A600 - Classic WB Help with System.Zip

portarinos · 25 September 2010, 11:31

Which is the right version for an Amiga 600 with Roms 2.0 (37.300), CF for hard drive and 4mb extra memory? I suppose it's only GAAE or am i wrong? Lack of Roms 3.0/3.1 shouldn't permit the installation of 68k. Am i right again. Either way, since i don't have a PC in order to set up the WB package and transfer it to my A600, could someone please upload at least the System.zip file for me (68k/GAAE)? Would this be possible, pleaseeeeee!!!!

Thanks in advance

fitzsteve · 25 September 2010, 11:59

The GAAE version is the one that is designed for you setup although 68k does run but you may get some errors when booting and maybe at other times unless you upgrade the Rom to 3.1

Sadly we cannot upload the system.zip for you as there are workbench files that are removed for copyright reasons.

I would be happy to set it up for you if you sent me your CF card. Where abouts are you ?

Steve.

portarinos · 25 September 2010, 15:08

Thanks for your answer Steve. I suppose, though, that uploading a system.zip file isn't illegal since i also have to use my original workbench disk during installation so.......Maybe you could PM me if that's the problem. Or i'll PM you

fitzsteve · 25 September 2010, 17:42

the system.zip is made after activation therefore contains the files we are not allowed to distribute via the site. I'm not sure how the Classic Workbench real Amiga floppy would handle an un-activated system.zip

We need bloodwych to have some input here.

Steve.

Bloodwych · 25 September 2010, 18:49

Someone could just mount the ClassicWB GAAE HDF without activating it and zip it up in UAE/Dopus for another person.

Then the other person can use the install disk or another utility to unpack it onto the root of the real Amiga's DH0: partition. The install disk doesn't care if it's acticvated or not - it just unpacks System.zip to DH0: and replaces the trash icon if present.

When you reset the real Amiga, it will run through the install routine as normal, asking for a Workbench 2.1 disk. It has to be a Workbench 2.1 disk though, not 2.0. So have one handy on a floppy standing by.

portarinos · 25 September 2010, 23:01

Thanks for your comment Bloodwych. That's exactly what i did with my 1200 setup. Someone else uploaded the system.zip for me and i only had to boot from floppy and this did the rest. Unfortunately, or should i say fortunately, i don't own a PC at home, just Mac's so no easy UAE for me. Anyway, if someone could still help me with a GAAE version of system.zip a PM would be handy enough for me to arrange the rest. Thanks goes to both of you guys (Bloodwych, Fitzsteve) for your time.

fitzsteve · 26 September 2010, 00:02

I can do it for you in a few days if no one jumps in before (I am away at the moment)

Steve.

portarinos · 26 September 2010, 00:46

No prob m8. I appreciate your effort. Take care.

portarinos · 04 October 2010, 02:00

Any news here Steve? Could you possibly arrange something for the poor "Amiga user-with no PC's but Mac's at home-so no WinuAE" ?

Leffmann · 04 October 2010, 04:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by portarinos

Any news here Steve? Could you possibly arrange something for the poor "Amiga user-with no PC's but Mac's at home-so no WinuAE" ?

I've always run WinUAE through Sun VirtualBox and VMWare Fusion on my MBP, and it works perfectly fine.

fitzsteve · 04 October 2010, 09:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by portarinos

Any news here Steve? Could you possibly arrange something for the poor "Amiga user-with no PC's but Mac's at home-so no WinuAE" ?

Oh really sorry

I forgot all about this, you should have sent me a little reminder PM

I'll do that right now and Zone it for you - maybe in two parts, see how big the file is.

Will report back shortly!

Steve.

fitzsteve · 04 October 2010, 09:54

All done - sorry for the delay

portarinos · 05 October 2010, 22:12

Sorry about what? Are you serious? You are doing me a favor man! I'll download and install it on my A600 courtesy of Fitzsteve, Thanks again m8!

fitzsteve · 05 October 2010, 22:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by portarinos

Sorry about what? Are you serious? You are doing me a favor man! I'll download and install it on my A600 courtesy of Fitzsteve, Thanks again m8!

