Chase HQ - AGA fixed by Galahad

MethodGit · 03 November 2010, 23:07

I was playing about with Galahad's HD patch for this game and wondering why no version on TOSEC works with the provided patchfile... and then it dawned on me that maybe I should be using his specific fixed release of the game, but it's not in the TOSEC to date, sooooooo.... anybody happen to have it?

Thankie!

mai · 04 November 2010, 17:50

I have an non bootable ADF with lzx archive inside.
I dont know, if this fix was made to run from floppy.

MethodGit · 04 November 2010, 18:24

Up it anyway and I'll take a look for myself.

mai · 04 November 2010, 18:29

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Originally Posted by MethodGit

Up it anyway and I'll take a look for myself.

...done.

MethodGit · 04 November 2010, 18:55

Well, so far, so good. Though after I unpack the main data file (which is crunched with Imploder) to turn it into an ADF again, the resulting image will not work under a quickstart A500 setting, guruing after 15-20 seconds of loading. Hmmm.

Wonder if Galahad could provide any more information?

mai · 04 November 2010, 18:58

My experiences are, that AGA-fixes often dont work anymore on A500.

Photon · 04 November 2010, 19:15

I think his patch is for real Amigas, it's not his job to make it work in emulators.

That said, there's sometimes the tendency (pointing into void and not at any patchmaker in particular) to make HD-fixes and WHDLoad installs of OCS games that for some reason hiccup on OCS machines. And/or OCS configs. Can you try an A1200 Quickstart config?

StingRay · 04 November 2010, 20:31

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Originally Posted by MethodGit

Though after I unpack the main data file (which is crunched with Imploder) to turn it into an ADF again, the resulting image will not work under a quickstart A500 setting, guruing after 15-20 seconds of loading.

Galahad never released ChaseHQ as a stand-alone disk version, he made the 680x0/hd fix. Thus you can't expect the disk image to work (he modified some interrupt routines and some other things) as it was never meant for that. The image works fine when used with the patch, why you want to use it in any other way is beyond me tbh.

MethodGit · 04 November 2010, 21:37

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Originally Posted by StingRay

Galahad never released ChaseHQ as a stand-alone disk version, he made the 680x0/hd fix. Thus you can't expect the disk image to work (he modified some interrupt routines and some other things) as it was never meant for that. The image works fine when used with the patch, why you want to use it in any other way is beyond me tbh.

I was just doing it out of interest, to see if it could be used both as a floppy and as an HD game. But if he only brought it out in HD form then I guess that explains it.

Galahad/FLT · 04 November 2010, 22:41

Stingray is 100% correct.

At the time I released my AGA fixes, in the file_id.diz info files, it was quite apparent what they would or would not work with.

My early stuff was AGA disk fixes, that sometimes would still work on OCS/ECS, but on some versions I did enhancements like ram load of the entire game for quicker ingame loading.

The other fixes were .lzx files with EVERYTHING you needed to run the game off hard drive.

So long as you had enough memory and reqtools.library, most of my AGA HD fixes should work with no issues on AGA Amigas.

Just because a filename in an archive is the same size as an ADF file, doesn't always equate it can still be used as an ADF, as sometimes I imaged the disk and modified it, and then used an external AmigaDOS loader to allocate memory, load the modified ADF into ram and then run. In fact I'm pretty sure I deliberately modified the image so that it couldn't be used as an ADF to precisely stop what it is you're attempting to do.

Some of my fixes did all the fix work externally of the ADF file, so with the loader code, nothing is fixed and its all a big waste of time.

Galahad/FLT · 04 November 2010, 22:49

NFO file for the release in the zone.

MethodGit · 04 November 2010, 23:47

Thanks for explaining things, Galahad.

Though come to think of it, I'm left wondering why there is an install patch over at Dr Zarkov's Domain - using your executable - that doesn't work with any disk image I've tried, yet the loader was previously only made available bundled with the game itself in a ready-to-run package?

Galahad/FLT · 05 November 2010, 00:21

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Originally Posted by MethodGit

Thanks for explaining things, Galahad.

Though come to think of it, I'm left wondering why there is an install patch over at Dr Zarkov's Domain - using your executable - that doesn't work with any disk image I've tried, yet the loader was previously only made available bundled with the game itself in a ready-to-run package?

If I remember correctly, Dr.Zarkov used WHDLoad to make unofficial slaves for my cracks, and patched my boot code to remove references to resetting the VBR.

