VSync in windowed mode

andreas · 22 August 2006, 23:07

This is just for Toni's todo list, and possibly better than asking him to support MMU

Currently, WinUAE only supports VSync (badly needed for many complex scrolling routines in intros, trackmos and demos) in full-screen mode, but not in windowed mode.
It must be ages that I have last used WinUAE in full-screen mode, as WinUAE will be the "absolutist" application, taking quite awhile every time to give way for the Windows desktop again ... so windowed mode is more convenient for me.

Possibly because I'm a WinUAE "worker" and "demo runner" and only rarely would play games.

Ironclaw · 23 August 2006, 05:44

Windowed mode for me too always... never FS.

andreas · 27 August 2006, 22:23

Heh Ironclaw

well this would be a retrogamer's dream if WinUAE could display a real-size 1084 picture in windowed mode without ugly tricks like scaling & friends (which will always affect picture quality negatively), wouldn't it?

Never cease dreaming.

andreas · 08 January 2008, 11:14

Bumped. I knew I had already created this thread.

Photon · 08 January 2008, 19:54

I don't really see how waiting 2 seconds (if you have a CRT) at startup and shutdown would be in the way for anyone. You want to enjoy a perfect demo/game and still have a clutter of windows beside it so you can Alt-Tab ... while enjoying it? I don't get it. What is your workflow?

Also, you rarely used 50Hz when doing work stuff and need the desktop. I would never use Windows at 50Hz except with an LCD.

100Hz is usable for desktop work, but then anything that moves or scrolls will only move every other frame, giving a blurry motion trail.

To avoid any alt-tab delays, set the WinUAE resolution to your acceptable desktop working resolution, same bit depth.

As for sync, well, sure, if Toni can find some way of elbowing the WinUAE window to the front of the queue

so he can switch buffers at the correct time. There are usually a bunch of overlapping windows and apps running with different priorities.

For me, 800x600 @ 50Hz Fullscreen synced works very well, just press F12 or Alt-Tab and the desktop is there.

22 August 2006, 23:07	#1
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	VSync in windowed mode This is just for Toni's todo list, and possibly better than asking him to support MMU Currently, WinUAE only supports VSync (badly needed for many complex scrolling routines in intros, trackmos and demos) in full-screen mode, but not in windowed mode. It must be ages that I have last used WinUAE in full-screen mode, as WinUAE will be the "absolutist" application, taking quite awhile every time to give way for the Windows desktop again ... so windowed mode is more convenient for me. Possibly because I'm a WinUAE "worker" and "demo runner" and only rarely would play games. Last edited by andreas; 08 January 2008 at 11:16.

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08 January 2008, 19:54	#5
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,602	I don't really see how waiting 2 seconds (if you have a CRT) at startup and shutdown would be in the way for anyone. You want to enjoy a perfect demo/game and still have a clutter of windows beside it so you can Alt-Tab ... while enjoying it? I don't get it. What is your workflow? Also, you rarely used 50Hz when doing work stuff and need the desktop. I would never use Windows at 50Hz except with an LCD. 100Hz is usable for desktop work, but then anything that moves or scrolls will only move every other frame, giving a blurry motion trail. To avoid any alt-tab delays, set the WinUAE resolution to your acceptable desktop working resolution, same bit depth. As for sync, well, sure, if Toni can find some way of elbowing the WinUAE window to the front of the queue so he can switch buffers at the correct time. There are usually a bunch of overlapping windows and apps running with different priorities. For me, 800x600 @ 50Hz Fullscreen synced works very well, just press F12 or Alt-Tab and the desktop is there.

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