Awesome, let us know how you get on.

portarinos · 06 October 2010, 20:29

Thanks for your help Stevie! I'll let you know as soon as i prepare my A600 for the new era. You see i've been waiting for Zetro's A608 (as everybody of course) while another 4mb ram board is on the way

fitzsteve · 06 October 2010, 20:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by portarinos

Thanks for your help Stevie! I'll let you know as soon as i prepare my A600 for the new era. You see i've been waiting for Zetro's A608 (as everybody of course) while another 4mb ram board is on the way

Best of luck with the project, look forward to the pics

Eriond · 16 January 2011, 22:25

I just got my ACA630, and I'm wondering about what version of ClassicWB I could use. Of course I want as much bells and whistles as possible now that my miggy is '030 equipped!

I have been using GAAE til now, but when I read the "recommended minimum reqirements", I see that I can go all the way up to ADV edition, still having only ECS chipset. Is that correct?

Although I only have 2.05 ROMs right now, I will upgrade to 3.1 soon.
When we're on that subject; is 3.1 REALLY required or will it work with 2.05 as well?

/Eriond

Silly me. I just gave both ROM versions a go in UAE, and it came out quite clearly that I need the 3.1 ROM. Mystery solved (and verified). In UAE the ADV version booted up only with a "Software Failure" : Copper. Software failed (#80000008). After clicking "Suspend" I seem to be able to carry on... Interesting to see if this error occurs on my real A600 as well.

/Eriond

Bloodwych · 16 January 2011, 22:40

I'm afraid you will need 3.0/1 ROMS. You also need to disable copper before running it on an ECS machine (top menubar->Settings->Copper->Disable), and reduce screenmode colours to 16.

When you get them, you can use any of the packs. mflos used the ADVSP on his ECS accelerated machine: [ Show youtube player ]

I never thought an ECS machine was good enough for Newicons - with these new accelerators, I shall update the webapge.

fitzsteve · 16 January 2011, 23:02

Hey Bloodwych, the ACA630 can re-kick a rom image so he don't need to upgarde the Rom, you can use ACATune to map a 3.1 Rom.

I suggest the CWB ADV pack for the A600 and drop to 8 colours, its pretty slick.

Of course the ADV SP and even the OS3.9 packs will work but they will be a little bit slow even with the ACA630.

But why not try them all out and see what you think.

By the way, encrypted Roms (Like Amiga forever) do not work for the remap.

Steve.

prowler · 16 January 2011, 23:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitzsteve

By the way, encrypted Roms (Like Amiga forever) do not work for the remap.

The AF ROMs can be decrypted with the ROM.key, WinUAE and a ROM grabber like GrabKick.

25 September 2010, 11:31	#1
portarinos Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Volos / Greece Age: 46 Posts: 137	A600 - Classic WB Help with System.Zip Which is the right version for an Amiga 600 with Roms 2.0 (37.300), CF for hard drive and 4mb extra memory? I suppose it's only GAAE or am i wrong? Lack of Roms 3.0/3.1 shouldn't permit the installation of 68k. Am i right again. Either way, since i don't have a PC in order to set up the WB package and transfer it to my A600, could someone please upload at least the System.zip file for me (68k/GAAE)? Would this be possible, pleaseeeeee!!!! Thanks in advance

16 January 2011, 22:25	#17
Eriond Happy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 101	I just got my ACA630, and I'm wondering about what version of ClassicWB I could use. Of course I want as much bells and whistles as possible now that my miggy is '030 equipped! I have been using GAAE til now, but when I read the "recommended minimum reqirements", I see that I can go all the way up to ADV edition, still having only ECS chipset. Is that correct? Although I only have 2.05 ROMs right now, I will upgrade to 3.1 soon. When we're on that subject; is 3.1 REALLY required or will it work with 2.05 as well? /Eriond Silly me. I just gave both ROM versions a go in UAE, and it came out quite clearly that I need the 3.1 ROM. Mystery solved (and verified). In UAE the ADV version booted up only with a "Software Failure" : Copper. Software failed (#80000008). After clicking "Suspend" I seem to be able to carry on... Interesting to see if this error occurs on my real A600 as well. /Eriond Last edited by TCD; 16 January 2011 at 22:27. Reason: Back to back posts merged. Use the edit function.