Not all of my HD AGA fixes quit back to AmigaDOS.

From memory, Elite v2.0, Supremacy, Infestation, Ikari Warriors, maybe even Outrun, all quit back to AmigaDOS much like WHDLoad does, the rest of the HD installs I did, did not.

Galahad/FLT · 05 November 2010, 00:22

And the adf file which Mai gave you, is utterly useless without the other files in archive, namely the booter to actually load the game.

Alas I don't have it anymore, although curiously I do still have the source to the AGA Fix.

MethodGit · 05 November 2010, 00:45

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Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

And the adf file which Mai gave you, is utterly useless without the other files in archive, namely the booter to actually load the game.

Is "Chase_HQ.exe" not the booter then? That's included in the archive.

Galahad/FLT · 05 November 2010, 02:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by MethodGit

Is "Chase_HQ.exe" not the booter then? That's included in the archive.

Yes that is, but thats not whats in the zone.

MethodGit · 05 November 2010, 04:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

I have an non bootable ADF with lzx archive inside.
I dont know, if this fix was made to run from floppy.

..

03 November 2010, 23:07	#1
MethodGit Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Streets Age: 39 Posts: 2,731	Chase HQ - AGA fixed by Galahad I was playing about with Galahad's HD patch for this game and wondering why no version on TOSEC works with the provided patchfile... and then it dawned on me that maybe I should be using his specific fixed release of the game, but it's not in the TOSEC to date, sooooooo.... anybody happen to have it? Thankie!

04 November 2010, 18:58	#6
mai Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Federativnaya Respublika Germaniya Posts: 4,994	My experiences are, that AGA-fixes often dont work anymore on A500. Last edited by mai; 04 November 2010 at 19:07.

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04 November 2010, 17:50	#2
mai Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Federativnaya Respublika Germaniya Posts: 4,994	I have an non bootable ADF with lzx archive inside. I dont know, if this fix was made to run from floppy.

04 November 2010, 18:24	#3
MethodGit Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Streets Age: 39 Posts: 2,731	Up it anyway and I'll take a look for myself.

04 November 2010, 18:55	#5
MethodGit Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Streets Age: 39 Posts: 2,731	Well, so far, so good. Though after I unpack the main data file (which is crunched with Imploder) to turn it into an ADF again, the resulting image will not work under a quickstart A500 setting, guruing after 15-20 seconds of loading. Hmmm. Wonder if Galahad could provide any more information?

04 November 2010, 19:15	#7
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,604	I think his patch is for real Amigas, it's not his job to make it work in emulators. That said, there's sometimes the tendency (pointing into void and not at any patchmaker in particular) to make HD-fixes and WHDLoad installs of OCS games that for some reason hiccup on OCS machines. And/or OCS configs. Can you try an A1200 Quickstart config?

04 November 2010, 22:41	#10
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,997	Stingray is 100% correct. At the time I released my AGA fixes, in the file_id.diz info files, it was quite apparent what they would or would not work with. My early stuff was AGA disk fixes, that sometimes would still work on OCS/ECS, but on some versions I did enhancements like ram load of the entire game for quicker ingame loading. The other fixes were .lzx files with EVERYTHING you needed to run the game off hard drive. So long as you had enough memory and reqtools.library, most of my AGA HD fixes should work with no issues on AGA Amigas. Just because a filename in an archive is the same size as an ADF file, doesn't always equate it can still be used as an ADF, as sometimes I imaged the disk and modified it, and then used an external AmigaDOS loader to allocate memory, load the modified ADF into ram and then run. In fact I'm pretty sure I deliberately modified the image so that it couldn't be used as an ADF to precisely stop what it is you're attempting to do. Some of my fixes did all the fix work externally of the ADF file, so with the loader code, nothing is fixed and its all a big waste of time.

04 November 2010, 22:49	#11
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,997	NFO file for the release in the zone.

04 November 2010, 23:47	#12
MethodGit Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Streets Age: 39 Posts: 2,731	Thanks for explaining things, Galahad. Though come to think of it, I'm left wondering why there is an install patch over at Dr Zarkov's Domain - using your executable - that doesn't work with any disk image I've tried, yet the loader was previously only made available bundled with the game itself in a ready-to-run package?

05 November 2010, 00:22	#14
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,997	And the adf file which Mai gave you, is utterly useless without the other files in archive, namely the booter to actually load the game. Alas I don't have it anymore, although curiously I do still have the source to the AGA Fix.

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