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chain

DMAC2 is needed for larger drives (im also after one)

Technically this is not correct

(yes, newer driver with large drive support may need fixed DMAC for better/more reliable operation but DMAC revision has nothing to do with drive size)

alexh · 24 August 2007, 10:17

It is regularly quoted that DMAC2 is required for GURU ROM... dunno if this is true or not...

Chain · 24 August 2007, 10:30

I cant create partitions bigger than 20mb wit old dmac (KS 1.3), and ive read somowhere it might be DMAC bug, so dont throw stones on me

(i have 6.6 roms)

alexh · 24 August 2007, 13:34

Did the 2091 / 590 ever ship with DMAC2?

If not, could you (were users officially encouraged to) buy them separately, or is this an unofficial upgrade made by hacking users who ROBBED them from A3000's perhaps as they were being upgraded?

Chain · 24 August 2007, 14:40

yes they was lately shipped with dmac2 im sure, as my friend have it without any upgrading

beanz · 24 August 2007, 15:07

Ok, noob remember...what/where is Dmac2? The roms on my A590 were 4.6 till I got the v7 so if its another chip Im pretty sure it will be the old one.

Dang, this is killin me! so I wont be able to use even the 2gb drive without this Dmac2 thing huh.

..where did I put that Atari ST.. JOKE!

narmi · 24 August 2007, 18:40

I have just installed a 4.3 GB drive into my A590 with 6.6 ROMS and DMAC1. The drive is partitioned into two 2GB partitions, and works fine. I used the HDToolbox that comes with the WB3.1 install disk (I have KS3.1).

My only problem is the noise, it's a 7200 RPM drive, very loud! I wish I had a 5400 RPM drive, I doubt this setup can take advantage of a fast drive.

beanz · 24 August 2007, 18:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by narmi

I have just installed a 4.3 GB drive into my A590 with 6.6 ROMS and DMAC1. The drive is partitioned into two 2GB partitions, and works fine. I used the HDToolbox that comes with the WB3.1 install disk (I have KS3.1).

My only problem is the noise, it's a 7200 RPM drive, very loud! I wish I had a 5400 RPM drive, I doubt this setup can take advantage of a fast drive.

I only have 2.4 kickstart and 2.1 workbench....I don't suppose I can use 3.1 w/b wiht 2.4 kickstart huh?

ppill · 24 August 2007, 18:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by beanz

I only have 2.4 kickstart and 2.1 workbench....I don't suppose I can use 3.1 w/b wiht 2.4 kickstart huh?

It will load but some programs refuse to work. A real lifesaver when I got my A600 and found that system (2.04 I think) floppies were corrupted. CrossDOS worked without problems.

beanz · 24 August 2007, 19:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by ppill

It will load but some programs refuse to work. A real lifesaver when I got my A600 and found that system (2.04 I think) floppies were corrupted. CrossDOS worked without problems.

Hmm maybe I will try and see if HDtoolbox works.

beanz · 30 August 2007, 18:04

Update:

The 2.1gb drive arrived and works a treat woohoo!

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21 August 2007, 18:04	#21
OddbOd Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia Age: 46 Posts: 666	Somebody stop me if I'm talking shite, but, assuming the numbers supplied are correct then the HDToolBox parameters should be: Cylinders: 3992 Heads: 19 Blocks per Track: 110 Blocks per Cylinder: 2090 Blocks and Sectors are synonymous so the Average Sectors per Track value will suffice for BpT, the BpC figure is just the number of heads (19) multiplied by BpT (110).

21 August 2007, 20:31	#22
beanz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Houston, Texas, USA Posts: 60	Thanks, I'll try those settings tonight. So anyone give me a ballpark of how long I should expect a low level format to take?

22 August 2007, 19:29	#23
beanz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Houston, Texas, USA Posts: 60	Tried those settings which seemed right, (2 partitions 2gb+ each). Tried the low level format....hung up again 10hrs and still going when I left. I guess its find another drive time

23 August 2007, 15:39	#25
beanz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Houston, Texas, USA Posts: 60	Well I've give up on that drive then and just bought a Fujitsu M2952SYU 2gb off Ebay. Hopefully I can get that one up and running when it arrives! Thanks again.

23 August 2007, 22:57	#26
musashi5150 move.w #$4489,$dff07e Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norfolk, UK Age: 42 Posts: 2,351	I hope you get your hard drive running soon... makes me sad to see the effort you make and get no reward

24 August 2007, 01:44	#27
beanz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Houston, Texas, USA Posts: 60	Hehe thanks. At least I do have the 20mb XT one that came with the A590 working...just so small I need something bigger.

24 August 2007, 08:54	#28
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	DMAC2 is needed for larger drives (im also after one)

24 August 2007, 10:17	#30
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,330	It is regularly quoted that DMAC2 is required for GURU ROM... dunno if this is true or not...

24 August 2007, 10:30	#31
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	I cant create partitions bigger than 20mb wit old dmac (KS 1.3), and ive read somowhere it might be DMAC bug, so dont throw stones on me (i have 6.6 roms)

24 August 2007, 13:34	#32
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,330	Did the 2091 / 590 ever ship with DMAC2? If not, could you (were users officially encouraged to) buy them separately, or is this an unofficial upgrade made by hacking users who ROBBED them from A3000's perhaps as they were being upgraded?

24 August 2007, 14:40	#33
Chain A-Collector, repairments Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Czech Rep. Age: 50 Posts: 1,536	yes they was lately shipped with dmac2 im sure, as my friend have it without any upgrading

24 August 2007, 15:07	#34
beanz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Houston, Texas, USA Posts: 60	Ok, noob remember...what/where is Dmac2? The roms on my A590 were 4.6 till I got the v7 so if its another chip Im pretty sure it will be the old one. Dang, this is killin me! so I wont be able to use even the 2gb drive without this Dmac2 thing huh. ..where did I put that Atari ST.. JOKE!

24 August 2007, 18:40	#35
narmi Guru Meditation Error Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 92	I have just installed a 4.3 GB drive into my A590 with 6.6 ROMS and DMAC1. The drive is partitioned into two 2GB partitions, and works fine. I used the HDToolbox that comes with the WB3.1 install disk (I have KS3.1). My only problem is the noise, it's a 7200 RPM drive, very loud! I wish I had a 5400 RPM drive, I doubt this setup can take advantage of a fast drive.

30 August 2007, 18:04	#39
beanz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Houston, Texas, USA Posts: 60	Update: The 2.1gb drive arrived and works a treat woohoo!

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