16 January 2011, 22:40	#18
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	I'm afraid you will need 3.0/1 ROMS. You also need to disable copper before running it on an ECS machine (top menubar->Settings->Copper->Disable), and reduce screenmode colours to 16. When you get them, you can use any of the packs. mflos used the ADVSP on his ECS accelerated machine: [ Show youtube player ] I never thought an ECS machine was good enough for Newicons - with these new accelerators, I shall update the webapge. Last edited by Bloodwych; 16 January 2011 at 22:47.

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25 September 2010, 11:59	#2
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	The GAAE version is the one that is designed for you setup although 68k does run but you may get some errors when booting and maybe at other times unless you upgrade the Rom to 3.1 Sadly we cannot upload the system.zip for you as there are workbench files that are removed for copyright reasons. I would be happy to set it up for you if you sent me your CF card. Where abouts are you ? Steve.

25 September 2010, 15:08	#3
portarinos Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Volos / Greece Age: 46 Posts: 137	Thanks for your answer Steve. I suppose, though, that uploading a system.zip file isn't illegal since i also have to use my original workbench disk during installation so.......Maybe you could PM me if that's the problem. Or i'll PM you

25 September 2010, 17:42	#4
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	the system.zip is made after activation therefore contains the files we are not allowed to distribute via the site. I'm not sure how the Classic Workbench real Amiga floppy would handle an un-activated system.zip We need bloodwych to have some input here. Steve.

25 September 2010, 18:49	#5
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Someone could just mount the ClassicWB GAAE HDF without activating it and zip it up in UAE/Dopus for another person. Then the other person can use the install disk or another utility to unpack it onto the root of the real Amiga's DH0: partition. The install disk doesn't care if it's acticvated or not - it just unpacks System.zip to DH0: and replaces the trash icon if present. When you reset the real Amiga, it will run through the install routine as normal, asking for a Workbench 2.1 disk. It has to be a Workbench 2.1 disk though, not 2.0. So have one handy on a floppy standing by.

25 September 2010, 23:01	#6
portarinos Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Volos / Greece Age: 46 Posts: 137	Thanks for your comment Bloodwych. That's exactly what i did with my 1200 setup. Someone else uploaded the system.zip for me and i only had to boot from floppy and this did the rest. Unfortunately, or should i say fortunately, i don't own a PC at home, just Mac's so no easy UAE for me. Anyway, if someone could still help me with a GAAE version of system.zip a PM would be handy enough for me to arrange the rest. Thanks goes to both of you guys (Bloodwych, Fitzsteve) for your time.

26 September 2010, 00:02	#7
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	I can do it for you in a few days if no one jumps in before (I am away at the moment) Steve.

26 September 2010, 00:46	#8
portarinos Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Volos / Greece Age: 46 Posts: 137	No prob m8. I appreciate your effort. Take care.

04 October 2010, 02:00	#9
portarinos Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Volos / Greece Age: 46 Posts: 137	Any news here Steve? Could you possibly arrange something for the poor "Amiga user-with no PC's but Mac's at home-so no WinuAE" ?

04 October 2010, 09:54	#12
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	All done - sorry for the delay

05 October 2010, 22:12	#13
portarinos Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Volos / Greece Age: 46 Posts: 137	Sorry about what? Are you serious? You are doing me a favor man! I'll download and install it on my A600 courtesy of Fitzsteve, Thanks again m8!

06 October 2010, 20:29	#15
portarinos Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Volos / Greece Age: 46 Posts: 137	Thanks for your help Stevie! I'll let you know as soon as i prepare my A600 for the new era. You see i've been waiting for Zetro's A608 (as everybody of course) while another 4mb ram board is on the way

16 January 2011, 23:02	#19
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	Hey Bloodwych, the ACA630 can re-kick a rom image so he don't need to upgarde the Rom, you can use ACATune to map a 3.1 Rom. I suggest the CWB ADV pack for the A600 and drop to 8 colours, its pretty slick. Of course the ADV SP and even the OS3.9 packs will work but they will be a little bit slow even with the ACA630. But why not try them all out and see what you think. By the way, encrypted Roms (Like Amiga forever) do not work for the remap. Steve.

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